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Wpnfire 06-24-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1848949)
I have such a weird relationship with that album. I love some of the riffs like a fat kid loves cake, I think the title track is perfect thrash along with "Merciless Death", want to be totally down with it, and can kind of jam out to the album in general, but the production has just never grown on me. I just want the riffs to be a little clearer. That's all I ****ing want in the world.

The production is very rough I agree. The guitars almost sound scooped.

This list reminds me how Darkness Descends is weirdly ignored on the internet. In real life, it's hard to find someone that doesn't love that album, but on the internet, DD is greatly overshadowed by other albums like Spectrum of Death. I think that's because DD itself was overshadowed in its day by the other great '86 thrash releases and that's just continued to this day.

Frownland 06-24-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849401)
Coltrane, Parker, Montgomery, Corea, love them all.

Stream of Consciousness music is essential. I've never studied them but have completely absorbed them. I know it comes out in tiny little ways when I'm totally going off.

https://wolvesinsheepskin.bandcamp.c...m/lizard-of-ox
https://queensofshiva.bandcamp.com/releases

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1849402)

1) Sabotage, 2) Paranoid, 3) Master of Reality, 4) Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, 5) Black Sabbath, 6) Volume 4.

**** yes, another Sabatoge lover.

Cuthbert 06-24-2017 09:59 AM

I was also going to mention Sabotage. Give me some credit too.

The Batlord 06-24-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1849436)
Beat off to olive oil? Like seeing a bottle of it makes them hot?

Popeye porn.

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1849438)
You haven't. And that's what's reflected in your terrible music.

You've heard way less than 0.25% of the music I've played/made over the last
4+ decades. :banghead:

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1849454)

Exactly what is "prepared piano". Actually liked the track Release.

Frownland 06-24-2017 10:15 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_piano

It's when you alter the piano's sound by adding stuff to the strings. John Cale did it in the VU in All Tomorrow's Parties and Briano Eno did it on Music for Airports (and possibly more). In Queens of Shiva, we used cymbals, pens, and paperclips on the grand piano's strings to give it a percussive sound.

Both of those albums blatantly rip Coltrane off to the max.

The Batlord 06-24-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849460)
You've heard way less than 0.25% of the music I've played/made over the last
4+ decades. :banghead:

How much of Frownie's music have you heard?

Cuthbert 06-24-2017 10:34 AM

lol I just clicked that link.

Exactly what I expected.

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1849475)
How much of Frownie's music have you heard?

Loaded question.

https://media.tenor.com/images/4c349...b05f/tenor.gif

OccultHawk 06-24-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849460)
You've heard way less than 0.25% of the music I've played/made over the last
4+ decades. :banghead:

I did have that misfortune, yes.

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1849446)
The production is very rough I agree. The guitars almost sound scooped.

Blame Mesa Boogie. So many players abused their on-board EQ. Look familier?

https://triptopine.files.wordpress.c...2/img_1810.jpg

Wpnfire 06-24-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849488)
Blame Mesa Boogie. So many players abused their on-board EQ.

I blame Dimebag. Dude's tone sounds like a piece of paper ripping on their first two. It sounds cool, but it's grating after a while.

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1849492)
I blame Dimebag.

Blame Randall amps then. I have no clue why he chose to use such ****ty solid state amps other than he got them for free.

http://images.equipboard.com/uploads...g?v=1473799728

Neapolitan 06-24-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849488)
Blame Mesa Boogie. So many players abused their on-board EQ. Look familier?

https://triptopine.files.wordpress.c...2/img_1810.jpg

What are you on about? Most guitar players scoop their mid-range.

Wpnfire 06-24-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849495)
Blame Randall amps then. I have no clue why he chose to use such ****ty solid state amps other than he got them for free.

http://images.equipboard.com/uploads...g?v=1473799728

wtf is a Randall amp? Everybody in metal (thrash and death metal anyway) uses like the same two amps, one of them being Marshalls. I can count with one hand the number of times I've heard of a guitar player in those genres using something else. Zero.

Wpnfire 06-24-2017 01:54 PM

Also I love how that picture calls him by his old name Diamond Darrell. :laughing:

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1849498)
What are you on about? Most guitar players scoop their mid-range.

A lot of metal players simply way overdid it for a long period.

Spectralmusic 06-24-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1849458)
I was also going to mention Sabotage. Give me some credit too.

Hell yeah!

Hole In The Sky
Symptom of the Universe
Megalomania


:pimp:

Thelonious Monkey 06-24-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic (Post 1849546)
Hell yeah!

Hole In The Sky
Symptom of the Universe
Megalomania


:pimp:

Sabotage is the best Sabbath album, I agree.

Spectralmusic 06-24-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1849553)
Sabotage is the best Sabbath album, I agree.

For me it's:

Master Of Reality(as perfect as metal can possibly get in 1971 IMO, and complete stoned tracks too! Sleep/Kyuss all over this sexy bitch) :D
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (even for just the title track, but Spiral Architect is one of the best songs of all time IMO)
Sabotage
Paranoid
Black Sabbath


> Then everything else


btw, do we have a specifically Sabbath-related thread here? :beer:

Mondo Bungle 06-24-2017 08:44 PM

Yeah right

OccultHawk 06-24-2017 10:15 PM

Does anyone rank Heaven and Hell in the top 3?

Chula Vista 06-24-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1849599)
Does anyone rank Heaven and Hell in the top 3?

Love the RJD era but it's like a completely different band for me. I almost don't even think of it as Sabbath.

Ozzy is to Sabbath what Gillan was to Purple, and Plant was to Zeppelin.

Each, an incredibly unique and individual instrument that helped 'make' the classic sound of the bands that created the foundation of popular heavy metal IMO.

*fixed

OccultHawk 06-24-2017 10:44 PM

*Gillan

Spectralmusic 06-24-2017 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849606)
Love the RJD era but it's like a completely different band for me. I almost don't even think of it as Sabbath.

Same, it's a great record but Sabbath? it's practically a Dio album with special guests :rofl:

OccultHawk 06-24-2017 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic (Post 1849623)
Same, it's a great record but Sabbath? it's practically a Dio album with special guests :rofl:

Yeah except those special guests were founding members of Black Sabbath.

Spectralmusic 06-25-2017 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1849625)
Yeah except those special guests were founding members of Black Sabbath.

....which makes it all that more confusing :(

MicShazam 06-25-2017 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1849599)
Does anyone rank Heaven and Hell in the top 3?

My top 3 is:

1. Heaven & Hell
2. Mob Rules
3. Never Say Die

... then some of those 80's albums no one cares about. Seventh Star is especially nice in my opinion.

I do like the pre-Never Say Die Ozzy albums to some extent, but they're very uneven to me. I could assemble one killer album out of those discs though.
Take You Won't Change Me, for example. Killer song, but overall, I find Technical Ecstasy to be sort of meh.

Spectralmusic 06-25-2017 06:38 AM

I don't know about anyone else but this riff from Iron Man gets me every time:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...HJdJoZ2wOAn9Tv

Also the outro!

Janszoon 06-25-2017 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1849459)
Popeye porn.

That's Oyl.

The Batlord 06-25-2017 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1849949)
That's Oyl.

I'm sorry I'm not an expert in early 20th century hentai.

Wpnfire 06-25-2017 07:02 PM

^The above exchange is classic MB off-topicitis.

OccultHawk 06-26-2017 10:29 AM

I cannot recognize Sabotage as a legit choice for best Sabbath record.

Frownland 06-26-2017 11:12 AM

Don't start.


Cuthbert 06-26-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1850076)
I cannot recognize Sabotage as a legit choice for best Sabbath record.



Come on m8.


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