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View Poll Results: Beatles or Stones?
Beatles 11 57.89%
Stones 8 42.11%
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I pick The Beatles because I have a hard time telling Rolling Stones songs apart. So much for memorable, eh?
Well I guess to you. Memory isn't the same too every person. You got short term memory loss, long......
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I picked the Stones because of their memorable guitar riffs.
Exactly! The Stones invented the rhythm/lead guitar combination with Jones/Richards and perfected it when Mick Taylor arrived. They laid the foundation for thrash and death metal. Hetfield/Hammett, Cavalera/Kisser, Peterson/Skolnick, King/Hanneman all used the same rhythm guitarist and soloist setup. Not to mention Beggar Banquet, Let it Bleed, Get Your Ya Yas, Stickey Fingers, Exile on Main St., and It's Only Rock N Roll ... six consecutive masterpieces produced by the hottest band ever. In fact, they were on such a roll, they caused the collapse of a national government. Did I mention I pick the Stones?
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Exactly! The Stones invented the rhythm/lead guitar combination with Jones/Richards and perfected it when Mick Taylor arrived.
Nope, The Beatles and others did that before The Stones.

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They laid the foundation for thrash and death metal.
Sabbath, Zeppelin and Purple much more then the Stones, though the Stones did influence those three, but they took it to another level.

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Hetfield/Hammett, Cavalera/Kisser, Peterson/Skolnick, King/Hanneman all used the same rhythm guitarist and soloist setup.


Harrison and Lennon used it too, BEFORE Jones and Richards. And severel R&R performers did it before them.

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Not to mention Beggar Banquet, Let it Bleed, Get Your Ya Yas, Stickey Fingers, Exile on Main St., and It's Only Rock N Roll ... six consecutive masterpieces produced by the hottest band ever.
Hard Days Night, Beatles For Sale, Help!, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album and Abbey Road. If thats not a hell of a back catelog I don't know what is.

Even their worst album Let It Be was a generally good effort. As opposed to The Stones. Who haven't made a great album since Some Girls. Which is say what? Only 16 years into their 55 year career?

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Harrison and Lennon used it too, BEFORE Jones and Richards. And severel R&R performers did it before them.
Harrison was never considered a great soloist and consequently Beatle tunes are not remembered for their guitar work. Yes other bands had two guitarists, but it was the Stones who first featured a blues soloist and rhythm guitarists and structured their songs around them. When Taylor joined up, it was like the Stones getting Eric Clapton...their state of the art fret master. In fact it was the Stones who influenced the Beatles in this department when George and John started to jam Stones-like on the last song of Abbey Road, which was part of Lennon's scheme to try to bring the Beatles into the "purer" harder rock territory of the Stones.

The string of albums you mentioned are very respected, but compare the themes explored within them. On the one hand you got "Fixing a Hole", "Ticket to Ride", "Penny Lane", "She's Leaving Home", basically a bunch of sappy, banal, personal stuff, and on the other hand you got "Sympathy for the Devil", "Street Fighting Man", "Bitch" and "Brown Sugar", tough songs digging into the dark side of the human psyche which ushered in the dark era of rock n roll. The Stones were the first princes of Darkness and as you mentioned also paved the way for Sabbath, Zepplin and DP. The Stones and their "dark aura" dominated the 60's and 70's as well as still being influential today. I think it's obvious that in the mythically battle between good vs evil, between light and dark, between the Beatles and the Stones...the Stones have won.

But, if I was forced to boil it down to one thing, the Beatles don't have a song as good as "Satisfaction".

As far toppling a government, Maggie Trudeau, the first lady of Canada decided to ditch your husbands re-election campaign so she could get banged by Woodie.
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Harrison was never considered a great soloist
Maybe by people who have never listened to Something, or any of his solo material. Harrison was a fantastic soloist, thing is he was a very modest fellow, they didn't call him the quiet Beatle for nothing. He didn't want to ruin great songs with long drawn out solos, which are why his solos are always sweet and to the point. Compare that to Jones' solo on Sympathy for the Devil, which was stretched out too long and was sloppy beyond belief, some may like such an approach to guitar playing but for others it can ruin a good song.

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And consequently Beatle tunes are not remembered for their guitar work.
I disagree. They were not just acclaimed as songwriters, they were a tight ensemble of musicians as well. And it was their style of instrumentation that really made them stood out from other bands at the time. Day Tripper and Taxman are riffs that everybody recognises.

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Yes other bands had two guitarists, but it was the Stones who first featured a blues soloist and rhythm guitarists and structured their songs around them.
Yes, they are blues players. So they paved the way for the guys in Iron Maiden and Judas Priest how again?

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When Taylor joined up, it was like the Stones getting Eric Clapton
Taylor is good. But Eric Clapton he is not.

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...their state of the art fret master. In fact it was the Stones who influenced the Beatles in this department when George and John started to jam Stones-like on the last song of Abbey Road, which was part of Lennon's scheme to try to bring the Beatles into the "purer" harder rock territory of the Stones.
The Mothers of Invention greatly influenced Sgt Pepper, does this make them better than The Beatles too?

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The string of albums you mentioned are very respected, but compare the themes explored within them. On the one hand you got "Fixing a Hole", "Ticket to Ride", "Penny Lane", "She's Leaving Home", basically a bunch of sappy, banal, personal stuff, and on the other hand you got "Sympathy for the Devil", "Street Fighting Man", "Bitch" and "Brown Sugar", tough songs digging into the dark side of the human psyche which ushered in the dark era of rock n roll.
Happiness is a Warm Gun anyone?

The Beatles wrote a lot of dark tracks for The White Album. And nothing really comes close to the rawness of John Lennons solo records.

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The Stones were the first princes of Darkness and as you mentioned also paved the way for Sabbath, Zepplin and DP. The Stones and their "dark aura" dominated the 60's and 70's as well as still being influential today. I think it's obvious that in the mythically battle between good vs evil, between light and dark, between the Beatles and the Stones...the Stones have won.
I don't care how satanic they are, how does this make them better than The Beatles?

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But, if I was forced to boil it down to one thing, the Beatles don't have a song as good as "Satisfaction".


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As far toppling a government, Maggie Trudeau, the first lady of Canada decided to ditch your husbands re-election campaign so she could get banged by Woodie.
Thats not quite "toppling" the Canadian goverment though.
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I love both bands, but purely for being experimental I have to choose the Beatles.
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I refuse to choose.

I like the "Dirtyness" or the "Working Class" sound in the stones and typically that's what a lot of my music leans to, but I like the beatles innovative, experimental side. Personally, If I was kickin about the London streets in the late sixties, I'd do my best to see them both and I bet that most of you would.
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The Beatles by a long shot.
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