What do you think of Chinese Democracy?

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-21-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

haha, rose colored glasses.

You know I'm right Frownland. I'm completely right.

I don't understand though how it is that people that have never really been a fan of some band or whatever, can so easily throw around the word relevant, like at almost anything they don't care much for or hasn't been a band that has continued to tour and have positive interest their entire career. GNR goes away for this long, comes back, puts an album out, goes away for a few years, comes back. Money was involved. But you can't tell me the demand has never been there. It has always been there. You could try telling me that the demand was not from thousands or millions of fans. Just people wanting a nostalgia run. But that wouldn't discredit anything I've said about relevance or GNR.

So me being wrong in maybe your eyes if you don't agree, that to me does not make what I said not factual and it also doesn't matter to me. Because like I said. I'm right.

I just don't see people applying the term or word relevant correctly a whole lot here to an artist or band. It's used so loosely that I have no other way to view it other than they don't exactly know how to use the term, rather they just enjoy slapping it on whatever they care to and the people that agree with them only enable their behavior to do so.

Do I like this band? No. NOT A RELEVANT BAND. That seems to be the thought process.

What's relevance to you Frownland?

**Frownland** · 01-21-2016, 11:57 AM

And blind nostalgia makes them relevant, not taste or anything of that sort. You asked why anyone would go to their shows and I gave you an answer.

FRED HALE SR. · 01-21-2016, 12:03 PM

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And blind nostalgia makes them relevant, not taste or anything of that sort. You asked why anyone would go to their shows and I gave you an answer.

Taste is relevant to the person. Millions of people found the album tasteful. I personally thought it was lacking very sorely for an album that took over a decade to record, but I wouldn't deny its relevance to those who like GNR and the album.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-21-2016, 12:03 PM

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And blind nostalgia makes them relevant, not taste or anything of that sort. You asked why anyone would go to their shows and I gave you an answer.

What I am trying to say to you or the point that I am trying to make Frownland, is that it doesn't matter that whoever is keeping GNR around, whether those people just want the nostalgia it brings them, is still a source of demand and it's been more than enough for GNR to give the fans at least something. Nostalgia. Genuine interest. It doesn't matter. If the demand is there. The band is relevant. When their tours begin to fail and people stop talking about GNR and nobody is throwing millions at them to make appearances, that's when I'll agree that they've become irrelevant. Because in most cases when a bands career reaches that point, guess what? They go away.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-21-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Taste is relevant to the person. Millions of people found the album tasteful. I personally thought it was lacking very sorely for an album that took over a decade to record, but I wouldn't deny its relevance to those who like GNR and the album.

Hey, someone who partially gets what I'm saying. Cool.

**Frownland** · 01-21-2016, 12:04 PM

@CN not really disagreeing with that anywhere in my posts, just taking it as an opportunity to **** on GNR.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Taste is relevant to the person. Millions of people found the album tasteful. I personally thought it was lacking very sorely for an album that took over a decade to record, but I wouldn't deny its relevance to those who like GNR and the album.

I'd say they have awful taste if GNR is pleasing to them, but remember, I'm an *******. Plus, I bought the album in high school and thought it sucked so...

FRED HALE SR. · 01-21-2016, 12:06 PM

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@CN not really disagreeing with that anywhere in my posts, just taking it as an opportunity to **** on GNR.

I'd say they have awful taste if GNR is pleasing to them, but remember, I'm an *******.

You just enjoy your music with a bit more complexity. You like 9's not 4's man.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-21-2016, 12:07 PM

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@CN not really disagreeing with that anywhere in my posts, just taking it as an opportunity to **** on GNR.

I'd say they have awful taste if GNR is pleasing to them, but remember, I'm an *******. Plus, I bought the album in high school and thought it sucked so...

haha, well don't think I'm bothered or anything because I'm not. I'm not like that. I'm not getting my underwear in a bunch.

Sh*t on them all you like man. I don't care about that. I'm talking about relevance. Not about how much you think they're sh*t.

@Fred

And just so it's out there Fred. I like my music with more complexity as well. But I also enjoy the simpler stuff that's out there too.

**Frownland** · 01-21-2016, 12:08 PM

*avoids grammar nazi comment with every fiber of his being*

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-21-2016, 12:14 PM

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*avoids grammar nazi comment with every fiber of his being*

Just do it. I have a feeling I know what it is anyway.

01-21-2016, 11:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	And blind nostalgia makes them relevant, not taste or anything of that sort. You asked why anyone would go to their shows and I gave you an answer. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	avoids grammar nazi comment with every fiber of his being __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x