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View Poll Results: Who deserves the title "The King of Rock and Roll"?
Elvis Presley 101 42.26%
Chuck Berry 71 29.71%
Little Richard 12 5.02%
Neither 55 23.01%
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:45 PM   #341 (permalink)
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What is the problem? If rock n roll is a mix of black and white? Without country music influence there would not be rock and without blues influence (and gospel and whatever) there would not be rock.

And when it comes to the topic of this thread, how can we decide who was the most important one? I dunno.

And John Lennon was a paradox to end all the other paradoxes and changed his opinions as usually as other people change their trousers so they shouldn't be taken very seriously.

I liked to hear your perspectives on the matter because originally you posted that African Americans created Rock n Roll and not Elvis. I liked to know why did you suddenly change your perspective to blacks and whites both creating the genre.
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I didn't said so. I said "Elvis didn't invent anything". Think about it that way: Chuck Berry was a big country music fan, Buddy Holly's songs are clearly influenced by country, Everly Brothers nearly were friggin' country and so on. It is not so plain. That's what I'm saying.
Rock N Roll wasn't born in a one night.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:42 AM   #343 (permalink)
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It has nothing to do with inventing anything. Elvis brought Rock N' Roll into prominence and that's that.
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That could be true, but that wasn't my point? Elvis may have been very important figure but it will not make me appreciate his music more. His early recordings are awesome, though.
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That wasn't exactly a response to you, more towards the entire debate. Sorry for the mislead.
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No prob,my bad.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:47 PM   #347 (permalink)
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I didn't said so. I said "Elvis didn't invent anything". Think about it that way: Chuck Berry was a big country music fan, Buddy Holly's songs are clearly influenced by country, Everly Brothers nearly were friggin' country and so on. It is not so plain. That's what I'm saying.
Rock N Roll wasn't born in a one night.

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Except Elvis did not invent anything. Blacks were doing it before.
That is what you said.... but I get your point. I still think blacks never get their full credit when it comes to certain things. I don't think rock n roll was born in one night either just believe black musicians were the original pioneers.
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It has nothing to do with inventing anything. Elvis brought Rock N' Roll into prominence and that's that.
Pretty much. Like I said, there was no invention, he certainly didn't, since he wasn't even a songwriter and wasn't exactly a great musician. He's the king because he's the most important figure. There's absolutely no way you can make the argument that Elvis wasn't the most prominent force in music at the time, and rock specifically. His sales records and chart performance speak for themselves.

As for the actual foundation of rock, I definitely think there were artists making music that is similar before Elvis, I've said that several times when discussing the issue, but they were both black AND white, and there are a lot of examples of each. I don't think you can really prove the argument that it was pioneered more by one ethnicity than another, but you certainly can prove that the foundation was there in both cultures before 1954.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:37 PM   #349 (permalink)
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Is that really rock n' roll though? I mean, I admire those guys, but I would never consider them part of rock n' roll.

I think there is a definite list, but Monkey certainly didn't cover enough.
If Johnny B. Goode isn't rock n' roll, I'm not sure what is. Sounds very similar to Rock Around the Clock, which everyone agrees is rock n' roll.
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The one they call The King~Elvis Presley
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