who invented punk (rock, Blink 182, quote, artists, performance)

sleepy jack · 09-26-2005, 01:52 PM

We should judge it by sound....

I mean not the actual word punk.

When did MC5 start?

Fenixpunk · 09-26-2005, 01:56 PM

but then you get the argument of what "punk sound" is and isnt...
MC5 started in '66 - first album in '68

sleepy jack · 09-26-2005, 01:57 PM

Yeah and alot of bands that 'started' punk..didnt really have punk fundamentals and style...

Well i would continue dicussiing.

But lunch is over and i need to go to school.

tdoc210 · 09-26-2005, 02:18 PM

totally if this must be done the velvet underground

sleepy jack · 09-26-2005, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

totally if this must be done the velvet underground

Personally i dont think they were really that punky..

boo boo · 09-26-2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk

Personally i dont think they were really that punky..

They were a bigger influence on alternative rock than punk, though most post punk bands were VU influenced.

sleepy jack · 09-26-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

They were a bigger influence on alternative rock than punk, though most post punk bands were VU influenced.

Yeah but if you go by who influenced it you could go like all the way to blues.

Cause ramones and clash and stuff were influenced by iggy and velvet underground who were influenced by the who and rolling stones who were influenced by etc...

i think i made this exact post somewhere else in this thread.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-26-2005, 07:15 PM

The Velvet Underground were more an influence on the art rock side of the punk movement, your Talking Heads , Television , Patti Smith types , and the British punks who went to art school (cept Lydon who hated them). If you want to get into the Velvet Underground expecting them to be an influnence on the 3 chord thrash type punk bands you are going to be very very disappointed.

tdoc210 · 09-27-2005, 06:39 AM

well obviousley they not but they also had some avant garde

Fenixpunk · 09-27-2005, 05:32 PM

i think the #1 reason this topic gets so screwed is because there are so many differant ideas of what punk is.

Is it the sound? the look? the anti-everything attitude? lower-class? working-class?

there are probably a number of bands that can take the credit depending on what one would consider the foundation of punk is.

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09-26-2005, 01:56 PM	#112 (permalink)
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tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	totally if this must be done the velvet underground __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-26-2005, 07:15 PM	#118 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The Velvet Underground were more an influence on the art rock side of the punk movement, your Talking Heads , Television , Patti Smith types , and the British punks who went to art school (cept Lydon who hated them). If you want to get into the Velvet Underground expecting them to be an influnence on the 3 chord thrash type punk bands you are going to be very very disappointed. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-27-2005, 06:39 AM	#119 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	well obviousley they not but they also had some avant garde __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-27-2005, 05:32 PM	#120 (permalink)
Fenixpunk The Erroneous Hoodlum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Side Phoenix Posts: 2,057	i think the #1 reason this topic gets so screwed is because there are so many differant ideas of what punk is. Is it the sound? the look? the anti-everything attitude? lower-class? working-class? there are probably a number of bands that can take the credit depending on what one would consider the foundation of punk is. __________________ This message has been approved by Shawn Erroneous - The Declaimed