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SATCHMO 09-04-2005 12:48 AM

Steely Dan
 
I'd forgotten how much I love these guys till I found a crate with a bunch of their records at my mom's this weekend. What possessed me to leave them there? Oh well, who else likes em' ?

boo boo 09-06-2005 04:36 AM

I do...Aja kicks serious ass.

boris jawaka 09-06-2005 05:47 PM

i love steely dan
you know they got there name from a brand of condom?

SATCHMO 09-06-2005 06:14 PM

Actually there name comes from the name of a vibrator in William Burroughs' book Naked Lunch.

boris jawaka 09-06-2005 09:20 PM

ahh! i stand corrected

New-England-Clam-Chodah 09-06-2005 09:23 PM

ooo I love William Burrough, and steely dan. I especialy love the fez. If for nothing more than it's such a bizzare fetish.

pinkbunnies 09-06-2005 10:37 PM

I read Naked Lunch after I read somewhere that Steely Dan got their name from a "device" in that novel, not knowing what the device was. I couldn't get through the book because of the stream of consciousness/drugged up writing style, but it was interesting to learn what a Steely Dan is.

Anyone checked out http://steelydan.com/siteguide.html?

This "Steely Dan" dictionary to their lyrics is great!
http://members.aol.com/danomalley/steelydan/

boo boo 09-06-2005 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO
Actually there name comes from the name of a vibrator in William Burroughs' book Naked Lunch.

Really?, i sware that the bands origin came from a steel ***** that one of their groupies would bring backstage. :confused:

EDIT:Haha i can't say dil'do.

ProggyMan 05-28-2008 06:43 PM

Come on folks! I'm getting Coming Up Roses into them though. Rankings after I went through my CD collection last night:
Katy Lied
Countdown To Ecstasy
Pretzel Logic
Can't Buy A Thrill
Aja
Gaucho
The Royal Scam

ProggyMan 05-28-2008 08:11 PM

TBH I haven't listened to anything after Alive In America (Which is a decent live album).

ProggyMan 05-29-2008 05:57 PM

I'll check it out. Yah I get the feeling I'm alone in like Alive.

boo boo 05-29-2008 06:35 PM

Steely Dan is great, Aja and Pretzel Logic are fantastic albums.

Jeff Baxter was a pretty sweet guitarist. And of course Larry Carltons work with them is amazing.

simplephysics 05-29-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slint (Post 485154)
This is weak! There have got to be more fans on this forum than just me and ProggyMan.

Pretzel Logic is pretty much all I've heard, apart from fractured songs here and there. ProggyMan is correct. Next time I see my brother I'm highjacking his music. He's a big SD fan.

Dr_Rez 05-29-2008 07:16 PM

Aja is a wonderful album Also Steve Gadd's drum work is fantastic.

Ghostrider 06-13-2008 06:49 AM

Steely Dan is a great band, I bought "Can't Buy A Thrill" on vinyl when it was released back in the 70's, and followed them right up to "Gaucho". My fave album is "The Royal Scam" but you really can't go wrong with any of their albums.

ProggyMan 06-13-2008 02:32 PM

Here's a top 10 comp for interested parties.
1. King Of The World
2. Chain Lightning
3. Do It Again
4. Night By Night
5. Bodhisattva
6. Babylon Sisters
7. Everyone's Gone To The Movies
8. Rikki Don't Lose That Numbers
9. Any World
10. My Old School
Countdown To Ecstasy-3 (17)
Katy Lied-3 (15)
Pretel Logic-2 (10)
Can't Buy a Thrill-1 (8)
Gaucho-1 (5)

Rainard Jalen 07-11-2008 10:10 AM

Been listening to this band lately, Can't Buy A Thrill is pretty much the most awesome thing of all time. I don't get why I had heard so little about them before.

ProggyMan 07-11-2008 09:56 PM

Eh, Can't Buy a Thrill is like their nooby album. It's overproduced imo. Some great songs of course, everyone's heard Do It again.

Molecules 07-11-2008 11:14 PM

The debut is just no-nonsense, I have a soft spot for it as it was the first record I heard by them. I don't see how it's overproduced compared to their later stuff (well Pretzel and Aja)? They all had a very clean, high-end sound.

ProggyMan 07-11-2008 11:18 PM

I put Logic on a lower pedestal than Katy Lied and Countdown, with the rest of their work. Countdown is their best imo. King Of The World is one of my favorite songs ever.

Molecules 07-11-2008 11:23 PM

*feels a blog search coming on*

ProggyMan 07-11-2008 11:30 PM

You won't be disappointed, it's criminal to omit ***en and Becker from any conversation about great songwriting duos.

SATCHMO 07-13-2008 10:37 AM

^^^^ HAHA, they wont let you write [B]F[B]agen! His solo album Nightfly is fantastic and a good tangent to follow if you like Steely Dan.

Ghostrider 07-13-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 497084)
Eh, Can't Buy a Thrill is like their nooby album. It's overproduced imo. Some great songs of course, everyone's heard Do It again.

I'm not sure it's overproduced, it was their first album and they were very excited about it. When Can't Buy A Thrill was released it was really well received by all of my friends, we even bought the 8-track. This is and will remain the happiest most easygoing album Steely Dan ever released, I still smile when I hear Reelin' In The Years...my favorite Steely Dan song of all time.:yeah:

ProggyMan 07-13-2008 06:13 PM

It's not as lyrically sarcastic as their later work, another reason I don't like it as much.

Ghostrider 07-13-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 497452)
It's not as lyrically sarcastic as their later work, another reason I don't like it as much.

No argument there, my favorite album is The Royal Scam, probably one of the darkest albums they ever released. But when we were partying on the beach etc. Can't Buy A Thrill was a blast.

ProggyMan 07-13-2008 06:27 PM

No doubt, no doubt.

Rainard Jalen 07-17-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 497110)
it's criminal to omit ***en

Can you mind your language please, son.

I've been listening to Countdown To Ecstasy. What a great album. I see what you mean about the refinement of their sound. It is definitely a much tighter, more unified effort than Can't Buy A Thrill. I like both albums now for different things. For a purely enjoyable easy-listening pop experience, the debut wins the day, but Steely Dan continue to delve further into their innovative impulses with the sophomore.

ProggyMan 07-17-2008 06:34 PM

Yeh, Logic goes back to the sound of the debut, but not overproduced in the same sense. It's got better songwriting I think. They're about the same in my book. It's a stepping stone to Katy Lied which I consider the pinnacle of their career in terms of the style. Countdown is still my favorite Dan album though. King Of The World is incredible.

Rainard Jalen 07-27-2008 02:20 AM

So, I'm now up to Katy Lied, listened to it about 10 times or so. Question on my mind is, did Steely Dan actually go wrong anywhere, and if so, then when? I am baffled by the quality of this discography so far. Each one could be a one side best of compilation.

Ghostrider 07-27-2008 08:47 AM

I think Steely Dan is one of the most consistent bands in my collection, I followed them right up to Gaucho, on vinyl. As Proggy said, they continued to grow and become more sophisticated but still remained accessible. I don't think they ever made a bad album myself RJ.:yeah:

ProggyMan 07-27-2008 10:28 AM

While I still haven't gotten around to listening to their new stuff then no, their discography's pretty flawless.

Rainard Jalen 07-28-2008 05:13 PM

So where do The Royal Scam and Gaucho fit within the Steely Dan discography? I noticed that varoius critics seem to have it in for The Royal Scam, and Gaucho isn't all that well received either. Why is this? What is the importance of these albums?

I have heard neither as of yet, but The Royal Scam is the next in the chronology I am following.

ProggyMan 07-28-2008 09:54 PM

I think they just needed something to bash, and they're certainly not as good as Katy Lied or Countdown, so it's probably due to them being compared to several of the best albums ever. Babylon Sisters on Gaucho is one of my favorite Dan songs, so certainly worth checking out.

WeeLittleHobbit 07-29-2008 01:32 PM

Steely Dan is amazing. The Jazz/rock style is original and fresh. My favorite album would have to be Aja, but Gaucho is probably a close second. Kudos to Donald Faegan and Walter Becker!

Rainard Jalen 07-31-2008 03:25 PM

Katy Lied. F'cking WOAH. I really think this may be my favourite album ever. It is absolutely amazing. What a collection of songs and melodies!

ProggyMan 07-31-2008 05:58 PM

What's your favorite song off Katy Lied? Mine's Chain Lightning.

Rainard Jalen 08-01-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 502511)
What's your favorite song off Katy Lied? Mine's Chain Lightning.

It's so hard to say! I have a particular partiality towards Rose Darling. Doctor Wu is great, too. Ultimately though, the album is just so consistently strong.

Incidentally I heard that Faegen and Becker weren't pleased with the album because something was slightly askew (only to an audiophilic geek) in the recording process? And that they refused to listen to it. I found that humorous.

ProggyMan 08-01-2008 10:28 AM

Never heard that, it always seemed perfect to me...I mean the production's great, listening to Doctor Wu, Chain Lightning the mastering seems impeccable.

Rainard Jalen 08-03-2008 04:48 PM

I've been listening to The Royal Scam, and there's one question on my mind:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquatch
my favorite album is The Royal Scam, probably one of the darkest albums they ever released.

How come? Surely it had to be their weakest set of songs since they began. Half the songs don't seem properly written, leading the album to feel well below previous lofty standards.


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