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Old 10-21-2010, 08:51 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I would have liked to visit the 70's more actually. Maybe late 60's-early 70's.
I guess it would be OK to visit because of the music, but society in the late 60s did not contain not all the glamour one might think by just watching Woodstock on TV, the on going war in Vietnam at the time had the country in an uproar along with the civil rights movement, I remember when the four college students were killed at Kent State University here in Ohio by our own National Guard, or you could have been one of the unlucky few that did LSD in the late 60s and never came back from the trip, which LSD at the time was very closely related to music itself.
My era was the 70s, bands like Black Sabbath, Rush, Yes, etc. and on the other hand there were bands like Earth, Wind, & Fire. and so on.
The Cold War, played the big role in the 70s, I remember schools having drills in case of a nuclear attack, that was very scary at the time, all they told you to do was to just simply get under your desk, (and I guess just kiss your arse goodbye).
So just be glad at where you are right now in history, where college students just kill each other, instead of having the government involved.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:56 PM   #82 (permalink)
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But Guns n Roses and Audioslave are current/recent bands? Surely you would`ve had plenty of opportunity to see them.
Guns n Roses as in the real guns n roses with the original line up and Im only 17 I did not start getting into audioslave until i was about like 15 and they are broken up.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:21 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Im only 17 I did not start getting into audioslave until i was about like 15 and they are broken up.
That's hardly a case of being "born in the wrong generation" though.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:57 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I loveee justin bieber tho!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:55 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Maybe the distant future (i.e. 1000 years) is best? Who knows what music will be around, if we still are...
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:00 PM   #86 (permalink)
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The idea that the 60's were better than now is so infuriating.

How are there less hippies now? Do you want to live in the 1960's or just get laid?
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:15 PM   #87 (permalink)
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The idea that the 60's were better than now is so infuriating.

How are there less hippies now? Do you want to live in the 1960's or just get laid?
I think the 60's were better than now. It's not really a commentary on how great I think the 60's were' but more on what an identity crisis the music of today has. I know there's a lot of great stuff going on right now musically, but it seems so detached from anything remotely "now", historically or otherwise. I just seems to be the regurgitation of the culmination of 60 years of pop culture coupled with a short attention span.

I will say that the 60's, at least the psychedelic era, corresponded with a massive expansion in our culture's consciousness, which was also very closely tied, and compounded by the first war in human history where real-time media exposure brought an awareness to all the injustices that were occurring all around us.

I don't think that outside of that context, the music of the 60's was any better or worse than the music of today. I just think it had a more cultural and historical relevance, if not more substance.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:25 PM   #88 (permalink)
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MORE SUBSTANCE!

On the grounds of what? They really saw the acid monster drinking coffee at their table, telling them how the solo ought to be played?

I think, if you'd like to have a worthwhile debate, you're going to need to expound on the idea that today's music is nothing more than avian worm-vomit coupled with a short attention span.

Suffice to say, dear friend, I couldn't disagree more.
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My perception of the difference between the 60s and today was that there was a lot of awesome music that was also mainstream music. You could hold a conversation about the great bands of the day with just about any other teenager. If I go into one of my classes here and try to start a conversation with somebody about how great the last two Dinosaur Jr. releases have been I'm gonna get a lot of blank stares because there just aren't that many kids listening to modern rock music anymore.

Again, just my perception. Feel free to straighten me out...
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On the grounds of what? They really saw the acid monster drinking coffee at their table, telling them how the solo ought to be played?

I think, if you'd like to have a worthwhile debate, you're going to need to expound on the idea that today's music is nothing more than avian worm-vomit coupled with a short attention span.

Suffice to say, dear friend, I couldn't disagree more.
First, I love avian worm vomit, That's beautiful... I wish I'd thought of it myself, however the context in which I was asserting that today's music was, "... the regurgitation of the culmination of 60 years of pop culture coupled with a short attention span." wasn't an indictment of contemporary music itself, beyond the fact that I'm asserting that it's not as closely tied to it's own particular time and place in history as much as a lot of the music that was created in the 60's was, but let's take a look at that.

There's a lot of music that was created in the 60's that was blandly unexceptional. You don't hear many people extolling the virtues of Boots Randolph and his Yakety Sax, but whether you're a huge fan of 60's psychedelia, or not, and, I'm really not, You have to understand that the late 60's was a tipping point in the expansion of our cultural and conscious awareness and one of the primary ways that that awareness was manifested was through the music that was being created during that time period. It was a very interesting and unprecedented time in our history.

Conversely, each subsequent era of music following the 60's has brought with it a new layer of musical and cultural influences, and each subsequent decade has also been affected by the compounding saturation of media influence in our lives which constantly jockeys for our attention. We are living in a time where our immediate cultural zeitgeist is the dizzying gumbo of everything that is and has been influencing our awareness since the sixties.

But really, There are a lot of things that make the 60's as relevant as they were. The impact of televised media was still relatively fresh and new and it's immediate impact on our awareness was full on and largely uncontrolled by the powers that be. The music industry was burgeoning. Rock & roll was a relatively new musical paradigm. The LP format had recently just become the default standard musical medium, and because of this advent, artists were releasing full length albums and creating long more cohesive musical suites precisely for that purpose. The art of studio overdubbing, invented and perfected by Les Paul, was being used to allow musicians to do things in the studio that would have, until that point, been otherwise impossible, including many of the psychedelic effects that many were experimenting with, Musicians were being much more influenced by what was possible and less by what the generation before it had done.

And on top of this, we were presented with a war, which for the first time in our history, wasn't just presented to us in typographic headlines on the front pages of a newspaper. We were inundated with images of unprecedented brutality and suffering and we, as a culture who had not seen anything remotely like it before, who had not yet been completely numbed from sensationalism being the order of the day, were deeply affected by it, and we reacted to it, among other ways, through song.

So, I'm not over here rocking' some tie die and extolling the virtues of all things peace, love, and psilocybin, (well, actually, that last part, I am). I do love me some Grateful Dead, but that's about the extent of it. And I don't think that today's music sucks at all. I own and love a lot of it. I just think that we are creating music from the foundation of a very overused paradigm, a 50 year old paradigm. There are many artists, both new and old, who have abandoned that paradigm for their own, and it's usually their music that I appreciate the most, but I do think we will be seeing another cultural and artistic tipping point very soon which will make the 60's seem as bland and uneventful as a dusty Boots Randolph record.
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