Black Metal!

Tsunami · 10-28-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I mean that they invented the whole style that the Norwegian bands used, not black metal in general. I mean that if Bathory hadn't developed black metal as they did, black metal may have just stayed an uglier version of thrash metal and may have died out when death metal came along.

What album(s) are we discussing about then?

hip hop bunny hop · 10-30-2011, 07:16 PM

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I mean that they invented the whole style that the Norwegian bands used, not black metal in general. I mean that if Bathory hadn't developed black metal as they did, black metal may have just stayed an uglier version of thrash metal and may have died out when death metal came along.

Bathory, especially the first album, are central and amazing; but I don't get this worship over Norwegian black metal. The 2nd generation, in particular, had as it's major contribution to the genre a series of idiotic, headline grabbing actions. Even if we don't debate the quality of some of these bands, look at what followed - a horde of me-too bands.

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We might have a mildly popular sub-genre of thrash metal that was influenced more by Sarco***o than by Metallica. But without such ground breaking and genre defying bands as Bathory and Celtic Frost, I see no reason to believe that black metal would necessarily have evolved to the uber genre it is now.

It may not have become as popular, but there's no shortage of bands that are tapping anything but the Norwegian vein - Midnight, Black Witchery, Barbatos, Conqueror, Revenge, Angelcorpse, etc. You know, bands that recognize punk/grindcore roots of black metal.

Unknown Soldier · 11-10-2011, 07:57 AM

Finally got around to listening to a Dimmu Borgir album their third Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, whats the opinion on this band as I know they appeal to people who listen to COF (who really are bad)

I don`t really dig any type of symphonic metal, but thought the Dimmu Borgir album pretty good for a symphonic black metal album, not as good as the Therion album Theli though which I was listening to recently, which was symphonic but not symphonic black metal.

Howard the Duck · 11-10-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Finally got around to listening to a Dimmu Borgir album their third Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, whats the opinion on this band as I know they appeal to people who listen to COF (who really are bad)

I don`t really dig any type of symphonic metal, but thought the Dimmu Borgir album pretty good for a symphonic black metal album, not as good as the Therion album Theli though which I was listening to recently, which was symphonic but not symphonic black metal.

i don't like Dimmo Burger much, it sounds rather bland to me

i also don't really like Therion, until they adopted a more easier-listening sound

the only symphonic black metal which I think is great is still Emperor

The Batlord · 11-12-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i don't like Dimmo Burger much, it sounds rather bland to me

i also don't really like Therion, until they adopted a more easier-listening sound

the only symphonic black metal which I think is great is still Emperor

See, I don't even really like early Emperor all that much. It's cool, but nothing that get's my mojo going. Their last two albums were sexy as **** though.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 11-11-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Finally got around to listening to a Dimmu Borgir album their third Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, whats the opinion on this band as I know they appeal to people who listen to COF (who really are bad)

I don`t really dig any type of symphonic metal, but thought the Dimmu Borgir album pretty good for a symphonic black metal album, not as good as the Therion album Theli though which I was listening to recently, which was symphonic but not symphonic black metal.

I have only heard their most recent few albums and I enjoy them quite a bit.

slatesphanboi · 01-14-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Bathory, especially the first album, are central and amazing; but I don't get this worship over Norwegian black metal. The 2nd generation, in particular, had as it's major contribution to the genre a series of idiotic, headline grabbing actions.

The dudes in Darkthrone didn't partake in any Direct Action and in my mind are in fact the logical continuation of Bathorys 'black metal phase' more then a lot of the other True Norwegian Black Metal bands.

Euronymous was experimenting alot with his guitar so it sounded a lot different from Quorthons. Varg was screaming more then Quorthon too. Only Darkthone remained totally on track with Bathory's original trajectory.

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Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	Finally got around to listening to a Dimmu Borgir album their third Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, whats the opinion on this band as I know they appeal to people who listen to COF (who really are bad) I don`t really dig any type of symphonic metal, but thought the Dimmu Borgir album pretty good for a symphonic black metal album, not as good as the Therion album Theli though which I was listening to recently, which was symphonic but not symphonic black metal.