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BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 03:41 PM

The Death Metal thread (version 2)
 
I did the first one and though I like it, I feel like I wanna start over again and do a new one.

The original can be seen here: http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...al-thread.html

I will probably end up doing some bands over from the first one, but I wanna start this one to get a new discussion going instead of resurrecting the old one.

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I have not listened to as much of the style as I did when I was doing the first one, but a few albums from last year I have checked out has sparked my interest again.

Gorguts, Ulcerate and Obliteration put out some great albums last year. The last one there has got me back into the mood for this.

I will leave this one open to anyone as well who wants to share a band, and album, and give us some insight into things.

So everyone feel free to add whatever, do a spotlight on a band you think people should know, be it an old established one, or a newer band who deserves some attention.

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 03:44 PM

Band I mentioned above. I had no real knowledge on them before. I was reading through a list of someones favorite Death Metal albums from 2013, and they ranked this album above both "Vermis" and "Colored Sands", so I of course had to give it a listen to see if their hype was justified.

I wound up liking this album a lot actually, has an old school sound with some more modern production values, which gives it an interesting feel. Has some Doom influences to it, can hear some influence from Autopsy here and there.



https://rateyourmusic.com/release/al...ath_horizon.p/

Engine 03-14-2014 04:22 PM

Generally speaking Death Metal doesn't do a lot for me. But due to the current Metal War (!!!!!!!!!!!), it's all I've been listening to for days. I think the two albums currently at war have reprogrammed my brain a little bit. The genre has clearly moved beyond the gross-out contest that it used to be, so I'm interested.

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 08:05 PM

Yeah, there are many types of Death Metal, some just go for the gross out and riffs, others have made more of an art form out of it. Like any style of music though, you have to look through a lot of shit to get to the good stuff.

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 08:06 PM

Glad to hear those 2 albums are changing your mind though. I will keep that type of sound more in mind for future wars.

Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 09:00 PM

As someone who is insanely in love with Melodic Death Metal I find it kinda sad, that Death Metal sounds so **** in my ears. Does anyone maybe know any Death Metal that is not just a blurry unmelodious noise with some piggy grunting in the background or is that what the genre is all about? Because if it is, I have a genre for you, called Noise which actually sounds pretty similar...

(oh yeah, I like the band "Death". That's the sad thing..Because there's nothing else in this genre I have found but this single band)

edit: ya, i've listened to the video you posted in this thread now and it's kinda the perfect example of what weirds me out with most of the death metal bands there are (except this is really slow, which makes it even more annoying)...****ty chords, lyrics that a child could come up with and so DAMNED untrained singing...come on..even tho it's grunting, you can't just drink a bottle of vodka, shout into the mic and think you're a superstar...

i'm srsly sorry about the words i'm using :P might come off harsher than i mean it, but it's just so ****ing sad, because this genre would really have a spark of good in there.. only ALL the bands i've heard suck monkey ass, except Death.

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 09:27 PM

What bands have you heard from the Death Metal scene? I think to actually see some of the stuff that leads you to the conclusion that the style if just noise to you can be addressed better by knowing what you know of it as a whole.

For me, when I first got into the style, I was limited to bands like Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Carcass and Entombed. Basically the bands that I heard on shows like Power 30 and Power Hour here. Which introduced me to many Metal bands when I was about 13.

Knowing only those small handful of bands, and not as much as I know now, I too felt like it would be a style I was destined to like for a period and move onto something else. Not knowing really until the days of the internet I would start investigating it further.

I think is is also a style that you may get some "music snobs" calling talentless wank, thinking it is just a gimmick... growing up I experienced most of the people I know just being like "oh, you like that?".

Mondo Bungle 03-14-2014 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kartoffelbrei (Post 1427617)
As someone who is insanely in love with Melodic Death Metal I find it kinda sad, that Death Metal sounds so **** in my ears. Does anyone maybe know any Death Metal that is not just a blurry unmelodious noise with some piggy grunting in the background or is that what the genre is all about? Because if it is, I have a genre for you, called Noise which actually sounds pretty similar...

(oh yeah, I like the band "Death". That's the sad thing..Because there's nothing else in this genre I have found but this single band)

edit: ya, i've listened to the video you posted in this thread now and it's kinda the perfect example of what weirds me out with most of the death metal bands there are (except this is really slow, which makes it even more annoying)...****ty chords, lyrics that a child could come up with and so DAMNED untrained singing...come on..even tho it's grunting, you can't just drink a bottle of vodka, shout into the mic and think you're a superstar...

i'm srsly sorry about the words i'm using :P might come off harsher than i mean it, but it's just so ****ing sad, because this genre would really have a spark of good in there.. only ALL the bands i've heard suck monkey ass, except Death.

I could recommend a couple thousand bands, but that would be quite a cumbersome post.






BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kartoffelbrei (Post 1427617)
As someone who is insanely in love with Melodic Death Metal I find it kinda sad, that Death Metal sounds so **** in my ears. Does anyone maybe know any Death Metal that is not just a blurry unmelodious noise with some piggy grunting in the background or is that what the genre is all about? Because if it is, I have a genre for you, called Noise which actually sounds pretty similar...

(oh yeah, I like the band "Death". That's the sad thing..Because there's nothing else in this genre I have found but this single band)

edit: ya, i've listened to the video you posted in this thread now and it's kinda the perfect example of what weirds me out with most of the death metal bands there are (except this is really slow, which makes it even more annoying)...****ty chords, lyrics that a child could come up with and so DAMNED untrained singing...come on..even tho it's grunting, you can't just drink a bottle of vodka, shout into the mic and think you're a superstar...

i'm srsly sorry about the words i'm using :P might come off harsher than i mean it, but it's just so ****ing sad, because this genre would really have a spark of good in there.. only ALL the bands i've heard suck monkey ass, except Death.


I do not know about the untrained singing part. Death Metal vocals may not be something people can get behind, but the singing is not always something that simple. It takes a great deal of technique and power to do. It is not just something someone can wake up and do. I mean, it is not Opera, but it is not simple either.

Lyrically, it can be about a lot of topics. Be it gore, satanic, political or cultural (think Nile, and their Egyptian inspired lyrics) or death with other subject matter that can be philosophical at times.

Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 09:39 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about Cannibal Corpse.
They are kinda ok, and two or three songs are actually pretty good.

The bands I've heard so far are Death, Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Napalm Death, Nihilist, Grave, and some stuff I can't name, because I only heard it at a friends place, who is really in love with the genre.

Yeah, I'm a musician since i was a child, as is my father, who raised me with classic, rock'n'roll and folk and I've played the piano for 12 years now. I usually always find something in every genre, but i have such a hard time trying to get into this style of music.

Have to listen to the stuff Mundo has posted now. Maybe there's something good in there :)

Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1427631)
I do not know about the untrained singing part. Death Metal vocals may not be something people can get behind, but the singing is not always something that simple. It takes a great deal of technique and power to do. It is not just something someone can wake up and do. I mean, it is not Opera, but it is not simple either.

Lyrically, it can be about a lot of topics. Be it gore, satanic, political or cultural (think Nile, and their Egyptian inspired lyrics) or death with other subject matter that can be philosophical at times.

Yeah, I've got a singing education, as I have sung Opera for a while, and I also know how to growl and scream very well, but I usually don't do it, because it ****s up my throat..so I know it's hard..but such a load of bands sound like they don't even try, yknow?

to the subject of lyrics: I love the lyrics of Death.. For me, that's how a lot of lyrics should sound like.. in every style of music.. Very poetic and dreamy, with the contrast of extreme music, makes it kinda cool :D

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 09:46 PM

I mean, it takes proper technique to do well. Like you say, the way it fucks up the throat. To do that for long periods of time, for shows that can be a couple hours, night after night, you must train yourself to know how to push yourself and pull off that type of voice without causing damage to the throat and vocal chords. Proper technique is a must.

Mondo Bungle 03-14-2014 09:47 PM

Nothing but slaying, this album has a good 8994 discernible riffs per song and wicked occult keyboard breakdowns



So this came out last year, evil and crushing beyond belief. A black metal band playing death metal, or perhaps vice versa



Can this be death metal AOTY if it's basically from 1993?


Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1427624)
I could recommend a couple thousand bands, but that would be quite a cumbersome post.

ok. Immolation sucks. I'm sorry :P

But the other two I kinda liked.
Atheist was actually pretty cool, and I liked that he switched between screaming and growling. Also the lyrics were good. Very dark, but good.

Neuraxis actually sounds a bit like In Flames.
I think they've been influenced a lot by them.
They take a bit of the melodic part out,
and insert more death. It's cool, would listen to that more often

Mondo Bungle 03-14-2014 09:58 PM

So it's safe to assume you just don't like legit death metal a la Bolt Thrower and Immolation and junk

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 09:59 PM

Check out Martyr if you dig Atheist or Death.

Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1427639)
I mean, it takes proper technique to do well. Like you say, the way it fucks up the throat. To do that for long periods of time, for shows that can be a couple hours, night after night, you must train yourself to know how to push yourself and pull off that type of voice without causing damage to the throat and vocal chords. Proper technique is a must.

That's a given.
Especially growling is hell.
I've learned how to reduce the damage a lot,
but if you are not careful, you will not be able to speak ever again,
if you do it too much.. and I can't even afford the well techniqued growling,
because there is no way you can do this, without damaging your throat.
And I could never sing operettes again.

Janszoon 03-14-2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1427661)
So it's safe to assume you just don't like legit death metal a la Bolt Thrower and Immolation and junk

I love Immolation and Bolt Thrower. :(

BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 10:03 PM

Bolt Thrower will always equal love to me. I remember seeing the video for "Epitaph" and thinking they had something so unique to them at that time.

I must have wore out a copy of "War Master" in no time. "The IVth Crusade" is in my running for favorite albums too.

Mondo Bungle 03-14-2014 10:04 PM

Guess you'd be all about this








BastardofYoung 03-14-2014 10:06 PM

Yeah, all good choices. More on the progressive side. Some jazz influences running through them as well.

Cynic are a band I would have recommended him. The follow-up to that album above is amazing as well. Their last few albums strike me more as Aeon Spoke using the Cynic name.

Janszoon 03-14-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1427669)
Bolt Thrower will always equal love to me. I remember seeing the video for "Epitaph" and thinking they had something so unique to them at that time.

I must have wore out a copy of "War Master" in no time. "The IVth Crusade" is in my running for favorite albums too.

Yeah, The IVth Crusade is easily my favorite album of theirs.

Mondo Bungle 03-14-2014 10:13 PM






Kartoffelbrei 03-14-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1427661)
So it's safe to assume you just don't like legit death metal a la Bolt Thrower and Immolation and junk

yeah that might be a good assumption.
I don't actually know so far, but I'll see..


ok i've listened to the next bundle you posted,
which was eternal dirge, grave miasma and trench rot.

Eternal dirge: Those poor girls gettin fisted by those guitarists, lol.
But actually the riffs were kinda good. Didn't like the voice tho

Grave Miasma: I like them. Very heavy, bit of punch in the face,
but still kinda melodic. There's actually some good stuff in this genre

Trench Rot: Very awesome riff.


edit: there's much too many videos here right now. i'll listen to them tomorrow. i have to go to bed, it's 5 am, ffs :D

The Batlord 03-15-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1427527)
Band I mentioned above. I had no real knowledge on them before. I was reading through a list of someones favorite Death Metal albums from 2013, and they ranked this album above both "Vermis" and "Colored Sands", so I of course had to give it a listen to see if their hype was justified.

I wound up liking this album a lot actually, has an old school sound with some more modern production values, which gives it an interesting feel. Has some Doom influences to it, can hear some influence from Autopsy here and there.



https://rateyourmusic.com/release/al...ath_horizon.p/

Loved their new album. I've been waiting a few years for their follow up to Nekropsalms. You should totally check that one out too. The new one has a more polished production, but on that album it just sounded so filthy. Took that kind of Obituary or Autopsy sound to the next level.



BastardofYoung 03-15-2014 02:47 PM

Yeah, I downloaded it. I heard a lot of "Soulside Journey" comparisons on it too.

BastardofYoung 03-15-2014 04:18 PM

My friend on facebook just posted this song in a group I started there. I really dig this.

lo-fi sounding, some avant-garde elements that recall bands like Phlebotomized and Carbonized. Maybe even a little Immortalis in the mix. Not sure much else about them, but I am going to be checking this album out more in detail later, for sure.


mythsofmetal 03-19-2014 05:01 PM

I just realized a second thread for this was made, so I deleted my post from the old thread and am re-posting it here.

Death Metal is probably my second favourite major Metal sub-genre second only to Black Metal. Some of my favourite bands in the genre are Death, Atheist, Bolt Thrower, Wintersun, Gojira, Kalmah, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquility, Hypocrisy, Children of Bodom, Codex Alimentarius, and Opeth.

It wasn't until about four years ago when I could finally start to tolerate and eventually appreciate the vocal style, but I'm glad I stuck with it because it revealed to me a whole new great plain of music to discover, and helped with me later with getting into my favourite sub-genre of Metal, Black Metal.

BastardofYoung 03-19-2014 05:38 PM

I think I shall start making a list of some albums I really enjoy. So I am taking it to Rate Your Music, and will be adding more and more as I go.

Right now, it is in developmental stages. So not in order, not much said about any given album... just a list of albums I consider the best I have heard.

But check it out, suggest me some albums to add. Give input, whatever... let me know what you think of any of these albums...

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/BuzzJoykill/death_metal/

Bare boned now, but it will look better with regular updates.

mythsofmetal 03-19-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1429662)
I think I shall start making a list of some albums I really enjoy. So I am taking it to Rate Your Music, and will be adding more and more as I go.

Right now, it is in developmental stages. So not in order, not much said about any given album... just a list of albums I consider the best I have heard.

But check it out, suggest me some albums to add. Give input, whatever... let me know what you think of any of these albums...

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/BuzzJoykill/death_metal/

Bare boned now, but it will look better with regular updates.

I recognize most of the bands on the list, but can't say I've heard a lot by any of them.

If you haven't checked out the album "Realm of Chaos" by Bolt Thrower, I think you should give it a try, and maybe eventually add them to your list. It's a great Death Metal album, usually regarded as their best by BT's fans I've come across.

Also, the absence of Death (the band by that name) on your list is peculiar to me, but you said it was a rough list, so I'm hoping to see some Death on there sometime later.

BastardofYoung 03-19-2014 06:29 PM

I know the Bolt Thrower album well. I will add something by them. Just getting it up and going right now. So this is not even 1% complete.

Death is guaranteed. I just made it like an hour ago and haven't even got started.

Janszoon 03-19-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1429673)
Death is guaranteed.

Way to bring everybody down man. :laughing:

Forward To Death 03-27-2014 12:03 AM

Industrial death metal/grindcore.





I'd like to find more death metal bands that are "different".

Janszoon 08-05-2015 10:51 PM

I've been on kind of a death metal/blackened death metal kick lately and would love some suggestions of newish stuff that's good. Any suggestions?

axstar713 08-06-2015 05:29 PM

Dead Congregation is one of my favorite newer DM bands right now - their latest album Promulgation Of The Fall is great, this track off their first full-length is my favorite:


v2gls 08-07-2015 06:39 PM

Two of my favourite "new" dm albums :
1. Anhedonist - Netherwards (2012)
This one has many elements of doom metal too. Amazing stuff... Too bad they disbanded last year..

2. Domains - Sinister ceremonies (2014)
Spanish dm in the vein of Morbid Angel..
Also, you can get it for free over at the Domains Bandcamp page

The Batlord 06-16-2016 09:25 AM

Been really loving Benighted's Identisick album. They're stone cold brutal death metal, but with a lot of simpler grooves and breakdowns that many tech/brutal death metal bands would ignore in their quest to outwank the competition. But the brutality and grindcore madness is just as, if not even more potent since Benighted are more dedicated to immediacy than a group like Hour of Penance or Necrophagist. Kind of feel like an even better and more DM version of Leng Tch'E, or Dying Fetus if their more thuggish moments were a bit Pantera.

Probably the most fun brutal death metal band I've yet discovered and I think I'm gonna go avail myself of the rest of their discography.






Quote:

Originally Posted by axstar713 (Post 1622989)
Dead Congregation is one of my favorite newer DM bands right now - their latest album Promulgation Of The Fall is great, this track off their first full-length is my favorite:


Old post, but I've been digging their second album after Mondo introduced me to it. Great atmosphere, totally dense, and anything DM album that mixes in doom gets extra point from me.

scumflesh 08-16-2016 12:36 PM

Those who like super obscure stuffs might dig PHRENELITH from Denmark.

They released only tape demos yet.

The Batlord 08-16-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scumflesh (Post 1730876)
Those who like super obscure stuffs might dig PHRENELITH from Denmark.

They released only tape demos yet.

Are they as good as PHRENEMIES?

Mondo Bungle 08-16-2016 01:31 PM

I saw Denmark and had to throw on some UNDERGANG because they're the heaviest mother****ing band and I'm realizing it's been so long since I've even thought about them.

This is like... swamp... god damn... mud from ****ing... hell and caves and ****

https://undergang.bandcamp.com/album/indhentet-af-d-den


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