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jackhammer 01-03-2008 02:11 PM

:rofl:

I remember Elliot saying that Bowie and T-rex was the basis for their sound.

Music Resource 01-05-2008 11:32 AM

Def Leppard is a great band. On Through The Night has a few good tunes. I used to listen to Rock Brigade. The album doesn't have much of an edge to it though.

Their best album by far is High 'n' Dry. Every single tune on that CD rocks out big time. Timeless classic.

Pyromania has a lot of decent pop tunes.

I like the first half dozen tunes on Hysteria plus the song Hysteria.

I'd like to see them return to the High 'n' Dry sound. Great rhythm and leads. Great vocals. Drums are a bit more complex. That's one of my all time favorite albums.

MeltingPot 04-30-2008 12:25 PM

So my wife has me watching this god awful "Dancing With the Stars", which is totally unbearable were it not for a few hot female dancers...

Anyway, so Def Leppard is on to perform the other night and I figure that at least they have a halfway decent band playing which is better than watching this sh**y dancing with the annoying house band and they come out and LIP SYNC "Pour Some Sugar on Me"??!! Are you serious??? Def Leppard are a band that has managed to stay at least semi-relevant over the years, they have a pretty decent body of work and now they're Lip Syncing one of their big hits on the ***est show on TV. It was a total abomination and truly embarrassing, no matter what they were paid.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-30-2008 12:30 PM

The majority of bands don't get any say on whether they can play live or lip sync on a TV show , thats all up to the producers.

Besides , they lip synced that song on shows like Top Of The Pops when that song came out so it's hardly out of the ordinary.

Demonoid 04-30-2008 01:22 PM

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7206/finalpj0.th.gif

Only thing that was ok/decent was pyromania

MeltingPot 04-30-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 475006)
The majority of bands don't get any say on whether they can play live or lip sync on a TV show , thats all up to the producers.

Besides , they lip synced that song on shows like Top Of The Pops when that song came out so it's hardly out of the ordinary.

They absolutely have a say, they can say they're not going to do it (the show in general) because it comprimises their integrity!!

I can understand a bubblegum band or a band that's relatively new and trying to gain exposure lip syncing (like DL on TOTP), but there is absolutely no reason why a band like DL has to do this at this point in their career and if you reseach this a bit more on the web you'll see a lot of hardcore fans are totally outraged. While I think it's pathetic, I am not going to disown them for doing it, I just don't think it helped them at all and made them look pretty cheesy.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-30-2008 05:01 PM

New?

They'd been around for about a decade , had 4 albums out and had already gone multi-platinum around the world.

Lip syncing is a fact of television , always has always will. It has no bearing on the talent of the person doing it.

boo boo 04-30-2008 05:13 PM

IMO the only good that ever came out of pop metal is Van Halen (who were awesome, at least pre-Hagar, but at that point they were no longer metal and were basically Foreigner 2.0) and Def Leppard, who were at least decent by the standards of the genre. I mean Pyromania is a good album for parties.

If I ever hear Pour Some Sugar on Me again though, I might hurt somebody.

MeltingPot 04-30-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 475129)
New?

They'd been around for about a decade , had 4 albums out and had already gone multi-platinum around the world.

Lip syncing is a fact of television , always has always will. It has no bearing on the talent of the person doing it.

That's still irrelevant if they're breaking new ground (and reaching a wider audience that may actually buy their stuff), which a show like TOTP is to many bands regardless of when it happens in their career. It's an iconic venue/platform that has a big musical fan base so bands that do the show are not against doing something unnatural (lip syncing) I would guess. Still god awful in my opionion, but whatever.

And of course it has no connection to level of talent; Steve Vai or John McLaughlin could "fake" solos on Oprah or Ellen or DWTS or whatever, it doesn't mean they still can't play, however what would be the point? They are not seeking a wider audience for their music at this point. Def Leppard, at this late stage in their career, have nothing to prove and are not hurting for funds that I can imagine so I question why they do it. I understand why TV execs want to it, it's cheaper, easier, cleaner and less likely to cause problems.

boo boo 04-30-2008 10:04 PM

Yeah, I never understood syncing at concerts, if its someone like Michael Jackson then it makes sense, because he's dancing and stuff.

But when its just a rock band then no, there really is no excuse for it. If you don't have the balls to actually perform then whats the point? People come to see you to watch you play, not mimic the freaking album they already own.

Disturbed2008 08-11-2008 02:48 PM

def leppard are class i went watching them at the liverpool echo arena last month and they were amazin, rock on

The Unfan 08-11-2008 04:10 PM

80s radio rock fluff with a randomly good debut.

jackhammer 08-11-2008 04:39 PM

I shamefully think that 'Love Bites' is a damn good ballad. I know I know. In the morning I will be weeping into my cornflakes berating my lack of taste.

SATCHMO 08-11-2008 07:07 PM

I Can appreciate some Def leppard occasionally, but then again they were big when the pubes stated fillin' in, so i kinda' have a soft spoy for em'......Oh....did I say soft?

Mangus65 08-17-2008 07:57 PM

Yeah Def Leppard used to rock until they made the Hysteria album which was very pop. Too many girl songs not enough crunch.

Ace 08-28-2008 03:19 AM

Def Leppard pwns. Easily one of the best bands of the 80's, and all time for that matter. I was blasting them the other night in the sound booth. Probably could've heard it a mile down the road.

zekethefreak 09-11-2008 10:22 AM

HIGH'N'DRY, baby... HIGH and FREAKIN' DRY!! That was GOOD Def Leppard.

Fyrenza 09-19-2008 08:56 AM

yeah

high 'n' dry

i always liked bringing on the heartache

ubane 10-06-2008 09:19 PM

i like there remake of rock on

Astronomer 11-05-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 475006)
The majority of bands don't get any say on whether they can play live or lip sync on a TV show , thats all up to the producers.

To be honest, if I had already made a lot of money in a band I would not agree to go on a show if I had to lip sync. Even if the producers wanted it.

I've never really been into Def Leppard at all but my best friend saw them live in Melbourne a couple of days ago with Cheap Trick and said they were a pretty awesome and entertaining act to see live.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-06-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lateralus (Post 541092)
To be honest, if I had already made a lot of money in a band I would not agree to go on a show if I had to lip sync. Even if the producers wanted it.

But look at it from Def Leppard's perspective.

When was the last time that band had any sort of mainstream prime time exposure?

1987?
1988?

Nobody save a few diehard fans give a toss about anything you have done since , your album & ticket sales have plummeted through the floor and you're probably making hardly any money in the intervening 20 year period.....

And then you get a call to appear on prime time American TV.

You'd be a fucking idiot to turn that down whoever you are. Hell , Forget the money (Which probably wasn't that much anyway) you'd probably do it just to show that you're still around in the hope that it gets a few more bums on seats for your next tour.

Besides I don't see what the big deal is. Virtually all bands mime in music videos as well , how is that any different?

Astronomer 11-06-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 541220)
You'd be a fucking idiot to turn that down whoever you are. Hell , Forget the money (Which probably wasn't that much anyway) you'd probably do it just to show that you're still around in the hope that it gets a few more bums on seats for your next tour.

Besides I don't see what the big deal is. Virtually all bands mime in music videos as well , how is that any different?

To show that you're still around, but you're musical quality has deteriorated so you have to lip sync? Also, I think music videos are different - they are more like visual stimulation to place with the recorded song. Live performances, be them in concerts or television shows or whatever, are supposed to be a showcasing of a bands live talent and that's what makes live performances so special. That's why people go to see bands in concert, when they could just chuck on a music DVD instead, and why fans get disappointed when they find out they were lip syncing.

I dunno, I just don't think it's a very noble thing for a band to do, be them a new band or a old one. I guess it sucks if the producers insist on lip syncing, and it's ultimately not the band's decision, but I just don't approve of it.

Akira 11-26-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by strike-when-ready (Post 552346)
this has probly already been posted...but im not about to read through 7 pages of posts for that reason

What has 7 arms and sucks?


Def Leppard

If your post isn't of good enough quality to check whether it has been posted before or not, it isn't good enough to post at all!

FaSho 11-26-2008 01:15 PM

I thought it was a very good post.

Akira 11-26-2008 01:20 PM

Dont encourage the spammers FaSho.

Anteater 11-26-2008 01:46 PM

People actually listen to Def Leppard these days? Wowzah.

Hilary 11-26-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 552489)
People actually listen to Def Leppard these days? Wowzah.

Occasionally but I'm not big on them either.

dac 11-27-2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 552489)
People actually listen to Def Leppard these days? Wowzah.

Hair Metal hasn't gone away yet? Wowzah.

Son of JayJamJah 11-27-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 552347)
RE: What had 7arms and sucked? If your post isn't of good enough quality to check whether it has been posted before or not, it isn't good enough to post at all!

I asked myself as I opened the thread, what are the odds of a one armed joke being on this page, and I should have taken that bet.

Sister Ray 11-30-2008 10:39 PM

^ word to the one armed jokes!

This can't be for real. Def Leppard? Come on...

guitargirl_93 12-02-2008 09:41 PM

^Oh SHHH! Lol ;P I for one love them

Scarlett O'Hara 06-25-2009 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 505707)
I shamefully think that 'Love Bites' is a damn good ballad. I know I know. In the morning I will be weeping into my cornflakes berating my lack of taste.

I find that really cute! I personally still love them. Not as intensely as I did when I was 16, but I think they were brilliant for there time, and still love rocking out to:


Classof75 09-05-2009 06:21 AM

Just got into these guys. Never paid much attention to them back in the day, but after reading some reviews of the Pyromania Deluxe Edition (2nd disc is a fantastic live show from the tour), I picked this up. I have been told that this was their "peak", and next I should hear On Through The Night and High And Dry. I am going to get these also. They also put out an E.P. early on (on vinyl) which I would like to get.

CyberDisco 09-06-2009 01:20 PM

i saw them a while back, and they sound just as good as ever, in great shape too and rockin it hard

CyberDisco 09-06-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classof75 (Post 730288)
Just got into these guys. Never paid much attention to them back in the day, but after reading some reviews of the Pyromania Deluxe Edition (2nd disc is a fantastic live show from the tour), I picked this up. I have been told that this was their "peak", and next I should hear On Through The Night and High And Dry. I am going to get these also. They also put out an E.P. early on (on vinyl) which I would like to get.

Hysteria and Pyromania are just classic, amazing albums. You can't go wrong there. Other than that, the other songs are good, but those are the two best imo.

BigSwede 07-03-2011 09:03 AM

Great band up until the masterpiece Pyromania,after that they went downhill fast.

Unknown Soldier 07-03-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSwede (Post 1080133)
Great band up until the masterpiece Pyromania,after that they went downhill fast.

Pyromania was very good for its time, but has aged very badly as has most of Def Leppard`s music.

Q&M son 07-03-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1080140)
Pyromania was very good for its time

Fully agree with this one.

BigSwede 07-03-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1080140)
Pyromania was very good for its time, but has aged very badly as has most of Def Leppard`s music.

I still think it's a great rockalbum...:)

Q&M son 07-03-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSwede (Post 1080199)
I still think it's a great rockalbum...:)

Me too!


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