KISS- why not retire??

The Batlord · 10-04-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Imagine yourself living your whole long life as a musician. You're having a great time with it and you're in a successful act and getting paid. You've done it so long, it's basically who you are.

Then someone says you were better back in the day and because of that, you should give it up. What do you do?

Better than being in a moderately successful band that makes enough to support themselves, but not enough to put money away for retirement. When you've been plugging away for ten years, not learning any marketable jobs skills or building a resume or going to college, and then all of a sudden your best years are behind you, what the **** do you do then? Go flip burgers so that your fans won't call you a sellout or washed up?

Franco Pepe Kalle · 10-04-2012, 09:45 AM

I hate to say it but Kiss is a pretty decent with a good entertainer in Gene Simmons. He is one person that I have been able to tolerate for some time. Plus Gene Simmons has never lost his thunder. He has always been able to keep it. That is Kiss is still a good band even today.

Unknown Soldier · 10-04-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

I hate to say it but Kiss is a pretty decent with a good entertainer in Gene Simmons. He is one person that I have been able to tolerate for some time. Plus Gene Simmons has never lost his thunder. He has always been able to keep it. That is Kiss is still a good band even today.

I doubt your parents would approve of his lifestyle.

Guybrush · 10-05-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Better than being in a moderately successful band that makes enough to support themselves, but not enough to put money away for retirement. When you've been plugging away for ten years, not learning any marketable jobs skills or building a resume or going to college, and then all of a sudden your best years are behind you, what the **** do you do then? Go flip burgers so that your fans won't call you a sellout or washed up?

Exactly.

So I guess we can agree that the argument that anyone should "give up their music career" just because you think they're not as good as they were is a dumb one!

Rjinn · 10-05-2012, 03:41 AM

Tbh if anyone has a career open and they have something they could make from themselves while being supported no matter the judgment, I doubt they would give it up. Unless they want a career change, which in this case no. It's very improbable.

The Batlord · 10-05-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Exactly.

So I guess we can agree that the argument that anyone should "give up their music career" just because you think they're not as good as they were is a dumb one!

To anyone familiar with the thrash band, Exodus, you see the perfect example. They broke up in the early nineties, and then got back together in the late nineties and have been releasing music ever since. They're still awesome, don't get me wrong, but considering that the main driving force behind the band, Gary Holt, has basically said that when the band disbanded, that he had no way to get a good job and became a meth addict, I can't help but believe that he restarted the band less for artistic reasons than just plain survival. And so long as he still makes good music and puts on good concerts, I am quite happy to subsidize him for the years of listening enjoyment he's given me.

Plankton · 10-05-2012, 11:21 AM

I saw Kiss a few years ago, and while they were solid, my GF pointed out to me how silly Paul looked crawling around on the stage trying to look sexy. She's said "He's in his 60's for crying out loud!". That kind of struck a chord with me. But, that's just part of the act that the fans want to see. And there are plenty of em. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon, save for the death of Paul or Gene, I think they'll be doing what they do as long as they can.

ockzcottyn2 · 02-04-2013, 03:40 PM

I don't think KISS should necessarily retire, but I do agree about the false Ace & Peter are wrong and that they DEFINITELY should give Tommy and Eric they're own makeup & characters rather than just copying Ace & Peter.

neardeathexperience · 02-06-2013, 06:30 PM

When Kiss started out you just went to see them because they were a visual overload and a very very loud band that played hard rock. Fast forward 30 years they are still a visual overload and a band that plays very very loud music..........In fact the technology available now with computers running the visual back drops might suggest that they are even better to go see then in the 70s........

Jack in green · 02-13-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowSurfer

I think KISS should retire. The phony Peter and Ace take lame to a higher new level. And Gene $immons doesn't even like rock music, he likes money.

Yes! I agree! the time of the KISS is end by a long time!

by now they are a memories than they were

10-04-2012, 09:45 AM	#432 (permalink)
Franco Pepe Kalle Mwana Nzala Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Shakopee, Minnesota Posts: 627	I hate to say it but Kiss is a pretty decent with a good entertainer in Gene Simmons. He is one person that I have been able to tolerate for some time. Plus Gene Simmons has never lost his thunder. He has always been able to keep it. That is Kiss is still a good band even today. __________________ The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock. Girls are the sexy thing that God created. Important to notice FPK.

10-05-2012, 03:41 AM	#435 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Tbh if anyone has a career open and they have something they could make from themselves while being supported no matter the judgment, I doubt they would give it up. Unless they want a career change, which in this case no. It's very improbable. __________________ last.fm

10-05-2012, 11:21 AM	#437 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,766	I saw Kiss a few years ago, and while they were solid, my GF pointed out to me how silly Paul looked crawling around on the stage trying to look sexy. She's said "He's in his 60's for crying out loud!". That kind of struck a chord with me. But, that's just part of the act that the fans want to see. And there are plenty of em. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon, save for the death of Paul or Gene, I think they'll be doing what they do as long as they can. __________________ See location...

02-04-2013, 03:40 PM	#438 (permalink)
ockzcottyn2 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 11	I don't think KISS should necessarily retire, but I do agree about the false Ace & Peter are wrong and that they DEFINITELY should give Tommy and Eric they're own makeup & characters rather than just copying Ace & Peter.

02-06-2013, 06:30 PM	#439 (permalink)
neardeathexperience Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 531	When Kiss started out you just went to see them because they were a visual overload and a very very loud band that played hard rock. Fast forward 30 years they are still a visual overload and a band that plays very very loud music..........In fact the technology available now with computers running the visual back drops might suggest that they are even better to go see then in the 70s........