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Urban Hat€monger ? 06-18-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1072556)

I don`t like punk but hell even I know the first proper punk group were Los Saicos from Peru who were playing punk music circa 1964!

There were thousands of garage bands putting out stuff that were just like them at the same time.
What makes them stand out so much?

Unknown Soldier 06-18-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1072816)
There were thousands of garage bands putting out stuff that were just like them at the same time.
What makes them stand out so much?

There may have been thousands of garage bands around at that time, but Los Saicos were more than likely completely unaware of these bands to be influenced by them. Their only knowledge of American and British music culture was restricted only to the very well known acts.

Furthermore, they put together a sound, image and attitude that was crude enough to be labelled punk many years later. The important aspect about this band though, is that they were presenting their sound and image in a conservative latin environment where saying stuff like "F**k off"! just wasn`t the done thing.

There are a load of links about this band on the web, below is just one.

Punk owes its origin to the Peruvian band Los Saicos | NU Intel

BigSwede 06-21-2011 10:15 AM

Black Flag. :)

Howard the Duck 06-21-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSwede (Post 1074581)
Black Flag. :)

huh? they aren't even "punk" - they're hardcore punk, that evolved from original punk

BastardofYoung 06-21-2011 07:52 PM

all branches of the same tree.

BigSwede 06-22-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1074849)
huh? they aren't even "punk" - they're hardcore punk, that evolved from original punk

Thank you for the lesson. :wave:
The second wave around 1980 is when "real" punk began in my opinion.

Unknown Soldier 06-22-2011 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSwede (Post 1074960)
Thank you for the lesson. :wave:
The second wave around 1980 is when "real" punk began in my opinion.

The thread is about who invented punk and not when you thought it was best. :wave:

BigSwede 06-22-2011 03:59 AM

And I think they invented punk.

BastardofYoung 06-22-2011 06:03 AM

Black Flag? naw... it was already established before they came out. They had an impact on Hardcore, but not punk as a whole... even in hardcore they didn't invent it anymore than Middle Class, DOA, Misfits, Bad Brains or Mentally Ill.

TockTockTock 07-01-2011 02:54 PM

Does... he seriously think that or is he kidding?


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