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Trollheart 09-01-2012 10:53 AM

Worst/most comical/most embarrassing metal band
 
Come on, we all love our metal, but none of us can deny that there have been bands out there who have just made us either laugh or cringe, either at how bad they are or at their over-the-top attitude. What band makes you almost embarrassed to be a metal fan, would be the LAST band you would want a non-fan to point to as what's wrong with the genre?

For me, there is only one...
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...mlTKNvqXkie-Jv

Their "crusade" in the eighties to "destroy false metal" had all the hallmarks of a clever promotional tool and a way to hook or sucker in naive metal kids. Their music is ok, don't get me wrong: I have some of their albums. But it's nothing amazing, and the image and attitude they displayed just made me cringe as a metal fan, and want to say this is not how we all think, dress or feel!

The Batlord 09-01-2012 10:56 AM

^^^

I just have to say, that you will pay when you die and get to heaven and Joey DeMaio is sitting at the right hand of god. Other bands play, but Manowar sentences you to hell. Or something. :finger:

Unknown Soldier 09-01-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1226379)
Come on, we all love our metal, but none of us can deny that there have been bands out there who have just made us either laugh or cringe, either at how bad they are or at their over-the-top attitude. What band makes you almost embarrassed to be a metal fan, would be the LAST band you would want a non-fan to point to as what's wrong with the genre?

For me, there is only one...
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...mlTKNvqXkie-Jv

Their "crusade" in the eighties to "destroy false metal" had all the hallmarks of a clever promotional tool and a way to hook or sucker in naive metal kids. Their music is ok, don't get me wrong: I have some of their albums. But it's nothing amazing, and the image and attitude they displayed just made me cringe as a metal fan, and want to say this is not how we all think, dress or feel!

Along with pointing a finger at hair metal, chucking mud at Manowar seems to be a favourite past time of metal elitists, I used to to be one of those before I took metal far less seriously than I used to.

The fact of the matter is, that Manowar are GREAT they're the saviours of metal with their loud and bombastic sound and they have a string of great albums out there to blow your speakers. They're a band I can listen to at anytime, so Mr. Troll go and pick on another metal band;).

Mojo 09-01-2012 11:21 AM

http://www.billboard.com/photos/styl...08_617_409.jpg

Now, I'll make it known right now that I went to see Slipknot live a few years ago and to my complete surprise, I didn't totally hate it. It was fine. This came as a surprise cause it's not like I hadn't given them time before, or even seen them live before. I had previously seen them on at least two seperate occasions before this but at festivals, which may have just suited them very badly, but I strongly hated it. Basically, I don't hate their music. I just continue to struggle to even find the energy to properly form an opinion on it. I nothing their music. It has never left any kind of impression on me whatsoever.

What annoys me about Slipknot is everything about them that I find unnecessary and that I personally struggle to find the point or any benefit in at all.

Firstly, how many band members are crucial to their output? How many could easily be cut because their contributions to the band are so minimal?

Secondly, their status. Its not their fault but they became the poster boys of metal for a lot of people with little to no interest in the genre who, when they discovered I was a metal fan, made a judgement of me. "He likes Slipknot and all that kind of stuff." This is due to some peoples ignorance (not a criticism, just an observation) rather than for any fault of the band, I know.

And lastly what annoyed and continues to annoy me now is that literally everyone I know who likes Slipknot, every single one of them, tries to convert me to them with the words "but they put on a hell of a live show." All I saw when I went to see them was a few band members seemingly doing very, very little and periodically being launched into the air on podiums and turned upside down. They also left the stage and would reappear in various parts of the arena and amongst the crowd and all kinds of theatrics that were dragging peoples attention this way and that and ironically, away from the stage and the music.

There is sometimes a place for theatrics in rock and heavy metal. The likes of Alice Cooper and Iron Maiden have a long history of putting on what, in my opinion, are hugely theatrical, light-hearted live shows and connecting on a visual level rather than just an audible one. Sometimes metal should just be fun. Slipknot however, in my opinion, seem to be just as much of a travelling circus act as they do a band and almost qualify as a comedy act as far as a lot of their theatrical, colourful distractions go.

Everything aside from their music makes it impossible for me to relate to, connect with, enjoy or take Slipknot seriously, and as I said I'm not a big fan of their music either. Despite this I know that when some people hear that I enjoy heavy metal, this is their image of what this genre is and what it stands for.

Trollheart 09-01-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1226380)
^^^

I just have to say, that you will pay when you die and get to heaven and Joey DeMaio is sitting at the right hand of god. Other bands play, but Manowar sentences you to hell. Or something. :finger:

Um, what makes you think I'm going to Heaven? ;)
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/im...08Xfcmaac5u3zf

Janszoon 09-01-2012 11:56 AM

http://www.billboard.com/photos/styl...ed_617_409.jpg

Disturbed
I was going to say Limp Bizkit until I remembered this band. At least Limp Bizkit didn't seem to take themselves very seriously. Disturbed were just pure crap trying really hard to be... well... hard.

hip hop bunny hop 09-01-2012 02:32 PM

Nightwish.

Cheesier than Manowar, as serious as Burzum, & as talented as Linkin Park.

Edgukator 09-02-2012 02:10 AM

Cradle of Filth


Seriously, I know there is the Anti-religion thing going on as metal, and that John Lennon pissed people off with his bigger than Jesus comment, but google search the photo where Dani Filth is on the cross. You can't pretend to be Satanists and be Christ at the same time. That's just lazy...

mr dave 09-02-2012 06:38 AM

With an image like this I really don't need to type 1000 words...

http://net.archbold.k12.oh.us/ahs/we...ages/korn3.gif

Also mojopinuk is spot on with Slipknot though I still enjoy hearing their music when it comes up randomly (it makes for great gaming music when playing shooters).

Janszoon 09-02-2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1226577)
With an image like this I really don't need to type 1000 words...

http://net.archbold.k12.oh.us/ahs/we...ages/korn3.gif

Also mojopinuk is spot on with Slipknot though I still enjoy hearing their music when it comes up randomly (it makes for great gaming music when playing shooters).

That picture is pure class. :laughing:

Rjinn 09-02-2012 06:54 AM

I'm probably going to be killed for saying this but... Kiss. Facial make up is comically lame. Same as their lyrics and vocal style. Some romance and metal has a flamboyant ridicule that's repulsive. The instrumentation is alright, but covered with all that other nonsense is a shame.

Janszoon 09-02-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjinnx (Post 1226581)
I'm probably going to be killed for saying this but... Kiss. Facial make up is comically lame. Same as their lyrics and vocal style. Some romance and metal has a flamboyant ridicule that's repulsive. The instrumentation is alright, but covered with all that other nonsense is a shame.

No, I'm with you on Kiss. I'm just not sure I'd consider them metal.

mr dave 09-02-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjinnx (Post 1226581)
I'm probably going to be killed for saying this but... Kiss. Facial make up is comically lame. Same as their lyrics and vocal style. Some romance and metal has a flamboyant ridicule that's repulsive. The instrumentation is alright, but covered with all that other nonsense is a shame.

In Kiss' defense (good god I never thought I'd have to do this)... in their defense, at least they recognized that they were playing roles and recognized the cheesiness of their theatrics for what they were. Unlike the bulk of nu-metal bands from the 90s who took themselves far FAR too seriously.

Rjinn 09-02-2012 07:01 AM

Some consider them hard rock or heavy metal. I always see them in the category of metal in CD stores. *shrug*

Howard the Duck 09-02-2012 07:13 AM

The Darkness

i know they don't take themselves too seriously

but trying to resurrect pomp rock when Queen already did the best with that sub-genre is just well........ pompous

Rjinn 09-02-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1226585)
In Kiss' defense (good god I never thought I'd have to do this)... in their defense, at least they recognized that they were playing roles and recognized the cheesiness of their theatrics for what they were. Unlike the bulk of nu-metal bands from the 90s who took themselves far FAR too seriously.

Well that makes it simple then.

I do agree it was definitely apparent that they were all party, fun, and silliness, but I don't think they knew how ridiculous they were.

Howard the Duck 09-02-2012 07:44 AM

as a KISS fan, I just say "why so serious?"

mr dave 09-02-2012 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjinnx (Post 1226589)
but I don't think they knew how ridiculous they were.

Actually they were pretty candid in later interviews about being acutely aware of just what they were doing back in the day. Gene Simmons has always been a businessman looking to profit first and foremost.

Forward To Death 09-02-2012 11:57 AM

Fear Factory post-Demanufacture. Seriously, Gary Numan?

Key 09-02-2012 12:04 PM

Shaolin Death Squad

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/50...0504f11016.jpg

I listened to them for a little bit because of a recommendation from last.fm. I don't know what they were trying to do with music, but it just didn't work for me.


gunnels 09-02-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1226639)
Shaolin Death Squad
(video)

This was both hilarious and boring. I'm not quite sure how they accomplished that. The little interlude thing around 3:40 was so eccentrically random.
And that might be the most ridiculous promo pic for a band I've ever seen. I love the doofus in the back.

LOLPOCALYPSE 09-02-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 1226386)
http://www.billboard.com/photos/styl...08_617_409.jpg

Now, I'll make it known right now that I went to see Slipknot live a few years ago and to my complete surprise, I didn't totally hate it. It was fine. This came as a surprise cause it's not like I hadn't given them time before, or even seen them live before. I had previously seen them on at least two seperate occasions before this but at festivals, which may have just suited them very badly, but I strongly hated it. Basically, I don't hate their music. I just continue to struggle to even find the energy to properly form an opinion on it. I nothing their music. It has never left any kind of impression on me whatsoever.

What annoys me about Slipknot is everything about them that I find unnecessary and that I personally struggle to find the point or any benefit in at all.

Firstly, how many band members are crucial to their output? How many could easily be cut because their contributions to the band are so minimal?

Secondly, their status. Its not their fault but they became the poster boys of metal for a lot of people with little to no interest in the genre who, when they discovered I was a metal fan, made a judgement of me. "He likes Slipknot and all that kind of stuff." This is due to some peoples ignorance (not a criticism, just an observation) rather than for any fault of the band, I know.

And lastly what annoyed and continues to annoy me now is that literally everyone I know who likes Slipknot, every single one of them, tries to convert me to them with the words "but they put on a hell of a live show." All I saw when I went to see them was a few band members seemingly doing very, very little and periodically being launched into the air on podiums and turned upside down. They also left the stage and would reappear in various parts of the arena and amongst the crowd and all kinds of theatrics that were dragging peoples attention this way and that and ironically, away from the stage and the music.

There is sometimes a place for theatrics in rock and heavy metal. The likes of Alice Cooper and Iron Maiden have a long history of putting on what, in my opinion, are hugely theatrical, light-hearted live shows and connecting on a visual level rather than just an audible one. Sometimes metal should just be fun. Slipknot however, in my opinion, seem to be just as much of a travelling circus act as they do a band and almost qualify as a comedy act as far as a lot of their theatrical, colourful distractions go.

Everything aside from their music makes it impossible for me to relate to, connect with, enjoy or take Slipknot seriously, and as I said I'm not a big fan of their music either. Despite this I know that when some people hear that I enjoy heavy metal, this is their image of what this genre is and what it stands for.

I disagree with you on this one. I think their theatrics and "circus-act" appeal are what make this band so enjoyable to watch perform. I've never understood complaints about the extra members, either. When they aren't utilized they perform. When they are utilized they add to the music. I would rather have samples performed live than automated by a computer. They are a very fun band to watch, and they are consistently good performers.

From a musical perspective I can definitely see why you wouldn't like them. However, they are definitely a higher quality band than any other ultra mainstream group. I think they actually serve a purpose as a gateway band. They can get people into more extreme metal (unlike Disturbed and Linkin Park who have been mentioned already)

Norg 09-03-2012 01:06 AM

Lamb of god

Rjinn 09-03-2012 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norg (Post 1226773)
lamb of god

Yes.

almauro 09-03-2012 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1226773)
Lamb of god

I wouldn't but them on this list. LOG has some really killer tracks, and Chris Adler is one the best drummers out there.

Speaking of killer, Randy Blythe just got arrested for allegedly killing a fan.

Lamb of God frontman charged with manslaughter of fan | Music | guardian.co.uk

mr dave 09-03-2012 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward To Death (Post 1226636)
Fear Factory post-Demanufacture. Seriously, Gary Numan?

It's worth noting that their last few releases have moved back to the Demanufacture-era style quite a bit (Mechanize was solid, haven't checked out The Industrialist yet). Apparently there was a bunch of internal crap in the band and once that got address and certain people got their walking papers it resulted in a bit of a return to form. Still nothing that sounds like Soul of a New Machine but definitely better than Digimortal.

And if you think that Gary Numan cover is bad I'm assuming you haven't heard their cover of Nirvana's School :banghead:

Forward To Death 09-03-2012 07:13 AM

The Gary Numan cover WITH Gary Numan made me lose respect for them.

I liked Industrialist aside from one part: Drum machines sound so cheap and fakey, but if you can get passed that, "New Messiah" sounds like something they left off of Demanufacture practically.

Howard the Duck 09-03-2012 08:25 AM

personally, i think Manowar, Slipknot and Disturbed are all quite alright, musical-wise

it's more to do with their image rather than anything else

anything Manowar did rocks as hard, if not harder than Judas Priest

Forward To Death 09-03-2012 08:42 AM

Ugh, Slipknot just tries too hard to copy Sepultura/Soulfly. Disturbed is just "eh".

Norg 09-03-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almauro (Post 1226844)
I wouldn't but them on this list. LOG has some really killer tracks, and Chris Adler is one the best drummers out there.

Speaking of killer, Randy Blythe just got arrested for allegedly killing a fan.

Lamb of God frontman charged with manslaughter of fan | Music | guardian.co.uk

yeah i wouldnt put them on the list Slipknot has some really Killer tracks and Joey jordison is one of the best drummer out there



see what i did there :laughing:

Key 09-03-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1226913)
yeah i wouldnt put them on the list Slipknot has some really Killer tracks and Joey jordison is one of the best drummer out there



see what i did there :laughing:

But Slipknot have no talent compared to Lamb of God.

LOLPOCALYPSE 09-03-2012 01:49 PM

Even if I hated Slipknot I would have a difficult time saying Corey Taylor has no talent.

Forward To Death 09-03-2012 02:14 PM

Corey has an awful voice... So he's talented?

Haha.

LOLPOCALYPSE 09-03-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward To Death (Post 1226937)
Corey has an awful voice... So he's talented?

Haha.

Well this is certainly interesting

Howard the Duck 09-03-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward To Death (Post 1226885)
Ugh, Slipknot just tries too hard to copy Sepultura/Soulfly. Disturbed is just "eh".

you're just not listening intently enough

there's a lot of interesting things going on in Disturbed, at least in 10,000 Fists

Slipknot's rhythms are closer to "industrial"

almauro 09-03-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1226913)
yeah i wouldnt put them on the list Slipknot has some really Killer tracks and Joey jordison is one of the best drummer out there



see what i did there :laughing:

:rofl: Nobody's going to confuse Jordi with a great drummer. Slipknot's got three guys playing percussion and they've yet to put out a drum track that doesn't suck.

Neapolitan 09-03-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1226994)
you're just not listening intently enough

there's a lot of interesting things going on in Disturbed, at least in 10,000 Fists

Slipknot's rhythms are closer to "industrial"

They bang on beer kegs with a bat I think that reason enough to be called industrial.

Howard the Duck 09-03-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1227021)
They bang on beer kegs with a bat I think that reason enough to be called industrial.

"industrial" originally were meant for "Banging on metal trashcans with a bat"

Forward To Death 09-03-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1226994)
you're just not listening intently enough

there's a lot of interesting things going on in Disturbed, at least in 10,000 Fists

Slipknot's rhythms are closer to "industrial"

Lol, there's a lot of derivative ****ty lyrics and general style of the music.

I can hear everything you can, you just happen to have an appreciation for nu metal, and I definitely do not.

LOLPOCALYPSE 09-04-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward To Death (Post 1227025)
Lol, there's a lot of derivative ****ty lyrics and general style of the music.

I can hear everything you can, you just happen to have an appreciation for nu metal, and I definitely do not.

I definitely do not like nu metal, but Slipknot doesn't deserve to be in this thread (neither does Lamb of God or Fear Factory). Jumping to these bands indicates to me there wasn't a lot of thought put into it.

I would nominate Dragonforce, Powerglove, Horse the Band, Enter Shikari, Attack Attack, Asking Alexandria, Emmure, Chelsea Grin, Atreyu, hed(PE), Six Feet Under, Battlecross, Cradle of Filth, Limp Bizkit, Black Veil Brides, Nightwish, Kamelot, the list goes on...(and all of these bands are easily much worse than the aforementioned three)


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