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Pre-1984 era Whitesnake pretty underrated in the USA?
In the period 1978-1982 Whitesnake were a very good band with Jon Lord on keyboards, guitar duo Moody/Mardsen and Ian Paice on drums. Their run of albums from Trouble to Saint & Sinners including a live album Live...In the Heart of the City were very popular among British and European rock fans, while in the USA these albums didn't have any success. Whitesnake started to gain success there in 1984 with the album Slide it in and later reached the commercial peak with S/T or 1987 album, when they became a commercial hair band.
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Didn't you already make this thread?
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No. Whitesnake sucks.
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Can you explain me how and why they suck? |
The power ballads are stomachable but the blues and boogie-woogie stuff is horrible.
They've always been a sorry band with the occasional ok tune here and there. |
You are entitled to your opinions, but I don't see things the same way as you. I find the whole 80's Whitesnake to be much better than post-High'n'Dry Def Leppard, the 80's Aerosmith(in terms of quality Pump is a mile behind either Slide it in or Ready an' Willing), post-Blackout Scorpions(they became so damn lame) and all the 80's American hair metal bands.
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That's a pretty low bar for them to top.
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"Live...In the Heart of the City" is a very good live album, arguably their best record. Even their most successful, "hair metal" record 1987 has some really kick-ass tunes on it and IMO it ****s on any album by Motley Crue or any other record by lame 80's hair bands. |
Listening to Whitesnake's "Live in the Heart of the City" would change people's perception of Whitesnake. That album is killer and sometimes all Whitesnake I really need.
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Hot take incoming.
You all have it backwards, Whitesnake started out as a bog standard blues rock band that makes me wish I was listening to similar but better bands of which there were many, I'm glad they sold out big time because their s/t is the best hair metal album ever made, it legitimately f*ckng rules. It's ok to like mom rock guys. |
Early Whitesnake is fine but David Coverdale sounds like a cover band singer on a cruise ship.
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Fun fact when Ian Gillian left Deep Purple they tried to get Paul Rodgers to replace him but he turned them down to form Bad Company so they decided to get a Paul Rodgers impersonator instead and that's how David Coverdale got his big break.
Ok that last bit is speculation on my part but you know I'm right. |
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Cinderella's Long Cold Winter would also get a nod from me for best hair metal album. "Is This Love?" is a great ****ing song though. Even the house remixes of it are tight. |
John Sykes is a monster player and the only reason anyone should ever consider listening to anything they made after Saints and Sinners.
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No joke I've been meaning to delve more into hair metal because why not?
I unironically love Dokken's theme song for Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors. |
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The Motley Crue hate can get Robloxed. Too Fast for Love, Shout at the Devil, and Dr. Feelgood are amazing.
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Motley Crue is where I draw the line, their early stuff is not so bad but aside from Dr. Feelgood I can't f*ck with anything 1985 onwards.
Crue Ball on the Sega Genesis is a fun pinball game, that's their greatest achievement. |
Their first album was great, then they dove right into poseur mode. Any discerning 80's metal head knows this.
Que the ground breaking caesuras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahq4blDfU5s |
Any discerning meathead knows that started with their third album. Shout at the Devil is unassailable. I even love a lot of their poseur **** tbh.
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Go back to the 80's and say that at a Slayer concert. Wear a helmet.
Every song on that album is cringe worthy poseur material. |
Slayer fans in the 80s had zero chill so that's hardly a good metric to go by.
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If I was at a party in the 80's and put on SATD, I'd have gotten my ass kicked.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's a scientific fact. |
Kickstart My Heart is one of the best hair metal songs of all time, no cap. I went to college in 2013 and this song STILL was a hit at drunk-filled parties. That's how you know it's got longevity.
Shout at the Devil is def their best album though. |
Of course frat boyz still like it. It was scientifically formulated for the dudebro demographic.
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Are you thinking of Dr Feelgood cause Shout at the Devil goes harder than the debut.
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I think maybe you're thinking I'm thinking that but I'm not thinking that. I'm just stating scientific facts. I was there when it all went down.
Man. Hanging out with Zoetrope and quite a few other thrash bands in the area in the 80's, they all despised anything Motley except for the first album. I don't know what else to tell ya. |
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I like to play Fuel by Metallickers along with it as a pairing.
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Yep. It was the whole package that mattered and you take the crappy tune or two and try and justify it by saying stuff like "They're just showing their vulnerability" and then promptly throw up some devil horns.
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That song bops though.
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