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kornslayer 02-18-2005 10:57 AM

AFI i know its in the wrong catergory but....the head singer is he really G A Y
 
guys tell me is he G A Y or not if he is thats shocking to me for some odd reason.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-18-2005 11:51 AM

Nope, dont think so. Wierd question though... Youre gonna get a sh*t load of abuse from people y'know, they're gonna think you were judging him because of it. (Which im guessing youre not)

riseagainstrocks 02-18-2005 01:45 PM

metrosexual. Jade the guitarist is g ay. although I'm not davey's biggest fan, i respect his voice like woah.

TheBig3 02-18-2005 01:53 PM

You should get ****loads of abuse for it. Because no one should be judged for something if they aren't judged for the opposite. Example:

"Does anyone know if Prince is strait? I don't know man he looks pretty hetero to me...I'll bet that straity lets chicks sucks his ****. I don't know its just weird man, thoughts?"

See it sounds moronic, and so did your question.

:pimp:

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-18-2005 02:02 PM

Calm down, we dont even know if he was judging or just curious. At least give him a chance, he hasnt said anything against g.ays yet has he...

TheBig3 02-18-2005 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
Calm down, we dont even know if he was judging or just curious. At least give him a chance, he hasnt said anything against g.ays yet has he...

No he hasn't said they are inherently evil yet, but you can't just let me subgroup others or segregate them from the mass populous. In fact, doing so is one of the 8 stages of genocide, created by the UN after WWII. To seperate is to catagorize, and to catagorize is to label. I believe the document would call this classification, and allowing it is to allow it to foster.

The bottom line is, Homosexuals aren't any diffrent that anyone else, and so what does it matter if a lead singer is *** or not.

Thats my question for further argument, What does it matter?

:pimp:

Soundgardener 02-18-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Thats my question for further argument, What does it matter?

It doesnt, him being *** doesnt make him a worse or better singer....

end of discussion.

:bringit:

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-18-2005 02:45 PM

Look, I have absolutely nothing against g.ays, but I'd rather be fair and give this guy a chance, maybe he just wants to know. I dont know why he'd want to know, I cant see inside his head, but he might just be curious. If he was asking about something like Davey's home town we wouldnt have such a discussion, so why have one over this? Im sure you think that homosexuals should be treated equally, and that they're still people like us (which they obviously are) so why should you treat this question any different to any other.

There we go, Im done now.

Sneer 02-18-2005 04:16 PM

he only asked a stupid question, is a huge debate on it necessary? and nobodies even attempted in answering it.

DarkPhoenix88 02-18-2005 04:31 PM

I don't believe he is.

sleepy jack 02-18-2005 05:02 PM

Dude hes not queer i doubt that just cause he sings/dress like a girl doesnt make him queer look at alot of these emo bands know one acuses them of having a queer frontman.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-18-2005 05:03 PM

No, but everyone accuses emo kids of being queer. *Sigh* People bug me sometimes..

Sneer 02-18-2005 05:07 PM

people bug me 24/7..hell, i bug me.

TheBig3 02-18-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
No, but everyone accuses emo kids of being queer. *Sigh* People bug me sometimes..


Really it bugs you that people think emo kids are queer? Hmm, makes you wonder why they care at all, but then again its just a question...

:pimp:

Metal_Head 02-18-2005 07:42 PM

Davey isn't gay, there are many reports (if you could call em that) of girls asking him for hugs, and he didnt deny them. in fact, there's a video HE made himself called Clandestine where HE kisses a girl. yeah, if he was gay, he wouldn't put that in his own film. he is either straight, bi, or metro.

i dont know anything about Jade though.

AFI is my favorite band.

Sneer 02-19-2005 06:51 AM

ooooh a hug *shock, gasp*, a kiss??!!! that scuppers all the rumours.

riseagainstrocks 02-19-2005 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
No he hasn't said they are inherently evil yet, but you can't just let me subgroup others or segregate them from the mass populous. In fact, doing so is one of the 8 stages of genocide, created by the UN after WWII. To seperate is to catagorize, and to catagorize is to label. I believe the document would call this classification, and allowing it is to allow it to foster.


Classification is only a step in the 8 steps of Genocide if it is State sponsered. And by your reasoning than calling someone a teacher is classification and the first step to a genocide. Most g ay people are very open about it and "wear it on their sleeves". Besides homosexuals are gaining more and more political momentum. Quite unlike the Jews during the holocaust or the Tutsis during Rwanda.

hookers with machineguns 02-19-2005 08:18 AM

The fact that the word "g ay" is censored on this site should put all this into perspective.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-19-2005 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Really it bugs you that people think emo kids are queer? Hmm, makes you wonder why they care at all, but then again its just a question...

:pimp:

Yes it bugs me because they use it as an insult.

ConnradCKY32 02-19-2005 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal_Head
Davey isn't gay, there are many reports (if you could call em that) of girls asking him for hugs, and he didnt deny them. in fact, there's a video HE made himself called Clandestine where HE kisses a girl. yeah, if he was gay, he wouldn't put that in his own film. he is either straight, bi, or metro.

i dont know anything about Jade though.

AFI is my favorite band.

I dont no about AFI but your a ****ing queer!!!!!!!!

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-19-2005 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnradCKY32
I dont no about AFI but your a ****ing queer!!!!!!!!

You idiot. Everyone in here has been saying basically how its not an insult, and you just went against that completely. Well done.

ConnradCKY32 02-19-2005 05:35 PM

i think this world would be a lot better if everyone ****ing hated eatchother...o wait thats were it stands now.

jesus 02-19-2005 05:37 PM

^I know you're a moron

Soundgardener 02-19-2005 05:37 PM

:rofl:

jesus 02-19-2005 05:40 PM

woah..i meant to respond to that 'I don't know about afi but you're a ****ing queer!' thing. Didn't see the second page. oh well.

Soundgardener 02-19-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ConnradCKY32
I dont no about AFI but your a ****ing queer!!!!!!!!

I think you need to shut up you ignorant son of a bitch.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-19-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundgardener
I think you need to shut up you ignorant son of a bitch.

:beer:

TheBig3 02-19-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
Classification is only a step in the 8 steps of Genocide if it is State sponsered. And by your reasoning than calling someone a teacher is classification and the first step to a genocide. Most g ay people are very open about it and "wear it on their sleeves". Besides homosexuals are gaining more and more political momentum. Quite unlike the Jews during the holocaust or the Tutsis during Rwanda.


Rise Against would be real proud. It doesn't have to be state sponsored. The genocide that is currently occuring in Dafur is genocide but is in no way state sponsored.

Also, no calling a teacher a teacher isn't classification because its an occupation (and you clearly don't care about the issue because your just reaching with this argument). And you obviously know nothing about history because they jews had immence clout prior to the nazi party accending to power.

Please don't try to "win" this argument, because your spitting on an entire sub group of humans. Try to keep this kind of hate off the boards and try to stick with hating people because they listen to suck music.

:pimp:

jesus 02-19-2005 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundgardener
I think you need to shut up you ignorant son of a bitch.

I also say :beer:

riseagainstrocks 02-20-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Rise Against would be real proud. It doesn't have to be state sponsored. The genocide that is currently occuring in Dafur is genocide but is in no way state sponsored.

Also, no calling a teacher a teacher isn't classification because its an occupation (and you clearly don't care about the issue because your just reaching with this argument). And you obviously know nothing about history because they jews had immence clout prior to the nazi party accending to power.

Please don't try to "win" this argument, because your spitting on an entire sub group of humans. Try to keep this kind of hate off the boards and try to stick with hating people because they listen to suck music.

:pimp:

First off, I like Rise Against's non-political songs. Second off while teaching is an occupation it is also a group of people which is what your entire arguement is based off. And the you don't know your history at all. The Jews were heavily persecuted from roughly 1830 to 1870. from 1870 to the very early 1900's they had a higher standard of living than before in Western Europe. Then came WWI this took away almost all of the Jews rights because it was believed that the Jews were aiding and abieting both Allied and Central powers. In Germany following WWI when the German people were in the one of the worst post-Bismarck depressions they had ever faced. The Jews being mostly bankers and economist and doctors, took the brunt of the angry backlash. This lead to a platform of hatred put forth by the National Socialist Party (Nazi party).

I'm am appalled that you would compare what is being described as a "lack of homosexual rights" to the holocaust (marriage isn't a right but thats a different discussion). I have several *** friends and am not trying to win an arguement. I'm a merely stating that this is in no way similar to genocide.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-20-2005 01:56 PM

grrr

TheBig3 02-20-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
I'm am appalled that you would compare what is being described as a "lack of homosexual rights" to the holocaust (marriage isn't a right but thats a different discussion). I have several *** friends and am not trying to win an arguement. I'm a merely stating that this is in no way similar to genocide.

Its not Marrige that the homosexual community wants, its the right given to people under a union of marrige. Visitation rights to sick partners, joint healthcare, breaks on purchasing homes.

Regardless of any of this fact. It is a stage of genocide that if you don't shut down now, will escalate to genocide. inturnment camps, concentration camps, segregation. They were all considered a non-threat to people until they were already well rooted.

Those who don't know their history will be doomed to repeat it. Im appauled that you think having *** friends is a cop out, and im alos appauled that you'd argue on a topic you clearly have no idea about (as shown by saying "marrige isn't a right."

Quit being a fuking idiot, and you are trying to win.

:pimp:

TheBig3 02-20-2005 04:58 PM

Also I'd like to thank Kornslayer for being a jackass and bringing this up.

:pimp:

Metal_Head 02-20-2005 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jesus
I also say :beer:

how bout we all have a beer :beer: :beer: :beer:

not you CKY, you're a loser.

maryjane88 02-21-2005 03:11 PM

Huh?
 
You Guys Are Making A Big Deal Out Of Nothing All I Gotta Say That The Singer From Afi Is Smoking Hottt Grrr I Like Him So If Hes *** Thats Okay And If Hes Not Then Its Okay Too He's Still Going To Be Hott *** Or Not

riseagainstrocks 02-21-2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Its not Marrige that the homosexual community wants, its the right given to people under a union of marrige. Visitation rights to sick partners, joint healthcare, breaks on purchasing homes.

Regardless of any of this fact. It is a stage of genocide that if you don't shut down now, will escalate to genocide. inturnment camps, concentration camps, segregation. They were all considered a non-threat to people until they were already well rooted.

Those who don't know their history will be doomed to repeat it. Im appauled that you think having *** friends is a cop out, and im alos appauled that you'd argue on a topic you clearly have no idea about (as shown by saying "marrige isn't a right."

Quit being a fuking idiot, and you are trying to win.

:pimp:


I bet you love Michael Moore don't you. I am for Civil Unions but being a religious person I think that Marrige is reserved for heterosexual couples.

Prove to me where marrige is a right. I'll conced. And me stating that I have *** friends isn't a cop out. Its just stating that I am not homophobic.

TheBig3 02-21-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
I bet you love Michael Moore don't you. I am for Civil Unions but being a religious person I think that Marrige is reserved for heterosexual couples.

Prove to me where marrige is a right. I'll conced. And me stating that I have *** friends isn't a cop out. Its just stating that I am not homophobic.

1.) Where did Micheal Moore come from?

2.) no ones saying marrige is a right, but there are rights heterosexual people are alotted that homosexuals aren't, and thats wrong, plain and simple.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-21-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maryjane88
You Guys Are Making A Big Deal Out Of Nothing All I Gotta Say That The Singer From Afi Is Smoking Hottt Grrr I Like Him So If Hes *** Thats Okay And If Hes Not Then Its Okay Too He's Still Going To Be Hott *** Or Not

Yep, things tend to get blown out of proportion sometimes. But then its not really about the lead singer from AFI anymore, its about peoples views on gays and gay marriages in general. Like hookers said, the fact that the word gay is filtered on here gives you enough insight to what some people are like with it...

I have no problem with gay marriages, Id like to say. I hope that in years to come people will have accepted it alot more than they have now, it just seems an easier way to live and I cant actually see whats wrong with it.. But Im not about to argue against someone who thinks different. This isnt one of those things that can be proven right or wrong, its all upto what people think themselves.

riseagainstrocks 02-22-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
1.) Where did Micheal Moore come from?

2.) no ones saying marrige is a right, but there are rights heterosexual people are alotted that homosexuals aren't, and thats wrong, plain and simple.

1. its his highly and overly publicised view

2. I don't know about lacking rights. But visitation and tax relief I am in full support of for heterosexual and homosexual couples. But the institution of marrige I believe should be reserved.

My question is do you take back your previous comment that I "spit on an entire group of people". That was a bit outta line you think?

SlayeReyalS 02-23-2005 10:47 PM

AFI is good for that one song they wrote called Dancing Through Sunday, and their EP called All Hallows Eve. i dont like the rest.

im pretty sure Davey is bi or something. it doesnt bother me at all. the world is full of ***s. he just happens to be one. deal with it.


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