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JGuy Grungeman · 05-16-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Bobby's hilarious too. Peggy's more of a cringe based comedy though.

Ever seen the sex ed episode?

JGuy Grungeman · 05-21-2016, 12:54 PM

On Jazz Fusion, can we make room for Aja by Steely Dan?

**Frownland** · 05-21-2016, 12:57 PM

Not at the expense of any of those other albums, no.

JGuy Grungeman · 05-21-2016, 01:04 PM

OK, forget my last post. Apparently, my find function got messed up, and I couldn't find the jazz-rock section. Now I'm a little annoyed I missed that.

TechnicLePanther · 05-21-2016, 02:19 PM

Oh ****, we need to have one list for Jazz-Rock/Jazz Fusion, I didn't realize we already have a jazz fusion list. I will delete the Jazz-Rock list entirely, so anyone who wants to suggest changes the Jazz Fusion list.

JGuy Grungeman · 05-21-2016, 06:39 PM

No. They are two different things. Jazz-Fusion is more pop/soul/funk influenced and more experimental. Can you really put albums like Aja in with Head Hunters?

EDIT: And to be honest, I was seriously looking forward to both rounds. If we're having two arema rock rounds, I see no reason to delete one or the other. Both lists carry essential rock groups and have different sounds. Jazz-Fusion doesn't sound a thing like jazz-rock practitioners like Steely or Chicago.

**Frownland** · 05-21-2016, 06:54 PM

I would also agree that jazz rock and fusion are different, but I couldn't really tell you what that difference is.

JGuy Grungeman · 05-21-2016, 06:59 PM

Basically, jazz-fusion has a more light-hearted/poppy tone and has some R&B influence, but it still has a lot of jazz structures. Jazz-Rock is basically rock with some jazzy moments and are mostly based on rock structures. Jazz Fusion tracks are more jazz than anything, so like most jazz albums, jazz-fusion tracks are mostly instrumental. Jazz-rock bands usually have lead singers, so the tracks are more like radio hits.

**Frownland** · 05-21-2016, 07:01 PM

I stopped reading at poppy because that's ridiculous. Go listen to Bitches Brew.

JGuy Grungeman · 05-21-2016, 07:07 PM

To be fair, I felt a blend of soul and a little pop in other jazz fusion albums. Plus, BB is also avant-garde jazz, which doesn't blend well with pop. Bitches Brew is far more experimental than other jazz-fusion albums I've heard.

I meant it was a litle poppier in tone than jazz rock, not in genre classifications.

05-21-2016, 12:54 PM	#152 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	On Jazz Fusion, can we make room for Aja by Steely Dan? __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

05-21-2016, 12:57 PM	#153 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Not at the expense of any of those other albums, no. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-21-2016, 01:04 PM	#154 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	OK, forget my last post. Apparently, my find function got messed up, and I couldn't find the jazz-rock section. Now I'm a little annoyed I missed that. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

05-21-2016, 02:19 PM	#155 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Oh **, we need to have one list for Jazz-Rock/Jazz Fusion, I didn't realize we already have a jazz fusion list. I will delete the Jazz-Rock list entirely, so anyone who wants to suggest changes the Jazz Fusion list. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM** - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

05-21-2016, 06:39 PM	#156 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	No. They are two different things. Jazz-Fusion is more pop/soul/funk influenced and more experimental. Can you really put albums like Aja in with Head Hunters? EDIT: And to be honest, I was seriously looking forward to both rounds. If we're having two arema rock rounds, I see no reason to delete one or the other. Both lists carry essential rock groups and have different sounds. Jazz-Fusion doesn't sound a thing like jazz-rock practitioners like Steely or Chicago. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 05-21-2016 at 06:52 PM.

05-21-2016, 06:54 PM	#157 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I would also agree that jazz rock and fusion are different, but I couldn't really tell you what that difference is. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-21-2016, 06:59 PM	#158 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Basically, jazz-fusion has a more light-hearted/poppy tone and has some R&B influence, but it still has a lot of jazz structures. Jazz-Rock is basically rock with some jazzy moments and are mostly based on rock structures. Jazz Fusion tracks are more jazz than anything, so like most jazz albums, jazz-fusion tracks are mostly instrumental. Jazz-rock bands usually have lead singers, so the tracks are more like radio hits. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 05-21-2016 at 07:13 PM.

05-21-2016, 07:01 PM	#159 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I stopped reading at poppy because that's ridiculous. Go listen to Bitches Brew. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-21-2016, 07:07 PM	#160 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	To be fair, I felt a blend of soul and a little pop in other jazz fusion albums. Plus, BB is also avant-garde jazz, which doesn't blend well with pop. Bitches Brew is far more experimental than other jazz-fusion albums I've heard. I meant it was a litle poppier in tone than jazz rock, not in genre classifications. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 05-21-2016 at 07:13 PM.