Was Elvis ambitious?

Axiomatic Wiki · 11-25-2009, 10:18 PM

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Mediocre isn't really the opposite of famous at all.

I did not mean mediocre in terms of talent, but in terms of success.

Jester · 11-26-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperFob

No.

Ian MacKaye, Minor Threat era.

The Bullet · 11-27-2009, 10:51 AM

Well, if he didn't want to make a name for himself he wouldn't have signed with RCA records.

Of course he was ambitious. He wasn't a sell out if that's what you are implying, but he was ambitious.

The Bullet · 11-27-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Axiomatic Wiki

I did not mean mediocre in terms of talent, but in terms of success.

Believe it or not, playing for the love of music exists

perfect example:

Look at Izzy Stradlin man. He uploads stuff on itunes for his fans, but never tours/does interviews etc. Sure he was writing for success in his days as a Guns 'N Roses member but not at this point.

SuperFob · 11-27-2009, 03:35 PM

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Well, if he didn't want to make a name for himself he wouldn't have signed with RCA records.

So you think only ambitious people signed at RCA? What do you think Elvis would've done if he weren't ambitious?

The Bullet · 11-27-2009, 05:20 PM

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So you think only ambitious people signed at RCA? What do you think Elvis would've done if he weren't ambitious?

He would've never signed with anyone. He would've just had a local band that toured Memphis.

Axiomatic Wiki · 11-27-2009, 05:57 PM

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Believe it or not, playing for the love of music exists

My point was still missed. Of course people play for the love of music. What I was saying, is that people don't play, reach a level of mediocrity, and purposely do not allow themselves to become better. Most musicians I know ware determined to become better than they currently are, this goes for both musical talent and levels of success.

The Bullet · 11-27-2009, 06:01 PM

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My point was still missed. Of course people play for the love of music. What I was saying, is that people don't play, reach a level of mediocrity, and purposely do not allow themselves to become better. Most musicians I know ware determined to become better than they currently are, this goes for both musical talent and levels of success.

In this sense, almost no one denies Elvis is ambitious.

**Janszoon** · 11-27-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Axiomatic Wiki

I did not mean mediocre in terms of talent, but in terms of success.

Not everyone's definition of success includes being famous.

mr dave · 11-27-2009, 11:17 PM

i still don't get why it matters in the first place though.

so... someone is ambitious and wants to be famous.... not ok? they're some sort of 'corporate' sell-out?

and... someone else is not ambitious but still likes playing music... ok? more of a 'real' artiste?

or... it doesn't really make a lick of difference because the people that really determine what art is or is not are not the people who create the actual work but the random people affected and moved by it who then choose to describe said creation as 'art'?

11-27-2009, 10:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
The Bullet Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 454	Well, if he didn't want to make a name for himself he wouldn't have signed with RCA records. Of course he was ambitious. He wasn't a sell out if that's what you are implying, but he was ambitious.