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View Poll Results: Worst of these late 70's bands
Styx 16 28.57%
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:33 PM   #191 (permalink)
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Put on Crime of the Century, Batty. If you don't like "School" and "Bloody Well Right", I'll eat my hat.

EDIT: Chula, my man! I'd have said Even in the Quietest Moments… but "Give a Little Bit" might start things on the wrong note for him.
The song "Crime of the Century" is really one of the most amazing songs from its time. In general I always preferred the Roger Hodgson material over that of Rick Davies, but Rick Davies was at his very best here.
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:39 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Fans of Crime should really read this:

http://www.amazon.com/Abbey-Road-Zig.../dp/0739078585

He was behind the board for that album and provides some amazing insight into how it got made.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:17 PM   #193 (permalink)
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The song "Crime of the Century" is really one of the most amazing songs from its time. In general I always preferred the Roger Hodgson material over that of Rick Davies, but Rick Davies was at his very best here.
I have no idea what band(s) you're referring to.

And I saw your PMs, US. Was already digging on Toto IV when I saw it. Sweetness. They do have a bit of an eclectic sound, even if they're not as diverse as Fleetwood.
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And I saw your PMs, US. Was already digging on Toto IV when I saw it. Sweetness. They do have a bit of an eclectic sound, even if they're not as diverse as Fleetwood.
Toto are more diverse than Buckingham/Nicks era Fleetwood Mac, I thought you were listening to their debut which is diverse, Toto IV is not really diverse at all, just famous
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Toto are more diverse than Buckingham/Nicks era Fleetwood Mac, I thought you were listening to their debut which is diverse, Toto IV is not really diverse at all, just famous
I was listening to the debut at first. Their influences were more low key, whereas Fleetwood Mac wore theirs on their sleeves -- blues rock, folk, and country -- which made for a more overtly eclectic sound overall. They also beat the pants off of Toto as far as ballads go.
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I was listening to the debut at first. Their influences were more low key, whereas Fleetwood Mac wore theirs on their sleeves -- blues rock, folk, and country -- which made for a more overtly eclectic sound overall. They also beat the pants off of Toto as far as ballads go.
If you knew the discography of Steely Dan you'd know that's where a huge amount of Toto's sound actually came from. Steely Dan were in my mind very low key, in that no one instrument or style of music overly dominated their sound, as they had real ability in merging everything together. Toto did something similar especially on their debut, as the debut features soft rock, hard rock, jazz, soul, R&B and prog but it's not always easy to detect these sounds on a first or second listen, unless of course you're really focused on it

As for ballads Toto had four vocalists to the three of Fleetwood Mac, whereas ballad duties were shared by the Fleetwood Mac vocalists, Toto only went really with one on their ballads, which means that if the listener doesn't dig Steve Lukather's vocals then he/she's probably not going to like the Toto ballads. The listener though has a choice of three with FM. Personally I'd put the ballads by both bands on an equal footing quality wise.

For example "99" and "I Won't Hold You Back" are pretty special ballads.
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The song "Crime of the Century" is really one of the most amazing songs from its time. In general I always preferred the Roger Hodgson material over that of Rick Davies, but Rick Davies was at his very best here.
Agreed on both counts, although Rick Davies was a better pianist IMO.

Once he's done with Supertramp, Batty needs to hear Steely Dan and Ambrosia--maybe the Alan Parsons Project too.

And this whole conversation has reminded me to check out Toto. I've been meaning to listen along, as it were, to Anteater and your journal.
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maybe the Alan Parsons Project too.
Pet Sounds, my man! Was just checking in to mention I Robot. One of the best albums of the late 70s IMO as far as songwriting and uber production goes.

Parsons was of course the dude behind the engineering and production of Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

I Robot is an amazing headphones album - especially with some herb involved.

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Agreed on both counts, although Rick Davies was a better pianist IMO.

Once he's done with Supertramp, Batty needs to hear Steely Dan and Ambrosia--maybe the Alan Parsons Project too.

And this whole conversation has reminded me to check out Toto. I've been meaning to listen along, as it were, to Anteater and your journal.
I'm gonna be honest - I hate all of these bands. I like Fleetwood Mac a little though. I guess Batty is just more open-minded than me.
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I'm gonna be honest - I hate all of these bands. I like Fleetwood Mac a little though. I guess Batty is just more open-minded than me.
I'm sorry, I couldn't quite hear you. Could you say it louder and into the tape recorder?
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