The Official Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan Thread

Necromancer · 10-20-2011, 07:25 PM

Always liked the Smashing Pumpkins. Looking forward to hear Billy Corgan has done with his new concept album Oceania.

Corgan: "I still stand by my view that I don't think albums are particularly relevant at this time. That may change. But as far as making music…from a writing point of view, it's really going to focus me to put a group of songs together that are supposed to go together".

Bassist Nicole Fiorentino had this to say about her role in recording Oceania:

“ I think because we are all working together on this record it is naturally going to have a different vibe than any of the other records on which Billy played most of the instruments himself. I think we delved into new territory for sure, but what I love about this record is that it has that familiar old-school Pumpkins feel to it, with a modern twist. The cool thing is he was able to capture the energy of the old material without ripping it off. Billy's definitely found his way back to whatever he was tapping into when writing Gish and [Siamese Dream]

source: Oceania (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Engine · 10-20-2011, 07:56 PM

To me, SP have been crap since the early 90s so I'll be pleasantly shocked if this bassist's statement is anywhere near correct. "New territory" has never been Corgan's strong suit.

Necromancer · 10-21-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

To me, SP have been crap since the early 90s so I'll be pleasantly shocked if this bassist's statement is anywhere near correct. "New territory" has never been Corgan's strong suit.

I especially liked their first four albums, Gish (1991), Siamese Dream (1993), Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (1995), and Adore (1998).

I always thought that Billy Corgan was a decent singer/songwriter/musician.

Are you just being another one of those "Mainstream Music Nazi's" Engine?

duga · 10-21-2011, 11:11 AM

I'll still listen to it, but I can't hold out much hope. His new material has been decent, but nowhere near the old stuff. It used to be that I couldn't wait to listen to SP, but not I'm kind of indifferent.

On the other hand, though, Gish and Siamese remasters! Woot woooot!

Zer0 · 10-22-2011, 06:11 PM

Ringo Deathstarr are supporting them on their European tour, dammit I'd nearly go just to see them, can't really afford a trip to the UK at the moment though

Yey for Gish and Siamese Dream remasters. Wonder will the extras be anything we haven't heard before, maybe a live gig or something?

duga · 10-22-2011, 06:58 PM

All the remasters are coming with a DVD of an era specific concert at the Metro. I'm definitely excited for that...it's the one thing the Pumpkins have been missing. All we've had is Vieuphoria...which is just ok. I guess there is If All Goes Wrong...but that's all new stuff. I don't really want the new stuff. So yeah, for that reason alone I would buy these remasters.

Zer0 · 10-22-2011, 07:29 PM

Excellent. Yeah one thing we're missing is a proper Pumpkins live dvd, I'd buy Gish and Siamese Dream again just for that.

Engine · 10-23-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I especially liked their first four albums, Gish (1991), Siamese Dream (1993), Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (1995), and Adore (1998).

I always thought that Billy Corgan was a decent singer/songwriter/musician.

Are you just being another one of those "Mainstream Music Nazi's" Engine?

Goodness, no. My disgust is sincere. All I know is that Mellon Collie was a serious downgrade in quality and SP/Corgan have never been the same since. I still absolutely love Gish and most of Siamese Dream. Oh, and Pisces Iscariot is really good too. But that's enough for me, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Excellent. Yeah one thing we're missing is a proper Pumpkins live dvd, I'd buy Gish and Siamese Dream again just for that.

This is pretty good for old live stuff:

edit: I see you guys already covered and disregarded Vieuphoria. I think it's pretty good.

duga · 10-23-2011, 03:32 PM

^

It's ok...until now it has satisfied my need for early 90's Pumpkins. The thing is, it's not one consistent show and the quality is questionable. It's cool as a behind the scenes look at the band, though.

marksingermiller · 11-06-2011, 01:56 AM

Bullet with butterfly wings, disarm, Rhinoceros, they were just awsome, tonight was great too

10-20-2011, 07:56 PM	#442 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	To me, SP have been crap since the early 90s so I'll be pleasantly shocked if this bassist's statement is anywhere near correct. "New territory" has never been Corgan's strong suit. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

10-21-2011, 11:11 AM	#444 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	I'll still listen to it, but I can't hold out much hope. His new material has been decent, but nowhere near the old stuff. It used to be that I couldn't wait to listen to SP, but not I'm kind of indifferent. On the other hand, though, Gish and Siamese remasters! Woot woooot! __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

10-22-2011, 06:11 PM	#445 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	Ringo Deathstarr are supporting them on their European tour, dammit I'd nearly go just to see them, can't really afford a trip to the UK at the moment though Yey for Gish and Siamese Dream remasters. Wonder will the extras be anything we haven't heard before, maybe a live gig or something? __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

10-22-2011, 06:58 PM	#446 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	All the remasters are coming with a DVD of an era specific concert at the Metro. I'm definitely excited for that...it's the one thing the Pumpkins have been missing. All we've had is Vieuphoria...which is just ok. I guess there is If All Goes Wrong...but that's all new stuff. I don't really want the new stuff. So yeah, for that reason alone I would buy these remasters. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

10-22-2011, 07:29 PM	#447 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	Excellent. Yeah one thing we're missing is a proper Pumpkins live dvd, I'd buy Gish and Siamese Dream again just for that. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

10-20-2011, 07:25 PM	#441 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Always liked the Smashing Pumpkins. Looking forward to hear Billy Corgan has done with his new concept album Oceania. Corgan: "I still stand by my view that I don't think albums are particularly relevant at this time. That may change. But as far as making music…from a writing point of view, it's really going to focus me to put a group of songs together that are supposed to go together". Bassist Nicole Fiorentino had this to say about her role in recording Oceania: “ I think because we are all working together on this record it is naturally going to have a different vibe than any of the other records on which Billy played most of the instruments himself. I think we delved into new territory for sure, but what I love about this record is that it has that familiar old-school Pumpkins feel to it, with a modern twist. The cool thing is he was able to capture the energy of the old material without ripping it off. Billy's definitely found his way back to whatever he was tapping into when writing Gish and [Siamese Dream] source: Oceania (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10-23-2011, 03:32 PM	#449 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	^ It's ok...until now it has satisfied my need for early 90's Pumpkins. The thing is, it's not one consistent show and the quality is questionable. It's cool as a behind the scenes look at the band, though. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

11-06-2011, 01:56 AM	#450 (permalink)
marksingermiller Groupie Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 16	Bullet with butterfly wings, disarm, Rhinoceros, they were just awsome, tonight was great too