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Mvzly 06-12-2019 04:14 AM

Beatles or Hendrix?
 
The Beatles and Hendrix are both legendary. But the real question is, which one is better? I can’t decide, I’ll leave it up to you guys. :wavey:

Oriphiel 06-12-2019 10:33 AM

Saucerful of Bendrix

Dude111 06-14-2019 11:36 AM

Jimi!!!!!!!!!!!

Frownland 06-14-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 2061145)
Jimi!!!!!!!!!!!

Ye

The Beatles were a talented and creative group at the right place at the right time. Hendrix was a revolutionary force of nature.

OccultHawk 06-14-2019 11:56 AM

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Hendrix was a revolutionary force of nature.
Church

Oriphiel 06-14-2019 11:58 AM

Helter Skelter >

OccultHawk 06-14-2019 12:10 PM

Hendrix on acid > John Lennon on acid

Frownland 06-14-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2061180)
I prefer Beatles and Lennon sorry not sorry

Racist.

OccultHawk 06-14-2019 12:27 PM

Technically they’re both unassailable

In those cases we have to turn to the Freak Fighter Forty

OccultHawk 06-14-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2061183)
Racist.

Fair

Oriphiel 06-14-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 2061165)
Helter Skelter >

.

Psy-Fi 06-14-2019 12:35 PM

Whole Lotta Helter Skelter...




Plankton 06-14-2019 12:48 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZbXPscPdD8

Bedlam Ballroom 06-14-2019 01:08 PM

Once the question is "which one is better", I'm gonna take that technically and stick with Hendrix, by far a better musician to me.

mr dave 07-17-2019 05:30 PM

Cream.

Plankton 07-18-2019 10:00 AM

One man vs an entire band of men. Ok, lessee here...

Jimi was good on guitar, and I've never heard him on any other instrument, but his songwriting was depressing af. He 'borrowed' a lot from other artists too. The Beatles were extremely proficient songwriters and blazed a musical trail of their own.

So given that knowledge, on a scale from 1-5, with 5 being great and 1 being crap, here's my ratings:

Bass
Jimi=0 | Paul=3

Drums
Jimi=0 | Ringo=2

Vocals
Jimi=2 | John/Paul/George/Ringo=4

Guitar
Jimi=4 | George/John/Paul=3

Overall Songwriting
Jimi=3 | Beatles=5

Jimi=9
Beatles=17

Lisnaholic 07-18-2019 05:24 PM

^ Hey, I like the idea of reducing the vexing question of "better" to a system of numbers. That's science!

My personal preference is for the Beatles material, but as you point out, there were four of them contributing to the whole, whereas Hendrix, afaik, didn't get a lot of creative help from his band.

When it comes to guitar pyrotechnics, Hendrix is a clear winner, but John Lennon, I recently learned, was quite a sly craftsman on guitar:-


Frownland 07-18-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2066278)
Guitar
Jimi=4/5

wtf Plank

OccultHawk 07-18-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2066349)
^ Hey, I like the idea of reducing the vexing question of "better" to a system of numbers. That's science!

My personal preference is for the Beatles material, but as you point out, there were four of them contributing to the whole, whereas Hendrix, afaik, didn't get a lot of creative help from his band.

When it comes to guitar pyrotechnics, Hendrix is a clear winner, but John Lennon, I recently learned, was quite a sly craftsman on guitar:-


That guy sucks at the guitar.

OccultHawk 07-18-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2066351)
wtf Plank

lol

Plankton 07-19-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2066351)
wtf Plank

wut?

Not impressed with a lot of his wankery, actually. Sure, he could feel his way through a lot of what he did, but technically there's way better imo. There's never been a moment in my life where I've said to myself: "You know... I think I'll listen to some Hendrix today". If I hear a Hendrix tune come on the radio, I change the station. I just don't care for his music, but I do recognize his abilities on the guitar, hence the 4.

Frownland 07-19-2019 10:17 AM

That is a you problem. Hendrix is a 12 on that scale, at least. You'll come around.

Plankton 07-19-2019 10:29 AM

phhht lol no I won't

I've done this dance way too many times already. Consider it like the TH and the OS argument except I've heard every JH tune there is in existence, and I just don't care for any of it.

Frownland 07-19-2019 10:31 AM

So it's definitely a you problem.

Say what you will about the songwriting or style, but his playing is impeccable. No ifs ands or buts about it.

Plankton 07-19-2019 10:35 AM

Is it? That's great.

debaserr 07-24-2019 11:15 PM

Technical skill =/= good music

Beatles

I like Jimi but come on.

Frownland 07-24-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2067760)
Technical skill =/= good music

100%, but what's that got to do with Hendrix?

debaserr 07-24-2019 11:21 PM

Beatles made much better music? And Hendrix, relative to any single Beatle, had much more technical skill.

Frownland 07-24-2019 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2067763)
Beatles made much better music?

Since you asked: they're obviously great but the Experience albums are impeccable outside of a couple of filler tracks. Hendrix's style just nails it, man. I'm the last person to make that argument that technical skill = quality, but I won't deny that skills used effectively can be amazing. The Beatles were technically brilliant songwriters, but technical ability =/= quality my dude.

debaserr 07-24-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2067766)
The Beatles were technically brilliant songwriters, but technical ability =/= quality my dude.

Huh? I've never heard people ever talk about "technical songwriting". It's not a physical process (that can be performed live), it's a mental one.

Would you be so kind as to cite your favorite Jimi songs? I admit, my knowledge on him is quite stale, and my personal discography of his has deteriorated over the years, as I kind of stopped listening to him in my early 20s. The songs of his that I do still have are pretty unremarkable.

EDIT: 5000 posts @ 1.25 / day since 08-12-2008. Woo arbitrary number.

Mindfulness 07-25-2019 03:41 PM

voted for The Beatles

Frownland 07-25-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2067768)
Huh? I've never heard people ever talk about "technical songwriting". It's not a physical process (that can be performed live), it's a mental one.

I was being ironic.

Quote:

Would you be so kind as to cite your favorite Jimi songs? I admit, my knowledge on him is quite stale, and my personal discography of his has deteriorated over the years, as I kind of stopped listening to him in my early 20s. The songs of his that I do still have are pretty unremarkable.

EDIT: 5000 posts @ 1.25 / day since 08-12-2008. Woo arbitrary number.
If 6 Was 9, Bold as Love, Castles Made of Sand, Machine Gun, and Manic Depression are my top Hendrix tracks.

OccultHawk 07-26-2019 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2067956)
Manic Depression is sickk

It’s a frustrating mess!

That’s a great pick

youdoofus 07-26-2019 08:56 AM

Hendrix... eff the beatles, hate that band

atimnie 10-26-2019 06:34 AM

The Beatles beat Hendrix. Technical skill aside, the Beatles are simply just more listenable on their worst day than Hendrix was on his best. Star Spangled Banner and Revolution 9 being the obvious exceptions to that.

Eleanor Rigby 14 01-12-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 2066164)
Cream.

Agree, Clapton is God, he's the only one who would deserve 5/5.

Jimi Hendrix took the electric guitar to another level. The Beatles took popular music to another level. So I'm gonna go with The Beatles on this one.

ando here 01-12-2021 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mvzly (Post 2060781)
The Beatles and Hendrix are both legendary. But the real question is, which one is better? I can’t decide, I’ll leave it up to you guys. :wavey:

Why is this a decision?

debaserr 01-12-2021 02:28 PM

Because they felt like asking it and discussing.

ando here 01-13-2021 01:50 AM

And I feel it’s a dumb choice. Both are great.

debaserr 01-13-2021 07:53 AM

Feel free to not comment or read about "dumb choices" in the future.


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