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Old 05-14-2017, 05:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Those dumb, chunky riffs, that over-the-top vocal performance, this is metal as **** in both the best and worst ways.




The opening drum beat, the speed metal godliness, and Rob Halford's falsetto madness.




Metal at its most cheesy and self-indulgent, but raw and sick as ****. This pretty much is metal in a nutshell.

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Old 05-14-2017, 05:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I mean... I didn't knock on those albums. NotB and Powerslave are amazing records. But there really is never a dull moment on Somewhere in Time.
Um ... "Alexander the Great" (Alexander the Too Long), "The loneliness of the long distance runner"? Ugh. Great songs on it, sure, but there's a lot I would pass on certainly. Not particularly crazy about "Stranger in a strange land" or "Deja Vu" either. I don't hate them, but I can live without them. For me, that makes it the least consistent album up to that, and prior to the godawful X Factor.
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I'll save them the trouble.

The question is what is the epitome of heavy metal for you?

If those bands, which besides black sabbath are not metal, are what you find to be the epitome then say it. And it doesn't matter, at least for this thread, what started the genre, what defines it is what is important.
Also, it's what song, not what band(s)?
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All three of those bands formed the exact same year, 1968. Black Sabbath does not sound like Deep Purple, or Led Zeppelin. Did Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin pioneer heavier music and hard rock? Absolutely. But Black Sabbath would be the first Heavy Metal band. Nothing before that would be heavy metal.
I agree. Sabbath yes, Purple/Zep emphatically no.
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I like your picks. Pretty much everything up through Seventh Son I enjoy immensely. But from NotB through Somewhere in Time is one of the most excellent streak of albums for me.
I would consider Maiden's "golden period" (shut up Batty) to be Killers/Number/Piece/Powerslave/Somewhere/Seventh
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While I think all of their work is far from the epitome of metal, I always thought that Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was their best album.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Oh look. pointless debates in a metal thread. what are we, All Metal Forums?
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While I think all of their work is far from the epitome of metal, I always thought that Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was their best album.
No doubt a fantastic record. But Epitome of metal does not mean the best song in all of metal for me at least. When I think epitome I think what song I put hand in hand with the term heavy metal. I'm assuming that's how you are taking it since you picked slayer.

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No doubt a fantastic record. But Epitome of metal does not mean the best song in all of metal for me at least. When I think epitome I think what song I put hand in hand with the term heavy metal. I'm assuming that's how you are taking it since you picked slayer.
Ja that's how I view it as well. I still stand by my statement about Maiden since they're just not heavy enough and created their music in a context where much heavier music existed.
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For industrial metal probably these:



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Oh look. pointless debates in a metal thread. what are we, All Metal Forums?
Looks at subforum description: "Discuss rock and metal". Looks back at Ki, wonders just exactly how high he is?
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Turns out the thing the Planet Smasher hated the most… was musicals! Who saw that coming?!
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