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jackhammer 07-30-2011 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1090650)
I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference.
Yes it probably alienated most or if not all of their hardcore following but it was also their first album that had any real mainstream rock exposure on things like MTV. I would have thought all that exposure would have cancelled out most of the loss of their original fanbase.

It was the first Celtic Frost album I ever bought.
You are still not forgiven for this aberration.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-30-2011 06:51 PM
I wasn't old enough to earn my own money when Into the Pandemonium came out.

That's my excuse

jackhammer 07-30-2011 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1090652)
I wasn't old enough to earn my own money when Into the Pandemonium came out.

That's my excuse
I was only 15 ya cheeky MF! I just happened to know a few people casually at that time (Shane Embury/Napalm Death) that pointed me in other directions.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-30-2011 07:05 PM
No what I mean was when I was earning my own money I'd heard of the band but knew little about them so I just bought the most recent album, which at the time was Cold Lake unfortunately.

jackhammer 07-30-2011 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1090659)
No what I mean was when I was earning my own money I'd heard of the band but knew little about them so I just bought the most recent album, which at the time was Cold Lake unfortunately.
I only played that thing once. How you can go from Into The Crypt Of Rays to Glam is sacrilege.

BTW missed you being mod ;)

Engine 07-30-2011 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1090650)
I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference.
Yes it probably alienated most or if not all of their hardcore following but it was also their first album that had any real mainstream rock exposure on things like MTV. I would have thought all that exposure would have cancelled out most of the loss of their original fanbase.

It was the first Celtic Frost album I ever bought.
So you think the amount of people that liked the album, and liked the band for the first time after Cold Lake was released is about equal to the amount of hardcore fans lost by it? Interesting. You may be right. I still wonder about the raw data though.

It was also my first Celtic Frost experience. I guess I liked it but it confused me. They didn't sound much like Ratt and such, but looked the same. I somehow felt more comfortable after I heard their early stuff.

hip hop bunny hop 07-30-2011 10:51 PM
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Whyzzat?
Sepultura always get poo-poo'd by people I hang out with. Granted, most people I know who are into extreme metal are crust punks; yet, still, the band doesn't seem to get much love. When I do find people who love Sepultura, it's generally in preference for their later, nu-metal material.

Metal Connoisseur 07-31-2011 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1090730)
Sepultura always get poo-poo'd by people I hang out with. Granted, most people I know who are into extreme metal are crust punks; yet, still, the band doesn't seem to get much love. When I do find people who love Sepultura, it's generally in preference for their later, nu-metal material.
Later material as in post-Max or post-Arise?

Unknown Soldier 07-31-2011 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur (Post 1090774)
Later material as in post-Max or post-Arise?
None of their stuff could be described as Nu metal, the only stuff that is heavily influenced by Nu metal are the first three Soulfly albums.

Metal Connoisseur 07-31-2011 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1090777)
None of their stuff could be described as Nu metal, they only stuff that is heavily influenced by Nu metal are the first three Soulfly albums.
That's what I was thinking. But I could see how Derrick Green-era Sepultura's alt metal sound could be taken as nu-metal, the line between the two sub-genres can be hazy at times


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