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dave1991 06-28-2010 01:37 PM

5 albums for a rock newbie
 
Hey ive only just started to get in into rock music recently being a life long underground hip hop fan (say what you like i dont give a f*ck) and so far ive heard bands like Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, Seether (Seron Gas) and Three Days Grace but i dont really know where else to look i order to broaden my horizons so to speak. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

RVCA 06-28-2010 01:54 PM

Might I suggest:

http://cirrostratusblog.files.wordpr.../sftdqotsa.jpg

from wikipedia:
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Queens of the Stone Age is an American rock band from Palm Desert, California, United States, formed in 1997. Originally formed under the name Gamma Ray by guitarist Josh Homme, following the breakup of his previous band, Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age developed a style of riff-oriented, heavy music which has been described by Homme as 'robot rock,' saying that he "wanted to create a heavy sound based on a solid jam, and just pound it into your head." Their sound has since evolved to incorporate a variety of different styles and influences.
One of my favorite bands. The album as a whole is excellent, but some of my favorite songs are Song for the Deaf, Millionaire, God Is In the Radio, and No One Knows.

James 06-28-2010 01:59 PM

The Velvet Underground
The Doors
Live At Leeds
Disraeli Gears
Diesel And Dust

Violent & Funky 06-28-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 891623)
The Velvet Underground
The Doors
Live At Leeds
Disraeli Gears
Diesel And Dust

Get real, man. Did you even read his post?

I suggest these:

Faith No More - Angel Dust (1992)

http://evolkweenthemusical.files.wor...eangeldust.jpg

Tool - Aenima (1996)

http://mimg.ugo.com/200808/16538/Aenima.jpg

Dom 06-29-2010 05:54 AM

Rock is a very broad genre so it's hard to tell what you're looking for, but I would suggest starting with some more mainstream stuff such as Foo Fighters' Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace and Red Hot Chilli Peppers' By The Way. Going a bit more heavy System of a Down's album Mezmerize is good and for a bit of prog I'd go for some Rush but I'm not too familiar with their discography so I couldn't really suggest an individual album. Those bands should give you quite a wide variety.

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom (Post 891983)
Rock is a very broad genre so it's hard to tell what you're looking for, but I would suggest starting with some more mainstream stuff such as Foo Fighters' Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace and Red Hot Chilli Peppers' By The Way. Going a bit more heavy System of a Down's album Mezmerize is good and for a bit of prog I'd go for some Rush but I'm not too familiar with their discography so I couldn't really suggest an individual album. Those bands should give you quite a wide variety.

The Poster that started the thread has asked an almost impossible question here, its like suggesting where to find that needle in the haystack!

James 06-29-2010 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 891789)
Get real, man. Did you even read his post?

I suggest these:

Faith No More - Angel Dust (1992)

http://evolkweenthemusical.files.wor...eangeldust.jpg

Tool - Aenima (1996)

http://mimg.ugo.com/200808/16538/Aenima.jpg

So, if he doesn't like them he's doomed and should just give up on rock music.

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 891986)
So, if he doesn't like them he's doomed and should just give up on rock music.

Not necessarily, if I was thrown in with The Doors I wouldn't have liked rock music. I think you need to start with more cliché rock music. Guns N Roses and shit like that. That's what I did anyway. GNR, AC/DC.. and then just grew out of it and searched for something more interesting. To get into rock n roll, you need something more straight forward.

OctaneHugo 06-29-2010 08:02 AM

The Doors are awful and so are all of you. Give him accessible stuff that will show him genres, not Queens of the fuc‎king Stone Age.

http://imgur.com/7QwZY.jpg
Tommy
This will teach OP if he likes rock operas.

http://imgur.com/yHJgn.jpg
In the Court of the Crimson King
This will teach OP if he likes prog (just ignore the 9 minutes of wankery on "Moonchild").

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 08:03 AM

Give him accessible stuff.... So you give him King Crimson.

The Bullet 06-29-2010 08:47 AM

rock is... my god, you need to understand how varied rock is. It's like... God...

"Hey guys, I'm from Mars and I've never head music from Earth, where should I start?"

Anyways, looking at the bands you're into, you might like something of the heavier persuasion, with an alternative vibe. There a few bands that pop into my head.

Muse



Knights of Cydonia- off their album Black Holes and Revalations

Metallica

- One off of ...And Justice For All
- Ride the Lightning off of the album of that name

and Nirvana (especially considering they were one of the founders of Grunge- which I've seen Rage Against the Machine and Three Days Grace classified as).
- Smells Like Teen Spirit off of Nevermind. Fuck, you've heard this whether you know it or not.

- Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam from MTV Unplugged in New York

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I think you need to start with more cliché rock music. Guns N Rosesand **** like that.
Guns 'N Roses isn't **** to say the least.


- Estranged off of Use Your Illusion II

- Sweet Child 'O Mine off of Appetite For Destruction

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That's what I did anyway. GNR, AC/DC..
AC/DC is crap... some of the time. They do have some great songs, though. I have two albums, and I'm gonna post my favorite song from each one, contrary to the "signiture song with hidden gem" formula I've done for almost every other band I've listed here.

- Ride On from Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
- Shoot to Thrill from Back in Black

@the original post (not just half to the original post and half to the cunning stunt)

There are some albums that you're not gonna be able to avoid no matter WHAT type of rock you like. Atleast, for the music lover. Off of the top of my head
http://www.amiright.com/album-covers...xperienced.jpg

that's all for now, I've been working on this post for... a long time.

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 892003)
Give him accessible stuff.... So you give him King Crimson.

It is laughable isn`t it:rofl: Also, Tommy is hardly accessible for a newbie either.......a late 60`s rock opera!!!

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bullet (Post 892008)
rock is... my god, you need to understand how varied rock is. It's like... God...

"Hey guys, I'm from Mars and I've never head music from Earth, where should I start?"

Anyways, looking at the bands you're into, you might like something of the heavier persuasion, with an alternative vibe. There a few bands that pop into my head.

Muse



Knights of Cydonia- off their album Black Holes and Revalations

Metallica

- One off of ...And Justice For All
- Ride the Lightning off of the album of that name

and Nirvana (especially considering they were one of the founders of Grunge- which I've seen Rage Against the Machine and Three Days Grace classified as).
- Smells Like Teen Spirit off of Nevermind. Fuck, you've heard this whether you know it or not.

- Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam from MTV Unplugged in New York



Guns 'N Roses isn't **** to say the least.


- Estranged off of Use Your Illusion II

- Sweet Child 'O Mine off of Appetite For Destruction



AC/DC is crap... some of the time. They do have some great songs, though. I have two albums, and I'm gonna post my favorite song from each one, contrary to the "signiture song with hidden gem" formula I've done for almost every other band I've listed here.

- Ride On from Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
- Shoot to Thrill from Back in Black

@the original post (not just half to the original post and half to the cunning stunt)

There are some albums that you're not gonna be able to avoid no matter WHAT type of rock you like. Atleast, for the music lover. Off of the top of my head
http://www.amiright.com/album-covers...xperienced.jpg

that's all for now, I've been working on this post for... a long time.

Some good varied choices there and very accessible with the exception of the Hendrix album, most peoples appreciation of Hendrix only really comes once they are really into rock music.

For something older look no further than Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin or Aerosmith etc

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 892015)
It is laughable isn`t it:rofl: Also, Tommy is hardly accessible for a newbie either.......a late 60`s rock opera!!!

Bizarre choices. He said they'd give a newbie an insight into genre, it'd put a rock newbie off Progressive rock and 'classic rock' right from the get go. The Bullet's choices are more accessible, except for Hendrix like you said.

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 09:22 AM

1) AC/DC - Highway To Hell
2) Led Zeppelin - Ledzeppelin IV
3) Nirvana - Nevermind
4) Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
5) Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley

Would be my first 5 to go for.

EDIT: Instead of Kyuss, I'd go for The White Stripes - White Blood Cells.

The Bullet 06-29-2010 09:26 AM

And, Dave1991, it might help if you listed some of the "underground hip-hop" stuff you're into?

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 10:04 AM

(Classic Era stuff)
Led Zeppelin- Any of the first 4 albums
Deep Purple- Machine Head
Black Sabbath- Master of Reality
Aerosmith- Toys in the Attic
Fleetwood Mac-Rumours

(Post 90`s)
Nirvana- Nevermind
Soundgarden- Badmotorfinger
QOSA- Rated R
Strokes- Is This It
White Stripes- White Blood Cells

All of these albums are highly accessible without being too basic either. All are brief highlights of the rock genre stretching from metal, hard rock, grunge, indie and melodic rock and all are considered amongst the finest works of the said bands.

Violent & Funky 06-29-2010 11:56 AM

Great post by The Bullet.

OctaneHugo you are an idiot. And you took a shot at Queens of the Stone Age... :nono:

Violent & Funky 06-29-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 891986)
So, if he doesn't like them he's doomed and should just give up on rock music.

I haven't listened to any of those...

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 892080)
I haven't listen to any of those...

wat? :yikes:

Violent & Funky 06-29-2010 11:59 AM

I don't even know what the last two are. Are those bands or albums?

TheCunningStunt 06-29-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 892082)
I don't even know what the last two are. Are those bands or albums?

Disraeli Gears?! By Cream..

Violent & Funky 06-29-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 892083)
Disraeli Gears?! By Cream..

Classic Rock isn't really my thing. I'm sure I'll hear them before I die...

Goblin Tears 06-29-2010 12:50 PM

Some recommendations;

Counting Crows - August And Everything After

The White Stripes - White Blood Cells

The Cure - Disintegration

The Pixies - Doolittle

Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run

All of these are fairly accessible. You've probably even heard a lot of songs from those albums without knowing it already...

Sljslj 06-29-2010 02:41 PM

I'll give you a band, album, and recommend two tracks for you from each one.
Some of these have probably already been mentioned but...

AC/DC - Back In Black - "You Shook Me All Night Long" and "Shoot To Thrill"

Black Sabbath - Paranoid - "Paranoid" and "Electric Funeral"

Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction - "Nightrain" and "Paradise City"

Korn - Untouchables - "Thoughtless" and "Here To Stay"

Godsmack - Faceless - "I ****ing Hate You" and "Make Me Believe"

That'll give you a pretty wide variety to start from, without getting into the real heavy stuff. Good luck!

Alex/ 06-29-2010 03:04 PM

Superunknown - Soundgarden
Ten - Pearl Jam
Led Zeppelin I - Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin II - Led Zeppelin
Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine

Can't really go wrong here.

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sljslj (Post 892118)
I'll give you a band, album, and recommend two tracks for you from each one.
Some of these have probably already been mentioned but...

AC/DC - Back In Black - "You Shook Me All Night Long" and "Shoot To Thrill"

Black Sabbath - Paranoid - "Paranoid" and "Electric Funeral"

Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction - "Nightrain" and "Paradise City"

Korn - Untouchables - "Thoughtless" and "Here To Stay"

Godsmack - Faceless - "I ****ing Hate You" and "Make Me Believe"

That'll give you a pretty wide variety to start from, without getting into the real heavy stuff. Good luck!

Good choices....but Godsmack!!! The idea is to impress the listener and not put him off with mediocrity.

Sljslj 06-29-2010 03:15 PM

I thought he'd like them cause he said he liked Three Days Grace and Seether.
Also, Godsmack may suck overall, but Faceless is a very good album.

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 892131)
Superunknown - Soundgarden
Ten - Pearl Jam
Led Zeppelin I - Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin II - Led Zeppelin
Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine

Can't really go wrong here.

I actually prefer Superunknown to Badmotorfinger but Badmotorfinger is more acessible.

Good call on Ten one of the most polished rock albums of early 90`s

Alex/ 06-29-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 892147)
I actually prefer Superunknown to Badmotorfinger but Badmotorfinger is more acessible.

Badmotorfinger is a bit more raw sounding, and has the more ridiculous screams and such. I dunno, I'd say Superunknown is easier to get into.

Unknown Soldier 06-29-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 892168)
Badmotorfinger is a bit more raw sounding, and has the more ridiculous screams and such. I dunno, I'd say Superunknown is easier to get into.

Superunknown is nearly 20 mins longer and clocks in around 70 mins a long listen for a newbie!!! Also Badmotorfinger has more obvious sounding singles whereas Superunknown far less so.

Alex/ 06-29-2010 04:29 PM

Badmotorfinger has "Outshined", yeah. But Superunknown has "Black Hole sun", "Fell On Black Days", "Spoonman", and "The Day I Tried to Live".

As far as singles go, I mean.

mr dave 06-29-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dave1991 (Post 891591)
Hey ive only just started to get in into rock music recently being a life long underground hip hop fan (say what you like i dont give a f*ck) and so far ive heard bands like Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, Seether (Seron Gas) and Three Days Grace but i dont really know where else to look i order to broaden my horizons so to speak. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

so... unlike the majority of people here just busting out their favourites - seems to me you're digging slightly older rock with a bit of a message, and a funky groove, with a hint of mainstream sensibilities. not a bad thing.

i'll most definitely second FAITH NO MORE - ANGEL DUST - absolutely 100% awesome. ****lobber is an epic track.

you'll probably also enjoy old Red Hot Chili Peppers, particularly the Mother's Milk album.

same with the self-titled Mr. Bungle debut as well as 'Nothing's Shocking' by Jane's Addiction and 'Around the Fur' by the Deftones.

Jedey 06-29-2010 07:57 PM

Elvis Presley ~ The Sun Sessions
The Beatles ~ Rubber Soul
The Who ~ Who's Next
R.E.M. ~ Murmur
Son Volt ~ Trace

Unknown Soldier 06-30-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 892185)
Badmotorfinger has "Outshined", yeah. But Superunknown has "Black Hole sun", "Fell On Black Days", "Spoonman", and "The Day I Tried to Live".

As far as singles go, I mean.

Also "Jesus Christ Pose" and "Rusty Cage"

Alex/ 06-30-2010 03:06 AM

"Jesus Christ Pose" is like one of the heavier songs I've ever heard (Listen to the man wail), and "Rusty Cage" isn't exactly very accessible for the average radio listener.

I'm not knocking Badmotorfinger, I like the album a lot, but it's hardly more accessible and listener friendly than Superunknown.

Unknown Soldier 06-30-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 892392)
"Jesus Christ Pose" is like one of the heavier songs I've ever heard (Listen to the man wail), and "Rusty Cage" isn't exactly very accessible for the average radio listener.

I'm not knocking Badmotorfinger, I like the album a lot, but it's hardly more accessible and listener friendly than Superunknown.

We`ll have to agree to disagree then. Best alternative is for the thread poster to just listen to both.

Alex/ 06-30-2010 03:56 AM

They're both classics, yeah. Get both of them.

The Bullet 06-30-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sljslj (Post 892118)
Black Sabbath - Paranoid - "Paranoid" and "Electric Funeral"

...Hand of Doom?

proto-punk 06-30-2010 01:02 PM

queens of the stone age- songs for the deaf

black sabbath- paranoid

the who- live at leeds

soundgarden- superunknown

system of a down - system of a down


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