Quesiton - Punk Bands
 

I hear people say Blink isn't punked.. and heard other bands arent.. my question is..

is the only reason they are not punk is because they are signed to a record lable? What defines a 'punk' band?

I don't really know. I see polls up on the Internet saying that bands like Blink 182 are punk bands, but hardcore punk people say they're not. Maybe someone here could shed some light on the subject.

It is not because they are signed or on mtv, it is what they sing about. Punk bands aren't about singing about their girlfriends dumped them, they sing about more important things, for example politics. A lot of people seem to think punks are dumb, but actually they are smarter than a lot of people. I hope this clears things up.

I forgot to mention that punk bands have more of a raw sound to them, and not so much pop. Most people who like Blink-182 don't like real punk bands because they are a lot harder and faster. If you want I will post some lyrics of good punk songs.

If most people don't like both, then i guess I am one of a select few... :)
I don't know why, but Blink's type of music is just fun.

Post some lyrics.. I would enjoy listening to em

Exactly...explained well

Ill post some, but I can't guarentee you can listen to these words :D -

ANTI-FLAG LYRICS

"One People, One Struggle"

The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.

Time to see the world as a whole!
Time to light the fire with the fuel!
That's a concience movement,
in our hearts.
Everywhere you look red white and blue
Everywhere you look they're fooling you.

Every revolutionary
was once considered an enemy
Cointel underminded the life
Of Dr. Martin Luther King
Everywhere you look red white and blue
Everywhere you look they're fooling you.

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!
One people, one struggle.

Time to see the world as a whole.
Time to light the fire with the fuel.
That's a concience movement,
in each and every one of your hearts!
Everywhere you look red white and blue
Everywhere you look they're fooling you.

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!
One people, one struggle.

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!
One people, one struggle.

The union,
Of free thinking,
Colors don't,
Mean liberty.
The union,
Of free thinking,
The union,
Of free thinking.

The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated!

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!

One people, one struggle!
Stand United, Stand Peacful!

The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The people, united, will never be defeated!

Here's one of my new favourites (The lyrics are a little off I think, but oh well):
The Separation of Church and Skate (NOFX)

Lost in a sea of combat boots, flush the bouncers with wasted youth
When did punk rock become so safe, when did the scene become a joke
The kids who used to live for beer and speed now want their fries and coke
Cursing and flipping birds are not allowed, in fact let’s keep noise levels down

Must separate the church and skate

When don’t we put pad on the kids,helmets,head gear and mouth pieces
They we could pad the floor and walls,put cameras inside bathroom stalls
We make sure only nice bands play,and we could sing my country ’tis of thee sweet land of liberty

When did punk rock become so safe
I know it wasnt duane or fletcher, who put up the barricades
Like a skate in the heart, somehow we got driven apart

I want conflict I want dissent, I want the scene to represent
Our hatred of authority, our fight against complacency
Stop singing songs about girls and love, you killed the owl you freed the dove
Confrontation and politics replaced with harmonies and shticks
When did punk rock become so tame, these ****ing bands all sound the same
We want our fights we want our thugs, we want our burns we want our drungs
Where is the violent apathy, these ****ing records are rated g

ANTI-FLAG LYRICS

"Captain Anarchy"

a-n-a-r-c-h-y... he says that for the punk rock scene he'd give his fu*king life but he's only ever paid to see a show once maybe twice instead he stands outside the halls and pan handles for beer then sneaks into the hall to deface the bathroom mirror a-n-a-r-c-h-y...his name is "captain anarchy," but only in his mind a-n-a-r-c-h-y...so punk that he's a poser and he'll be one till he dies you never saw an anarchist with such perfect hair or so many ten dollar spikes, or so much punk rock gear he said he used his welfare checks to buy his boots and plaids in reality it was all paid for by his mom and by his dad a-n-a-r-c-h-y...his name is "captain anarchy," but only in his mind a-n-a-r-c-h-y...he's anarchy incarnate but only in his (mind) you know he just can't see oi! oi! oi! it's up to you and me * * * i don't want to be * * * fighting, let's stride for...some unity!

the ultimate punk lyrics.....antiflag......
see that flag
take this match
and burn that f*cker
f*uck the flag and f*uck you (about 20 times in a row)

That song = The definition of Punk Rock... LOL, jk, it is pretty cool to listen to though .. did you get the cd with that song on it?? I did!

Anti Flag are as bad as Blink 182, lyrics wise. But they have even less credibility.

I totally disagree with that whole statement. Anti-flag tends to have somewhat of a message from what i've heard of them...Blink doesn't so much usually...the odd time, maybe, but normally not.

wow jackjeckle, you have proven yourself indefinitly an idiot. Congradulations,and how's that working for you. The day anti-flag is even with blink 182 is the day I'll admit that you know what you are talking about.

yeah, i was in a idie store and they had the limited version with the original cover, and I was like...oh sh**, got to buy it.

Wow, JackJeckel, you have proven yourself indefinately an idiot. Congratulations, and how's that working for you? The day Anti-Flag are even with Blink 182 is the day I'll admit that you know what you are talking about.

Coherence is fun, kids!

PS. Anti-Flag lick my nuts.

wow, you must be proud, you can spell outside of school. Congratulations, you'll go far in life. i hope everyone is impressed with jack's intelligence, i know i am

so what jack, what do you think are the best punk bands? i'm just curious. I really like public enemy and reagan youth. Mainly reagan youth. TSOL is good too. What about you buddy? Impress me.

Public Enemy were a rap group, last time I checked :)

Bleh, I don't listen to much punk anymore, but were I to pick my old favorites...

Anti Heros
Leftover Crack
the Adicts
The Virus
Action
Choking Victim (ska but whatever.)
Subhumans
The Clash

um... I'm more into British Oi! and whatnot over traditional American punk, but whatever.

i threw in the public enemy for you buddy, but hey, you like the choking victim, so i dislike you less now.

Choking Victim are god.

im afraid i can't argue with that

SORRY HAD TO DO IT.

nice touch thrice...point taken

...Since we all think we can spell, why don't we all correct each other's posts to make ourselves look a bit more intelligent....BTW...The day Anti-Flag are even with Blink 182 is the day I'll admit that you know what you are talking about.
It is "Is."

Anti-Flag are a pluralized group of people.

Ha Ha Thanks Mate...That was fun to say even though I am not Australian.

Nope. It is a band.Singular band at that. The members are spoken of plurally, but as a group it is Is

I like the song Captain Anarchy because it sums up Anti Flag's entire fanbase.

I like the song Stare at the Sun by Thrice because it makes me feel warm inside.

Oh wait! Thats completely irrelevent(SP) to the topic. :confused: Whoops my bad.

Hope someone got my point.

I want to join the club of corrections, so here's mine.:
Blink 182 is actually written as Blink-182.

I downloaded that song...but my version keeps fading in and out..kinda sucks...but the song sounds pretty good. It just doesnt really flow nicely...or at all.

The reason it dont flow at all is because the copywrite thing on the cd. That's why it keeps fading out and it only gives you 10 or so seconds of each song on the album. Thrice's new album is undownloadable cause the cd is protected. If you hear the song you'll realise how much it does flow.

just go buy the album and support them :)

If i find that I like a band I usually buy the CD..i just like to see if I like the band via Kazaa first..

Dude it'll be money well spent.

You'll never be able to download it cause they have it to a point where they go through a series of bits and pieces of each of the songs on the album but don't give you the whole thing unless you are really lucky. I'm not a huge fan of all the lyrics by anti-flag. "Seattle was a riot" is one of my favorite songs by them, but sometimes I just find a lot of moaning about what isn't right in the world in there songs. I could buy a Mariah Carey CD and probably get the same thing. Leftover Crack is good though Jack.

i just wanted to say that i do not understand the blink phenomenon and i don't give a crap if i make grammatical errors. LOL! Anyways, all the blink albums seem to have a feel to them, a whiny feel. A weird thing also, is that about, what, 70% of their songs is about girls, and the rest is about something stupid, like acting ***, or something. And also, it seems that with each album their ""talent" musical-wise keeps declining. LOL anyways, i had a bit of respect for them before, but remember, i used to wear diapers too (when i was a baby, just in case anyone misinterprets it LOL). ANYWAYS, uhm... yeah that's it. P.S. that was my opinion.

The last line in Captain Anarchy is:
Fighting, let's stride for... SOME UNITY!

Which is why I am part of their fanbase. It's not the fashion and the anarchist attitude that so many people crave when they hear or see Anti-Flag, its the unity. True, what the eye can see will effect opinions. But can you see ideas?