Born in the wrong generation

djchameleon · 02-13-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Appreciate the clarifacation Janz...dont always agree on other topics but your posts are always well worded and sound. I just didnt know if the mainstream hate somehow stemmed from the assumption of the artists being sell outs and playing for the dollar. As opposed to playing for the love of music so to speak. Which I know does happen but doesnt necessarily mean that they all are. Personaly I dont favor one over the other but thats just me. Anyways you answered my question thanks.

oh I'm pretty sure some people hate the mainstream for being sellouts and playing for the dollar as well. I agree with you about not favor one over the other. I'm heavily into listening to so much music that sometimes yes I will listen to crappy/bad music that just in turn happens to be mainstream as well. I just really hate how people go from "oh it's mainstream." to meaning that "well if it's popular and mainstream that automatically means that it is terribad". That type of elitism that I find here on the forums is just straight up stupid imo. You claim to be open minded to music but then you turn around and shut out all artists that are mainstream.

TockTockTock · 02-13-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

oh I'm pretty sure some people hate the mainstream for being sellouts and playing for the dollar as well. I agree with you about not favor one over the other. I'm heavily into listening to so much music that sometimes yes I will listen to crappy/bad music that just in turn happens to be mainstream as well. I just really hate how people go from "oh it's mainstream." to meaning that "well if it's popular and mainstream that automatically means that it is terribad". That type of elitism that I find here on the forums is just straight up stupid imo. You claim to be open minded to music but then you turn around and shut out all artists that are mainstream.

Most people don't like mainstream because it's played a lot on the radio. When certain music receives as much air time as mainstream artists do, then it gets boring after a while. So, people dive deeper down into music to find musicians who aren't quite as recognized as mainstream ones are. Is mainstream bad? No, that's just idiotic and nonsensical to to label a vast set of music as horrible (or "terribad" in your case - great word). Do I like it? Not really. I like old mainstream stuff, but very little new. I remember finding "Viva la Vida" to be a good song and then the radio play it over and over again to the point where I now hate it.

djchameleon · 02-13-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Most people don't like mainstream because it's played a lot on the radio. When certain music receives as much air time as mainstream artists do, then it gets boring after a while. So, people dive deeper down into music to find musicians who aren't quite as recognized as mainstream ones are. Is mainstream bad? No, that's just idiotic and nonsensical to to label a vast set of music as horrible (or "terribad" in your case - great word). Do I like it? Not really. I like old mainstream stuff, but very little new. I remember finding "Viva la Vida" to be a good song and then the radio play it over and over again to the point where I now hate it.

yeah that's understandable. The easiest solution for that though is to not listen to the radio. I know that's not possible for some people because their jobs like to have the radio tuned into top 40 stations but if you can avoid listening to the radio like it's the plague. That's the way I do it and i'm fine listening to mainstream artists because of that. A majority of the time anyways, they never take the good songs from the album of mainstream artists to make as a single to play on the radio.

**Janszoon** · 02-13-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

yeah that's understandable. The easiest solution for that though is to not listen to the radio. I know that's not possible for some people because their jobs like to have the radio tuned into top 40 stations but if you can avoid listening to the radio like it's the plague. That's the way I do it and i'm fine listening to mainstream artists because of that. A majority of the time anyways, they never take the good songs from the album of mainstream artists to make as a single to play on the radio.

I basically never listen to the radio as well. The end result for me is I generally have no clue how popular various bands are. Sometimes I'm shock by how popular or not popular certain bands I like are.

TockTockTock · 02-17-2011, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I basically never listen to the radio as well. The end result for me is I generally have no clue how popular various bands are. Sometimes I'm shock by how popular or not popular certain bands I like are.

NPR is the only station I listen to. Although, when looking up music on the internet, I sometimes get an idea of how popular certain music is judging by the amount of views, comments, etc found on youtube or last.fm. That or I see what people say about the music on this site.

Howard the Duck · 02-17-2011, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

yeah that's understandable. The easiest solution for that though is to not listen to the radio. I know that's not possible for some people because their jobs like to have the radio tuned into top 40 stations but if you can avoid listening to the radio like it's the plague. That's the way I do it and i'm fine listening to mainstream artists because of that. A majority of the time anyways, they never take the good songs from the album of mainstream artists to make as a single to play on the radio.

the only way I can tolerate radio is switching from a station with mainly classic rock, one with hits from recent years and one with current hits

otherwise I can't tolerate any one station for a prolonged period of time

which is to say even older popular songs in the classic rock era grates on me after a while

starrynight · 03-14-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

oh I'm pretty sure some people hate the mainstream for being sellouts and playing for the dollar as well. I agree with you about not favor one over the other. I'm heavily into listening to so much music that sometimes yes I will listen to crappy/bad music that just in turn happens to be mainstream as well. I just really hate how people go from "oh it's mainstream." to meaning that "well if it's popular and mainstream that automatically means that it is terribad". That type of elitism that I find here on the forums is just straight up stupid imo. You claim to be open minded to music but then you turn around and shut out all artists that are mainstream.

There's mainstream mainstream and there is mainstream underground.

Then there is everything else which is relatively little known within it's own genre or is just a relatively small supported genre.