Sure thing Ethan.

Ah hell yeah, I did it. Did it perfect. I'm so awesome.
Um anyway, continue the debate.

If you listen to seven songs by Tool, then listen to seven other songs by Tool, it is not the same thing.

Simple - you can't criticize something you have yet to perceive.

An hour and five to ten minutes.

You might, you might not.

Music can change people's lives. I hated Tool at first, but once I really listened to them, they quickly became one of my favourite bands. I'm not saying the same will happen to everyone else, but it's always a possibility.

Judging from what you've stated about these seven songs, I said it's likely that the songs you heard were from two of Tool's earlier, less progressive albums.

So because you've written an essay about a boundary-breaking piece of music, you automatically know more than everyone else does about every other boundary-breaking genre or band out there? You know more about Igor Stravinsky than I do, and I know more about Tool than you do, but we're not arguing about Igor Stravinsky or any sort of classical music, are we?

Well, not if you are 'significantly incompetent' in that area like you allege I am in progressive rock/metal.

And which essay are you referring to exactly? When did I say anything about writing an essay?

And where does the word essay feature in that sentence? It doesn't. Not all exam papers are essays. Almost every music examination I've ever taken has involved either playing, listening to or writing music. In the case of listening tests, this involved understanding the pitches, textures and rhythms involved and how they relate to the music. These have been mostly specific questions to test how well you actually understand the music which is being played, how the notes relate to each other and how they show different influences and new ideas... not single essay topics designed for you to ramble to and to show how well you learnt your teacher's classroom spiel.

Maybe, although I'm not sure what form this knowledge takes when you have to cut and paste a quote from the drummer to say what time signatures his drumbeat is using instead of just listening to the song and telling us yourself.

Still need to here all the songs out of the album, but so far from what I herd I really loved it!

"Paper" is usually used as a slang term for an "essay" where I come from. Sorry.

I could have just said it, but I thought it'd be a bit more tenable if I typed out the entire excerpt. It wasn't cut-and-pasted.

tool = yawn


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