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joenorwood77 04-15-2015 04:57 PM

Will the Original Guns N Roses Line Up Ever Reunite? Ever???
 
If I could see any band perform live it would have been Nirvana. Since that can't happen, my second choice is the original GNR lineup. And yes, this means Steven Adler on drums. What are the chances that at some point Axl will give the fans what they want and play with the original guys? Most of the other guys have played together a few times since breaking up. I believe Duff and Izzy have both performed with Axl since then. Slash, Duff and Izzy have all performed with Adler post-GNR. If my understanding is right, the main conflict is still between Axl and Slash, while there is also some bad blood between Axl and Adler. Is that all fair to say and that the rest are cool with each other?

I still cannot get over Axl and how he dealt with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when GNR was inducted.

I won't hold my breath, but it will be nice to see the original five together, even just one more time. Hopefully an attempt happens before something happens like Adler overdosing on heroin. It is obvious that he is still fighting the demons of drug addiction, which really sucks.

BloodFoxTK 04-15-2015 05:15 PM

last i heard, Slash hated Axel.

if this is still true, this makes a reunion of any kind unlikely.

besides, G'N'R is nothing more than a cheap abomination now and should die since all forms of dignity have long since abandoned it.

Slash needs to reform Velvet Revolver, find a new vocalist and focus on that from now on.

either that or continue making music with Myles Kennedy.

joenorwood77 04-15-2015 05:21 PM

Myles Kennedy is actually quite talented so I agree with that comment. As much as I HATE to admit this, I did see GNR live a few years ago and the version with Axl and a bunch of randoms actually sounded decent. Their performance of Estranged blew me away.

The thing I keep thinking though is all of the bands who had members who hated each other, but most eventually get back together at some point, even if short lived.

The Batlord 04-15-2015 05:25 PM

God I hope not.

Wpnfire 04-15-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1577320)
God I hope not.

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Moss 04-15-2015 07:34 PM

Guns n roses...one of the worst, most overated bands ever. Please never reunite.

joenorwood77 04-15-2015 07:54 PM

First off, I never realized how overrated some people feel about GNR. Most people I have been around throughout my life are huge fans of them, or appreciate them even if rock is not their favorite genre.

Anyways, I do not expect the original GNR to reunite and remain together for an extended period of time. I understand and appreciate how they all have gone in their own direction. However, it would be nice to see them together at least once again, and possibly a tour.

I read of a time not long ago Slash went to Axl's home to talk and Axl refused to meet him.

Deep down I know Slash is better off not dealing with Axl and the pain in the butt he is.

BloodFoxTK 04-15-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joenorwood77 (Post 1577393)
However, it would be nice to see them together at least once again, and possibly a tour.

don't we have enough bands that are only living off their older material?

i mean, how long has it been since Rage Against the Machine reformed?

pretty sure it's nearly been 10 years.

we really don't need G'n'R outstaying their welcome too.

Wpnfire 04-15-2015 08:58 PM

Actually, I demand they reform so I can hear about Axl inciting a riot mid-concert as it occurs. Has anybody read about all the riots he singlehandedly caused? It's hysterical.

Janszoon 04-15-2015 09:05 PM

At their best GnR produced some music that I really love, but their moment is gone. Reforming would just take away from what came before.

joenorwood77 04-15-2015 09:08 PM

Well, Axl is still in Guns N Roses, just that he is the lone original member. I do recall a day when MTV always had news breaks regarding new issues with Axl, including the riots you are referring to. LOL

William_the_Bloody 04-15-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by joenorwood77 (Post 1577308)
If I could see any band perform live it would have been Nirvana. Since that can't happen, my second choice is the original GNR lineup. And yes, this means Steven Adler on drums. What are the chances that at some point Axl will give the fans what they want and play with the original guys? Most of the other guys have played together a few times since breaking up. I believe Duff and Izzy have both performed with Axl since then. Slash, Duff and Izzy have all performed with Adler post-GNR. If my understanding is right, the main conflict is still between Axl and Slash, while there is also some bad blood between Axl and Adler. Is that all fair to say and that the rest are cool with each other?

I still cannot get over Axl and how he dealt with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when GNR was inducted.

I won't hold my breath, but it will be nice to see the original five together, even just one more time. Hopefully an attempt happens before something happens like Adler overdosing on heroin. It is obvious that he is still fighting the demons of drug addiction, which really sucks.

Not if Axl keeps selling out shows, currently there's no incentive to reform with band members he can't control & dominate like sheep.

Anyhow, I'm generally with Janzoon on this, their moment has passed, I'd feel different about an iconic band like Nirvana, unfortunately you can't resurrect the dead.

Wpnfire 04-15-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1577440)
Not if Axl keeps selling out shows, currently there's no incentive to reform with band members he can't control & dominate like sheep.

Anyhow, I'm generally with Janzoon on this, their moment has passed, I'd feel different about an iconic band like Nirvana, unfortunately you can't resurrect the dead.

I lol'd at the "like sheep" part.

Jason1990 04-16-2015 01:23 AM

Slash and Axel hate each other still from what I've read... I highly doubt this will happen but you never know, they might put their differences aside one day :)

Chula Vista 04-16-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577421)
Has anybody read about all the riots he singlehandedly caused? It's hysterical.

One of the biggest asses in the history of arena rock.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 04-16-2015 10:20 AM

I think that whatever way it is approached, the argument that GnR sucks is invalid. Hugely successful band, and still largely successful, even with Chinese Democracy just going platinum. All of the tours the current incarnation has done were wildly successful. Cannot argue that.

There's also the fact that every member of the band during their hay day, were not mediocre musicians. I still have licks that Slash put down and leads that get stuck in my head they're that good and memorable; he wrote one of the most iconic solo's of the 80's/90's and is still a highly respected and sought after musician.

Say some band sucks, at least give some kind of explanation as to why, and not just some two line reason why. I'm not the biggest fan of GnR. But I'd be talking some sh*t if I said they sucked, sh*t that just wouldn't be true at all. You can dislike a band. But damn it all. People need to stop writing off entire bands or the people in them as crap, just because they happen to not like that band. That just doesn't make anyone look good. A lot of you talk about how certain ways things are said can make a person look, and on top of that take away from their credibility or how serious they can be taken. I think just coming in to a thread and quickly saying this band sucks and not giving a reason why that makes some kind of sense, does the same thing. Don't preach it if you don't practice it yo.

Myles Kennedy was brought up. That dude is amazing. Alter Bridge is pretty solid. Myles Kennedy, so far that I've heard, can sing anything and sound really great doing it.

In regard to if the original band will ever reunite. Doubtful, especially this far along from the initial split. Slash has openly stated he does not hate Axl. And I have watched interviews where Axl states he does not hate Slash. It's just that there's things neither one of them will move on from that's still keeping them from even being in the same room. Duff and Slash still do things regularly together, and I believe they've both done things with the other original line up often as well. Axl and Dizzy do stuff, obviously. It'd be some kind of act of God if all original members did anything together again. Right now, pretty much any original member of GnR are doing well, especially Slash. His little solo band he has going on put out a pretty great record recently, top to bottom.

The Batlord 04-16-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1577570)
I think that whatever way it is approached, the argument that GnR sucks is invalid. Hugely successful band, and still largely successful, even with Chinese Democracy just going platinum. All of the tours the current incarnation has done were wildly successful. Cannot argue that.

There's also the fact that every member of the band during their hay day, were not mediocre musicians. I still have licks that Slash put down and leads that get stuck in my head they're that good and memorable; he wrote one of the most iconic solo's of the 80's/90's and is still a highly respected and sought after musician.

Say some band sucks, at least give some kind of explanation as to why, and not just some two line reason why. I'm not the biggest fan of GnR. But I'd be talking some sh*t if I said they sucked, sh*t that just wouldn't be true at all. You can dislike a band. But damn it all. People need to stop writing off entire bands or the people in them as crap, just because they happen to not like that band. That just doesn't make anyone look good. A lot of you talk about how certain ways things are said can make a person look, and on top of that take away from their credibility or how serious they can be taken. I think just coming in to a thread and quickly saying this band sucks and not giving a reason why that makes some kind of sense, does the same thing. Don't preach it if you don't practice it yo.

Myles Kennedy was brought up. That dude is amazing. Alter Bridge is pretty solid. Myles Kennedy, so far that I've heard, can sing anything and sound really great doing it.

In regard to if the original band will ever reunite. Doubtful, especially this far along from the initial split. Slash has openly stated he does not hate Axl. And I have watched interviews where Axl states he does not hate Slash. It's just that there's things neither one of them will move on from that's still keeping them from even being in the same room. Duff and Slash still do things regularly together, and I believe they've both done things with the other original line up often as well. Axl and Dizzy do stuff, obviously. It'd be some kind of act of God if all original members did anything together again. Right now, pretty much any original member of GnR are doing well, especially Slash. His little solo band he has going on put out a pretty great record recently, top to bottom.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism 04-16-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1577580)

You bastard. I purposely wrote that to bait you. You're too good, sir.

Janszoon 04-16-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1577580)

tb;dla

CoNtrivedNiHilism 04-16-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1577585)
tb;dla

Not familiar with that one but I'm sure I've seen it...what's it?

The Batlord 04-16-2015 10:50 AM

I'm going to assume "too big; didn't look at".

Janszoon 04-16-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1577594)
I'm going to assume "too big; didn't look at".

I knew I could count on you.

Isbjørn 04-16-2015 10:54 AM

Spoiler for short answer:
No.

Spoiler for longer answer:
Haha, god no.

joenorwood77 04-16-2015 11:40 AM

From Steven Adler's Wiki page, first two entries referring to the band Adler's Appetite...

In September 2003, Adler's Appetite performed a show at the Key Club in Hollywood, where they were joined on stage by Adler's former Guns N' Roses band mates Slash and Izzy Stradlin, for renditions of "Mr. Brownstone", "Paradise City", and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door".

In July 2007, the group played another show at the Key Club, as part of their tour celebrating the 20th anniversary of Appetite for Destruction, during which they were joined on stage by former Guns N' Roses members Izzy Stradlin and Duff McKagan. Although Slash was also in attendance, he did not join the band on stage, stating that he did not want to encourage the notion of a Guns N' Roses reunion.

In 2010, Adler collaborated with his former Guns N' Roses band mate Slash on the latter's self-titled debut solo album, which was released in April.

And of course...
On April 14, 2012, Adler was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the classic lineup of Guns N' Roses. He headlined the induction ceremony with fellow inductees Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum, as well as former member Gilby Clarke and Slash's collaborator Myles Kennedy. Adler stated that being inducted was "an honor and a dream come true."

joenorwood77 04-16-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1577570)
I think that whatever way it is approached, the argument that GnR sucks is invalid. Hugely successful band, and still largely successful, even with Chinese Democracy just going platinum. All of the tours the current incarnation has done were wildly successful. Cannot argue that.

There's also the fact that every member of the band during their hay day, were not mediocre musicians. I still have licks that Slash put down and leads that get stuck in my head they're that good and memorable; he wrote one of the most iconic solo's of the 80's/90's and is still a highly respected and sought after musician.

Say some band sucks, at least give some kind of explanation as to why, and not just some two line reason why. I'm not the biggest fan of GnR. But I'd be talking some sh*t if I said they sucked, sh*t that just wouldn't be true at all. You can dislike a band. But damn it all. People need to stop writing off entire bands or the people in them as crap, just because they happen to not like that band. That just doesn't make anyone look good. A lot of you talk about how certain ways things are said can make a person look, and on top of that take away from their credibility or how serious they can be taken. I think just coming in to a thread and quickly saying this band sucks and not giving a reason why that makes some kind of sense, does the same thing. Don't preach it if you don't practice it yo.

Myles Kennedy was brought up. That dude is amazing. Alter Bridge is pretty solid. Myles Kennedy, so far that I've heard, can sing anything and sound really great doing it.

In regard to if the original band will ever reunite. Doubtful, especially this far along from the initial split. Slash has openly stated he does not hate Axl. And I have watched interviews where Axl states he does not hate Slash. It's just that there's things neither one of them will move on from that's still keeping them from even being in the same room. Duff and Slash still do things regularly together, and I believe they've both done things with the other original line up often as well. Axl and Dizzy do stuff, obviously. It'd be some kind of act of God if all original members did anything together again. Right now, pretty much any original member of GnR are doing well, especially Slash. His little solo band he has going on put out a pretty great record recently, top to bottom.

I appreciate this post. It shows a lot of maturity. Honestly, as being a new member to a music forum, I was shocked to see multiple people posting short entries basically just stating GNR sucks. I am sure some of those people are just trying to be funny while others perhaps serious. That would be like me saying Tim McGraw sucks just because I do not prefer country music. Appetite for Destruction is considered by many to be one of the greatest rock and roll albums of all time and GNR has influenced a lot of bands who followed. I am going to assume most people who say GNR is overrated likely did not grow up with them during the Appetite and Illusion days. They were the biggest thing around for their music, as well as their attitude and they did a lot to help the rock and roll genre, taking home quite a few music awards (along with dropping some profanities at an awards show as well). LOL

I am not here to convert people to become fans of GNR or any other band, really. I was just glad to see the post I am quoting.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-16-2015 11:58 AM

The only good things GnR ever had were attitude and energy, and that ran out sometime in 1989.
Saw them in 92 or 93 with the original line up minus the drummer and they were awful.
I doubt they'd be worth seeing again almost 25 years later when they're basically a bunch of old men.

Frownland 04-16-2015 12:00 PM

I feel like Slash has cast some kind of illusion over the public and tricked them into believing that he's an exceptional guitar player.

The Batlord 04-16-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577659)
I feel like Slash has cast some kind of illusion over the public and tricked them into believing that he's an exceptional guitar player.

I honestly think it's the hat. Aside from the riff to "Sweet Child of Mine", I really can't think of anything he's done that's more memorable than god knows how many other guitarists. But he does have a big hat and fuzzy hair to make people remember him.

Chula Vista 04-16-2015 12:21 PM

What really did it for Slash was that he came along with a Les Paul plugged straight into a raging Marshall playing good ole classic 70s rock riffs at a time when just about everyone else was using pointy guitars with Floyd Roses plugged into a ton of processing and playing weedly deedly stuff.

He was a major breath of fresh air when Appetite broke big and he's made the most of it ever since. While he may not be the most technical guy he plays with a swagger and attitude that perfectly fits his style.

My hands down fave G&R song.


Frownland 04-16-2015 05:35 PM

Slash was a breath of fresh air that smelled like cigarettes and whiskey.

Chula Vista 04-16-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577779)
Slash was a breath of fresh air that smelled like cigarettes and whiskey.

Rock and Roll baby.

Don't you have a trash can to abuse?

Frownland 04-16-2015 05:49 PM

Generally, if a guitarist is playing things that could have been played by other artists 10-20 years earlier and you really had to be there to understand why he's so great, the guitarists usually suck. This is the case with Slash.

Chula Vista 04-16-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577784)
Generally, if a guitarist is playing things that could have been played by other artists 10-20 years earlier and you really had to be there to understand why he's so great, the guitarists usually suck. This is the case with Slash.

Slash doesn't suck. Far from it. He plays that style extremely well and even adds his own thing to it here and there.

Doesn't a good chunk of your musical inspiration come from an artist that pre-dated G&R by 10-20 years?

Frownland 04-16-2015 06:00 PM

That and several other things. Slash played a few songs well but overall he's kind of boring. I guess he can be a professional at writing boring riffs and that's cool, but I still don't have to like him for it.

Janszoon 04-16-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577784)
Generally, if a guitarist is playing things that could have been played by other artists 10-20 years earlier and you really had to be there to understand why he's so great, the guitarists usually suck. This is the case with Slash.

Nah, he's pretty good. My only gripe with him is that he hasn't evolved much since the GnR days.

Chula Vista 04-16-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577787)
I guess he can be a professional at writing boring riffs and that's cool, but I still don't have to like him for it.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4104/...ded900eaf8.jpg

joenorwood77 04-19-2015 04:06 PM

For anyone who has yet to see/hear Slash playing the Godfather theme...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2njxAIKcPc

BloodFoxTK 04-20-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1577659)
I feel like Slash has cast some kind of illusion over the public and tricked them into believing that he's an exceptional guitar player.

i feel that while he's certainly not an exceptional guitarist, he's certainly a very talented writer.

and when he's paired up with other like-minded artists (see Myles Kennedy), i feel that his abilities are certainly noticeable.

as to Chinese Democracy. i personally hate this album. i can't really explain why. it's not because i miss the old line-up as i wasn't that big a fan of them either.

i suppose it all boils down to personal taste.

i would personally love to see Slash and Duff either keep doing what they are doing or find VR another vocalist.

joenorwood77 04-20-2015 12:55 PM

Chinese Democracy was a complete waste of time. Songs like Welcome to the Jungle were supposedly written in just a few hours, yet CD took like 15 years to write that P.O.S.

Plankton 04-20-2015 01:18 PM

Slash is more image than talent. That's like, my opinion. Man.


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