Whiskey

Are you serious? I doubt thats how they reacted when nu metal was created. Not everyone of these older people grew up on thrash/death metal. And many also even enjoy nu metal, even those who grew up on other metal genres.

Norg

Yes everyone is different but thats just the vibe i was getting from the teenagers of the mid 90's

i just know how some people act cause thats the same way i reacted to Screamo and NU hardcore around 03-06 i didnt know much about it so i rejected it at first

Euronomus

The problem with nu metal isn't that it's a genre of bad ideas, it's that it's built on too few ideas to even sustain a couple of bands long term, let alone an entire genre of bands. The first couple of albums from Korn, Coal Chamber, Incubus, and the first Static-X, Orgy, Mudvayne, and Kittie albums were all great in my book, but after that it got real formulaic and boring really fast.


I was born in 1980, and yes I listened to a lot of industrial in my teens, but other than that I have no Idea what you are talking about, at the time people my age seemed to be into nu metal even more than the people ~5-10 yrs younger than me.

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Norg

hmmm that weird for the people born in 1980 they were 13 years old in 93

and 11-13 is when most people start buying or getting into there own "music" well i guess they were into early NU metal really there are two phases of nu metal i think 93-97 and then 00-03

anywayz i was 13 when nu metal first came out so i like Nu metal i grew up with it ...but i dont think i never turned into this elite music person like some people now i like everything form the past and current stuff

Euronomus

The first Korn album came out in late 94, and didn't get big(ish) till late in 95, and that was just the foreshadowing of Nu metal. IMO "3 Dollar Bill Yall"(97) is the first album of the nu-metal period, and the Strokes "Is This It"(late 2001) signaled the beginning of the end. That puts Nu Metals heyday from approx 97-02 which would put my generation pretty much right in the middle of the main music buying demographic at the time. I'm not saying your overall theory is wrong, but the age range you listed in your first post is definitely off, people my age were the ones who made Nu Metal big.

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Norg

i was born in 85 so yeah i was 11 in 96 didnt really get into korn till 97 there 3rd record so yeah i guess so i caught the mid way point

someone born in 1980 by the time he was 12 it was 1992 still a good 3 years away from Nu metal but pretty much got to see Thrash/Death metal heyday Industrail heyday and bands LIKE Faith no more and tool Guns n roses etc etc etc i doubt he was even thinking about NU metal in 1992 KORN and SLipknot were still in there basements LOL

and man in 1992 Grunge was KING around 1995 thats when KOrn came around and pretty much KIlled Grunge well grunge killed its self but u get my point

Whiskey

Korn has a lot of grunge influences in their music man. Especially the first album, that one just sounds like grunge with an odd guitar sound and angst-ridden vocals from Jonathan Davis. Ive heard that album a couple times so I know what Im talking about. Though I guess Im not so good when it comes to describing music.

to be honest though I think there wasnt really any pure nu metal album before Korn's first album back in 1994. So Im guessing they basically founded the genre, or at least, made it become quite popular. Limp bizkit did a good job about that too.

Norg

Nu metal was starting in like 1988-90 TBO

with bands like

Tool
Green jelly
Faith no more
Helmet
Mr bungle
Primus
Kings X
Urban dance squad

etc etc etc


thoes are some of the bands thas heavily influnced Nu metal bands of the late 90's

Euronomus

Influenced yes, but calling any of those bands Nu-metal is wrong.

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P A N

i honestly think nu-metal gets a bad rap because the moniker is just so ridiculous. it just looks stupid. anyone with a brain in their head is going to look at that word and just think "desperate."

i used to be right into limp bizkit, and i gotta say that their first album is incredibly inventive musically. i'm never one to pay too much attention to words in music, and i say this because every time durst opens his mouth to talk i wanna put firecrackers in there, and for this reason i find myself feeling a bit embarrassed to think that i still dig that album. john otto is a seriously talented drummer.

as far as defining elements of the music, it seems to me that something very prevalent in the genre is groove. it all flows pretty good, and i'm a great lover of funk music so i can totally dig that about it. something that bothers me about a lot of it is the attitude. a lot of cocky heirs of entitlement who - musically speaking - are masters in no sense of the word. i like a lot of it regardless though. incubus' first two albums were pretty bomb-ass, system kills it, rage (obviously) is awesome although toward the end they kind of became pioneers of recycling, and i don't know if marilyn manson falls into this category (i honestly hate categorizing music cuz it's all just music, but i try to roll with it as best i can regardless) but i f*ckin love that guy's first three or four albums. don't listen to a lot of this stuff any more, but i still appreciate a lot of it.

and them's ma' pennies.