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Old 09-04-2010, 07:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Going back to the whole studio vs live thing, most bands I like and listen to would rather not polish their sound. A lot of bands actually go for a lo-fi sound, because it's "cool". They basically use the lo-fi production to blanket the quality of songs. Some bands however decide to have an unpolished album, yet the quality of song writing is still good. Some artists may choose to have their music more polished, and if it sounds good on the record but they can't quite produce that sound live then so be it. One of my favourite bands, The Smiths for example. Johnny Marr could never quite recreate that guitar sound on How Soon Is Now? from the album version. He didn't know how he got that sound. Does that mean he lacked talent because he couldn't quite recreate that sound live? No. Same applies to many bands.

I didn't mean to come across as an arse, but it annoys me because it's so easy to look at Justin Bieber, JLS and Lady Gaga and totally write off music from the 00s. I don't think it comes down to personal preference, if I'm honest I don't know if I could pick a favourite decade. I think there's so much music out there, and only concentrating on a certain period (whether it's the 60s or 70s) limits yourself dramatically.

Floyd bores me to tears. I thought you'd be into The Who, The Doors, The Stones etc.
Usually Floyd follows that list.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:57 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I should have been born in 65-70 so I could've grown up in the 80s, because that decade was so my style!
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:38 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Well, if your problem with computers stems from the use of them in Electronic based music/Hip-Hop, then that's just silly. Listen to Aphex Twin - Richard D James album or DJ Shadow - Entroducing, absolutely brilliant music. Unless you're just writing off entire genres based on what you hear in the charts, commercial Hip-Hop then that's a bit silly. I think it's only okay to write off a genre once you've explored it. I'm guessing by the bands you're into, you're very anti Hip-Hop and anti Electronica, but I'd guess you haven't given it much of a chance? (Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm just make wild assumptions.)

I used to be the same as you. I used to like "plug in and play" bands, none of this synth stuff, none of this electronic based stuff. Even though I'm not a connoisseur of the music, by any means I still like bits of it and I can appreciate. You should broaden your horizons and step out of the 70s
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:23 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I get really depressed looking back at all the amazing shows and festivals back in the day which I would've loved to have gone to. But I'm happy right now, I'm still able to listen to the music though which is even more than enough so I wouldn't class myself as being born in the wrong generation as such.

Late 80s, the entire 90s and early 00's were amazing amazing years for music. <3
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:25 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I think the bottom line is, you have issues with Pop stars who use technology to make themselves sound better? That doesn't mean modern music is bad, it means that some parts of it is bad. A lot of modern bands don't use the things that are available to them, because they want a more pure sound. A lot of proper artists will choose to use certain things available to them in the studio, and ignore others - and that's fine. I think we had our wires crossed, because I thought you meant technology is bad full stop. But you did mention Hip-Hop... I don't think there's anything wrong with technology in genres like Hip-Hop and Techno. You weren't clear on that, I thought you were just writing it off all together. If the likes of Justin Bieber who have very little talent want to make themselves sound good through using autotune or whatever, then good luck to them. Modern music transcends that, because a lot of modern artists would never do that. I just think it's really quite easy to look at all the bad and judge it without really focusing on the good.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:31 AM   #56 (permalink)
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actually, today's music is pretty good. Though, I wish I was born in the Eighties so I could appreciate all of the great dance/IDM and Avant-Rock of the nineties. that would have been awesome!

but yet again, back then, there wasn't much filesharing so music would have been hard to find
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:56 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I'm set in my ways? Aren't you the one who came into this thread saying "I hate my generation, all a bunch of lazy no talent."

Now you've turned round and said you're not bashing current rock music? I thought they were ALL a bunch of lazy no talent?

I didn't offer you How Soon Is Now to prove current music isn't crap, I offered you How Soon Is Now to show you that despite getting that great sound in the studio, they couldn't recreate that sound live. Which was part of the problem for you (people making music through computers, but they couldn't transfer that sound to live events)

You've gathered from me I think virtually all music is worthy of excellence? Urm, what? I think there's good stuff in every decade, as well as bad stuff. If that's me thinking "all music is worthy of excellence" then so be it.

And modern music isn't filled with things you're preaching against. Like I said before, loads of bands are true to their roots but hypothetically... let's say music evolved and artists took advantage of technology a whole lot more than they are doing now. If there's substance to their songs, would you be against it because they base their sound solely on computers?
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:27 AM   #58 (permalink)
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"I hate my generation, all a bunch of lazy no talent."

And I'm the ignorant one?

I've never actually said "weed the bad out", so stop quoting that. I said ignore the bad, and focus on the good.
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Today's music really isn't that bad. The underground and the indie scene has a lot of good stuff...

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Today's music really isn't that bad. The underground and the indie scene has a lot of good stuff...

Like Post-Rock
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