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TheBig3 05-25-2014 08:49 AM

Whats the difference between Nirvana & Weezer?
 
Title.

Sansa Stark 05-25-2014 08:58 AM

Rivers Cuomo was into lesbians not junkie murderesses

Zer0 05-25-2014 09:02 AM

Nirvana never got to sink to the depths that Weezer did.

14232949 05-25-2014 09:36 AM

Weezer actually released good albums at one point.

Also, Weezer were capable of producing actual emotion as opposed to what always felt like Nirvana's brand of contrived, forced apathy.

Ninetales 05-25-2014 02:56 PM

Territorial pissings is a good song, something weezer does not have.

Moss 05-25-2014 08:04 PM

Nirvana had way more talent. Way more.

bread 05-26-2014 07:40 AM

there is literally no difference. nirvana and weezer are the same exact bands. dont let these geezers fool you. [sarcasm detected]

GuD 05-28-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1453833)
Nirvana had way more talent. Way more.

Nirvana wrote better songs, imo. But Weezer are more talented. Rivers is a pretty decent guitarist. Kurt... a lot of his riffs and some of his melodies were pretty derivative. And as others have said, Nirvana never started sucking. I'm pretty sick of 90% of Nevermind but it's still a great album, as are the other two and all the obscure material. Weezer started sucking pretty fast... they still write fun pop songs but they're just not the same.

Also, Kurt was kind of an elitist, self-absorbed douche. Rivers... well, idk. Never saw an interview of him.

hate paper doll 05-28-2014 11:52 PM

Rivers Cuomo is pretty narcissistic as well but at least Weezer didn't rip off the Pixies.

Neapolitan 05-29-2014 01:09 AM

There were more bands than just Pixies that influenced Nirvana, other influences are:
  • The Beatles
  • Black Sabbath
  • Devo
  • Meat Puppets
  • The Melvins
  • R.E.M.
  • Shonen Knife
  • Sonic Youth
  • Vaselines
  • The Wipers

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1454891)
There were more bands than just Pixies that influenced Nirvana, other influences are:
  • The Beatles
  • Black Sabbath
  • Devo
  • Meat Puppets
  • The Melvins
  • R.E.M.
  • Shonen Knife
  • Sonic Youth
  • Vaselines
  • The Wipers



Oh, of course. I was just referencing Kurt's "I basically ripped off The Pixies" quote. Weezer's done the same thing, Pavement and Metallica were huge influences on Cuomo.

TheBig3 05-29-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1454893)
Oh, of course. I was just referencing Kurt's "I basically ripped off The Pixies" quote. Weezer's done the same thing, Pavement and Metallica were huge influences on Cuomo.

Really?!?!?

James 05-29-2014 08:45 AM

What's the difference between Metallica & Weezer?

Moss 05-29-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1454885)
Rivers Cuomo is pretty narcissistic as well but at least Weezer didn't rip off the Pixies.

Kurt never hid that fact. And really he just used the loud/soft thing. Im not aware he stole any actual riffs or melodies.

And if I cared about a musicians personality I would have to cull half my collection.

Ninetales 05-29-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1454953)
What's the difference between Metallica & Weezer?

Pinkerton is an ok album i guess.

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1455073)
Kurt never hid that fact. And really he just used the loud/soft thing. Im not aware he stole any actual riffs or melodies.

And if I cared about a musicians personality I would have to cull half my collection.


I think I did a bad job of being a smartass, I love both bands. That Kurt quote just comes to mind every time people discuss Nirvana. Like I said, Cuomo's mentioned before how he had Metallica in mind when writing Undone - The Sweater Song, too.

Moss 05-29-2014 04:51 PM

Oh its a fair point, certainly a huge Pixies influence. Weezer has just never done much for me althogh I do own the blue album and have played say it aint so and hashpipe live many times. I do think Cuomo is a talented song writer.

Isbjørn 05-30-2014 09:55 AM

Nirvana are Weezer. Kurt was Rivers Cuomo with a wig.

Dylstew 06-01-2014 06:50 AM

I've never heard of Weezer before :/

Black Francis 06-03-2014 12:14 PM

The main difference to me is that they play 2 different styles of music, i can't think of a weezer song that sounds like Nirvana, to me they sound more like the pixies, i mean 'i bleed' is basically 'the sweater song' with a few tweaks



Still, it doesn't mean Weezer was just rip off of the pixies they had their own originality to them, same as nirvana, both bands are 2 different from each other, Nirvana is more like an overproduced garage grunge band and Weezer is more like a college band that are polished musicians but play stupid songs.

I think Kurt was a better Artist but Rivers is a better musician cause if you measure both bands by their guitars and song arrangements, Weezer is actually better, they have better backup vocals, better guitars, better solos but NOT better drums, Nirvana had better drumming with dave and a more genuine angst with their music and a better developed signature sound.

I luv both bands but i think there is little comparison between the 2

14232949 06-03-2014 12:38 PM

Here's a difference. How many B-Sides, rarities, compilations, bootlegs, unreleased material has been released from Nirvana? Plenty. Lots and lots.
It all sounds the same. All very atypically grungy.

They've never had a 'songs from the black hole' and they never will.

Also, have Nirvana ever actually made anyone feel something. Many people point to Pinkerton and Blue as albums that helped them grow emotionally.
Does anyone ever look at Bleach or Nevermind and say this is my go-to album when such happens or this is pivotal in my growth as a person? (not to be mistaken with growth in music taste)

Maybe I'm speaking for myself but the only thing Nirvana's music causes me to do is roll my eyes and turn down the volume.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1456614)
The main difference to me is that they play 2 different styles of music, i can't think of a weezer song that sounds like Nirvana, to me they sound more like the pixies, i mean 'i bleed' is basically 'the sweater song' with a few tweaks



Still, it doesn't mean Weezer was just rip off of the pixies they had their own originality to them, same as nirvana, both bands are 2 different from each other, Nirvana is more like an overproduced garage grunge band and Weezer is more like a college band that are polished musicians but play stupid songs.

I think Kurt was a better Artist but Rivers is a better musician cause if you measure both bands by their guitars and song arrangements, Weezer is actually better, they have better backup vocals, better guitars, better solos but NOT better drums, Nirvana had better drumming with dave and a more genuine angst with their music and a better developed signature sound.

I luv both bands but i think there is little comparison between the 2

the two bolded statements...

A). Surely if anyone could be suspected of this, it's Nirvana.
B). You have listened to Pinkerton, haven't you?

Surell 06-03-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1454891)
There were more bands than just Pixies that influenced Nirvana, other influences are:

if I ever see you forget Dinosaur Jr. again you're out of here.

Black Francis 06-03-2014 01:11 PM

@Manky

At least in my case, Yea, i can say i relate more to Kurt's style of lyrics than Rivers, it's less obvious and more artistic Rivers is more direct and simple with his approach.

I think Kurt was a better writer than Rivers and he also conveyed his message better. but it's like you said, maybe that's just my opinion cause i prefer Nirvana over Weezer.

A CD that helped me grow as a teen was In utero, especially the lyrics in 'Serve the servants'

"As my bones grew they did hurt
They hurt really bad"

it's a less obvious way of saying he had a rough time going through puberty, also Kurt was more popular than Rivers, he was a figure head in the Grunge movement were as Weezer was just a quirky alternative band.
Part of that was because alot of fans looked up to Kurt Cobain, few fans put Rivers on a pedestal like Nirvana fans do it with Kurt and that says alot about the influence he had on a generation. i don't think Rivers ever achieved that kind of status

Black Francis 06-03-2014 01:15 PM

Regarding your questions

Yes, i have listened to Pinkerton but i still prefer Nirvana's approach

And yea i guess Nirvana did rip off their Loud/quiet/load dynamic but i wouldn't say either band ripped the pixies off, i think they just influenced them a little.

cgw 06-23-2014 05:20 PM

I guess I can see how they might be compared. Easier to contrast though.
I saw them the other night and they played Song 2 which is ironic to me because I was thinking (to myself) that they were a sort of American britpop band (but better).

Norg 06-27-2014 01:55 AM

one bands name starts with a N and the other with a W .

neardeathexperience 07-03-2014 07:59 PM

Nirvana is always closer to the front of record store shelves then Weezer.


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