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METALLICA_RULES 07-08-2011 08:39 PM
Does anyone here think that Ride The Lightning is better than Master Of Puppets? I reckon it is.

Engine 07-08-2011 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by METALLICA_RULES (Post 1082456)
Does anyone here think that Ride The Lightning is better than Master Of Puppets? I reckon it is.
I've debated that myself for so long. I think I have to go with MoP but the other one is great too. I think of MoP as a slightly more evolved version of Ride the Lightning. I also love Kill 'em All. To me, RtL is the transition b/w that album and MoP - leaning towards the "maturity" of MoP. But let's not forget about Kill 'em All. It's a great album. If Metallica stayed that raw they may have rivaled Slayer in the later years.

METALLICA_RULES 07-08-2011 08:52 PM
yeah Kill Em All is great. You can't beat Seek And Destroy and Metal Militia.

Insane Guest 07-08-2011 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by METALLICA_RULES (Post 1082456)
Does anyone here think that Ride The Lightning is better than Master Of Puppets? I reckon it is.
I think Ride the Lightning is by far their best album, yes even better than Kill Em' All, it's a badass album but it doesn't pump me up like RTL does.

Janszoon 07-08-2011 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1082458)
I've debated that myself for so long. I think I have to go with MoP but the other one is great too. I think of MoP as a slightly more evolved version of Ride the Lightning. I also love Kill 'em All. To me, RtL is the transition b/w that album and MoP - leaning towards the "maturity" of MoP. But let's not forget about Kill 'em All. It's a great album. If Metallica stayed that raw they may have rivaled Slayer in the later years.
I totally agree with MoP being a more evolved version of RtL. I've always thought of the to of them as very much having the same template. KEA I have to admit has never done it for me though. I think it's mostly the guitar playing that I don't like about it, though the pre-pubescent sounding vocals are kind of a turn-off too.

Metal Connoisseur 07-09-2011 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1082446)
As for comparison, let's look at Kerry King. I won't say he's a "better" guitarist than Hammett but, to me, he makes Slayer a more interesting band than Metallica. His lead work is just insane. His solos are pure emotion and usually have nothing to do with the song structure. He just goes wild and plays chaotic nonsense that nobody could teach. It's just another reason I like Slayer better.
You hit the nail on the head in describing King. This may sound cliche to reference "Raining Blood" but if anyone has actually taken the the time to look at the tabs for the little bridge or whatever he does at about 1:10 they'd know that it's ridiculous. Not necessarily finger placement or anything like that but just blinding speed.

Unknown Soldier 07-09-2011 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur (Post 1082650)
You hit the nail on the head in describing King. This may sound cliche to reference "Raining Blood" but if anyone has actually taken the the time to look at the tabs for the little bridge or whatever he does at about 1:10 they'd know that it's ridiculous. Not necessarily finger placement or anything like that but just blinding speed.
What do you think of Jeff Hanneman?

Necromancer 07-09-2011 03:46 PM
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Not necessarily finger placement or anything like that but just blinding speed.
Blinding speed is nothing more than "fretted out noise wanking" without the application of correct finger placement. Not being sarcastic, just suggesting.:)

Metal Connoisseur 07-09-2011 04:59 PM
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Blinding speed is nothing more than "fretted out noise wanking" without the application of correct finger placement. Not being sarcastic, just suggesting.:)
I was just talking about that particular moment in raining blood, the challenging part isn't anything other than playing it as fast as kerry does. All the notes are on the top string, it's just super hard to play it that fast. That's all I'm saying.

jackhammer 07-09-2011 07:07 PM
I think many people forget that Hanneman is the main writer of Slayer's music and he doesn't get the attention he deserves.

I will say though that I dislike virtually all of Slayer's solo's. They fit the music brilliantly but they are the weakest part of their sound.


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