Burzum

tdoc210 · 11-22-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

This. As time has progressed, he's strayed farther away from black metal. Considering his newest material was just him plodding away on a cheap synthesizer, to poor effect, I'm really not interested.

The bands you mention are worthless and vapid. They are black metal in form of aesthetics, but in substance they're about as far as removed from black metal as one can get. Calling them black metal is like calling a lump of white sugar, with a dark chocolate coating, dark chocolate.

Better than Dimmu Borgir.

cause you have access to instruments in prison

Engine · 11-23-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tdoc210

cause you have access to instruments in prison

I read somewhere that Varg had chosen to only use synthesizers because he did not want to make any music that is rooted in rock-n-roll because that music was created by American blacks - two characteristics that he hates.
Maybe you're right though, maybe it's just that they wouldn't give him a guitar in his cell. Back during the hype I remember thinking how funny it would be if Varg came to the US to burn some churches and murder some people so that he could get a feel for prison life in the good ol' US of A. I suspect he would find it far less comfortable than the hotel room he got in Norway.

**Janszoon** · 11-23-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I read somewhere that Varg had chosen to only use synthesizers because he did not want to make any music that is rooted in rock-n-roll because that music was created by American blacks - two characteristics that he hates.

Heh. What a loser. I wonder if it bothers him that the piano was invented by an Italian.

almauro · 11-23-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I read somewhere that Varg had chosen to only use synthesizers because he did not want to make any music that is rooted in rock-n-roll because that music was created by American blacks - two characteristics that he hates.
Maybe you're right though, maybe it's just that they wouldn't give him a guitar in his cell. Back during the hype I remember thinking how funny it would be if Varg came to the US to burn some churches and murder some people so that he could get a feel for prison life in the good ol' US of A. I suspect he would find it far less comfortable than the hotel room he got in Norway.

Two good points there. There were definite cultural/ideological motivation in Burzum's work, primarily in purging any rock n roll elements from the music because the Norse viewed metal as a form if Western cultural imperialism. What makes Varg so insidious is the murder of Euronymous was completely premeditated and probably wouldn't have been carried out if Norway had the death penalty.

Axiomatic Wiki · 11-23-2009, 03:23 PM

It is a fact that he had no access to anything but a synth in prison. Not saying that he might have not used a guitar anymore if he was given one, but he wasn't, and could not have gotten one.

hip hop bunny hop · 11-24-2009, 05:43 PM

Varg made the move to cheesy synth music because the Prison, as Axiomatic points out, didn't allow guitars. Any claim that this was ideological for him trying to compensate for epic fail.

Engine · 11-24-2009, 06:11 PM

Here's an interesting quote from Varg on the topic of guitars and how his racism effects his perception of music.

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The guitar is an European invention, just like the synthesizer. However, the music played on guitar is mostly ****** music - and that goes definitely for all metal music. I have nothing against guitars, as you might know a lot of classical music is played on guitar. If I would make any more guitar music it would be classical music. So, it has nothing (or better; little) to do with the instrument in itself.

I guess I have been a bit unclear when talking about this, until now. Anyway, what I explain above should clear things up for you. I categorize music like this; Aryan music (European classical and folkmusic, as well as some other more electronic music); Alien music with Aryan lyrics (like all these Viking-metal bands, Oi-rock and the like) and; Alien music with alien lyrics. As simple as that.

Bands like 'Vidkuns Venner', 'No Remorse' and so on, are "half-way" to the right way, and I know that in our times we might need to get people on our side one step at a time. Being used to ****** music and ****** or Jew lyrics they need to become used to the lyrics first, and then they can be introduced to real Aryan music.

that's from Burzum.com: The Music of Burzum and the Writings of Varg Vikernes [ varg vikernes interview ]

hip hop bunny hop · 11-28-2009, 04:03 PM

^^^ again, it's already been pointed out that he moved away from guitars because the prison wouldn't allow him to use guitars. He pulled that bull**** about rock being "****** music" after he wasn't allowed to use guitars.

Guybrush · 11-28-2009, 04:20 PM

How do you guys know he wasn't allowed to have a guitar in prison?

I mean .. it's Norway. Not saying you're wrong, but it sounds weird that they'd let him have a synth but not a guitar.

LoathsomePete · 11-28-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

How do you guys know he wasn't allowed to have a guitar in prison?

I mean .. it's Norway. Not saying you're wrong, but it sounds weird that they'd let him have a synth but not a guitar.

Lot easier to garrote someone with a guitar string than a synth

11-23-2009, 03:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
Axiomatic Wiki Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Souvlaki Space Station Posts: 99	It is a fact that he had no access to anything but a synth in prison. Not saying that he might have not used a guitar anymore if he was given one, but he wasn't, and could not have gotten one. __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/AxiomaticWiki

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	How do you guys know he wasn't allowed to have a guitar in prison? I mean .. it's Norway. Not saying you're wrong, but it sounds weird that they'd let him have a synth but not a guitar. __________________ Something Completely Different

11-24-2009, 05:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Varg made the move to cheesy synth music because the Prison, as Axiomatic points out, didn't allow guitars. Any claim that this was ideological for him trying to compensate for epic fail.

11-28-2009, 04:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	^^^ again, it's already been pointed out that he moved away from guitars because the prison wouldn't allow him to use guitars. He pulled that bull** about rock being "**** music" after he wasn't allowed to use guitars.