Why do people hate Creed so much?
 

It's not that I'm religious, or that I listen to them all the time, but I'm really curious to figure out why people hate Creed so much. Why is that?
There not noticably bad, the have good talent, there songs can be decent, so why is it that when I play them on the radio someone always starts to hate?

Because Scott Stapp.

I would answer the thread, but why would being religious have anything to do with it?

When I was 10 or so, Creed came out and their song "Higher" played in the trailer for some cartoon movie Titan AE and I liked it... hell, it was only 30 seconds. And then I got older. The end.

Scott Stapp is a tool.

They're considered a christian rock band.

Nobody hates them, it's 2012 not 2004.

They were consigned to the dustbin of history long long ago.

I actively hate them. In fact I attack their music in YouTube comment sections.

I dislike them because they are noticeably bad and I find their songs horribly bland.

Turn on the radio and you'll quickly find out that, unfortunately, Creed and all it's post grunge brethren are still very much alive. Better yet, don't turn it on, just take my word for it.

From what I've gathered, even the Christian rock diehards who did love them turned on them because of Scott Stapp.

There was an incident on a boat or something where he got a blowjob from a groupie. With Kid Rock present, no less. :laughing:

Are you sure it isn't this boat related incident?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...wBqcQA&cad=rja

yup

I always see Creed as one of those popular mainstream American bands that nobody gives the slightest toss about this side of the pond, along with bands like Theory Of A Deadman and 3 Doors Down. It's like their music sinks somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic, perhaps deservingly so. I don't hate them with a passion, I just couldn't give the slightest fuck about them.

Kid Rock is Scott Stapp's groupie?

I don't exactly understand the appeal to be honest.
Allow my to illustrate with a video - I can't print the lyrics I'm afraid.

Why do people hate nickleback? Because their songs are bland, as someone already stated, and theyre just flat out ****ty. Same applied for creed. Their songs are just really cheesy.

I once got a blow Job on a boat from kid rock.

Bet it sucked. You can tell by the way he holds the Mic.

I once gave Kid Rock a blowjob, he was rubbish.

Same here. I don't think I have ever heard a track by them TBH.

.....Pearl Jam after 1993

Kerrang tv used to play the odd Creed video ten years ago or so but I doubt they do these days. They're nothing worth nothing,

In terms of music, yeah maybe. But Pearl Jam still managed to sell out an arena here in about 15 minutes a couple of years ago, Creed probably wouldn't be able to fill a local pub here if they were still together.

They were pretty huge in England at least around the time "My Sacrifice" came out.

Alot of folks dislike them because they feel Scott Stapp is ripping off Eddie Vedders vocal style.

Also as other posters have noted just alot of folks don't like Scott Stapp because of various past incidents.

Myself I kind of like Creed. Their guitarist is pretty good and Stapp doesn't annoy me as a singer (the first thing that will turn me off to a band is a vocalist I dislike/ find annoying)

i actually quite like "My Sacrifice"

i sing along to it whenever it's on the radio

i like it much better than any Pearl Jam song, tbh

Magnificent

I don't like Creed at all. My first reaction was to answer "because they suck", but that's kind of a juvenile response. They don't 'suck', but I think they're uber-cheesy. Scott Stapp's voice irritates me, and I think he's a bit of a tool. The guitar work and the rest of the band seems proficient enough. Just not my cup of tea, I guess. I enforce a zero Creed policy where I work; there's none on my iPod and would prefer if there were none on yours either.

Chalk it up to Scott Stapp's general douchebaggery.

Indeed!

I like that. I do. Can I apply for work wherever you are? :bowdown:

No but really, that sounds like something I'd see on Craigslist personals. Brings a smile to my face.

Over-produced self-important big sounds with Scott Stapp's voice making it all the more painful. Generic booming Drumming, guitar playing that has technique but no Soul, and lyrics that are the usual crap no matter what page of the religious book they're on. Professional sounding plodding. That's about it.

I like to make fun of their style.

Thanks guys for the input. The above makes a lot of sense, as well as the rest.
Personally i think they're ok. They're not my favorite, but they have a time and a place. appreciate the input one again. I think that answered it.

About 30 percent of you have a reason, and the other 60 either don't know/don't care, or just blatantly hate for no reason.

Thanks Exoskeletal, that does make sense; he's an a-hole.

"Higher" came on the radio the other day and i have to admit i enjoyed it

I think the hate for bands like Creed and Nickelback actually touches onto some of the same ideas that came up in the 'bad taste' thread.

Essentially the groups are insincere and it comes across rather clearly to most listeners.

Creed was preachy to a fault, that's why the majority of people disliked them. Couple that with Scott Stapp's hypocritical behaviour and outlandish claims about the band (I believe the line was similar to - We made people forget about Led Zeppelin with our 1st album, now we're going to make them forget about The Doors with our 2nd).

Nickelback is even worse. Chad Kroger has flat out acknowledged that the band exists to churn out hits and to make a profit. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting commercial success but to put it first and foremost, it completely decays any sort of creative integrity within their art.

It's one of those situations where the listener needs to be able to recognize unspoken communication, like reading body language. It's clear to passionate listeners that the musicians in these groups are simply working a job and collecting a paycheck while trying to convince listeners that they honestly care. They're the musical equivalent to an emotionally abusive Ex- who'll make you feel guilty for doing what they asked.

my main problem with Creed is that they were trying to appeal to too huge a cross-section, to the extent of putting pseudo-Christianity in their lyrics

my main problem with Nickelback is that after their initial few singles, all their songs sound the same

Actually, while it's no surprise, there was another band called Creed that was from the South in the 70's. They had an album on Asylum back in 1978 which was not bad (The singer was into playing the Arp Synth just to give you a hint of what the other band sounded like), but now all of their reunions are under the name Southern Creed as to not to be confused with the better-known band in discussion here.

I personally enjoy creed a little bit.

I like Creed, it's just while they were big, they were over played on the radio which killed them. It seemed every other song on the radio then was a Creed song, so my assumption is that people just got sick of hearing them.

yeah like yall said already there songs are just bland not innovative and not catchy at all radio rock has i call it and that sort of music cant keep my attention

That's kind of a funny way to differentiate themselves since the other Creed is also from the south.

OK, confession time. I used to like Creed. It was the end of the 90's, and for most of the 90's radio was dead to me after Kurt Cobain took a shotgun to himself. I got big time in to rock with the metal boom in the late 80s and again with Grunge, and then Cobain died... Soundgarden split up, Layne Stayley went AWOL, Pearl Jam were basically in exile because they were fighting Ticketmaster... even other rock was suffering. Faith No More kicked out their metal dude (Jim Martin), Living Colour split up. Jane's Addiction split up. All you had were Rage against the Machine, Stone Temple Pilots, Tool and Live to survive the entire 90's. It was a tough time.

So I had been missing rock, and in the same way sailors mistake manatees for mermaids, you hear this band with something that sounds like a rock guitar and a guy whose trying to sound like a either Eddie Vedder or Jim Morrison, you go... OK, maybe rock is back.

And in their defense, Tremoti is a kick-ass guitarist - witness Alter Bridge, and occasionally, in, say, a song like Higher, they let his create a rift that could have been a great rock rift.

But again, it's Scott Stapp, and I'm not someone turned off by religion (I have POD and Evanescence in my CD collection), but at the time I didn't have a TV and a friend of mine nudged me about the band when he found out I listened to them.

"Watch them on TV, you'll see what I mean".

And he was right. The moment Scott Stapp did a "Jesus Christ" pose you get the whole thing right there. Over the top posing... self-important looks... videos that make him look like a saint for turning down groupies... yeah, what a bag.