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Old 12-30-2007, 07:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just read "Prison Sex", besides male rape I don't see many comparisons -- different stylings, the vocabulary set is completely different, the point of view from the teller of the story. The complete lack of setting in Tool's song... the strong use of metaphors contrasts with our blatant imagery...

Again, besides the male rape and perhaps the insinuation of the narrator's youth troubles with the issue... well, that's about it, am I right?

Crowquill, you know what we should do from now on. Look at other people's songs and make slight variations and then release it together and see if anybody notices!
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Crowquill, you know what we should do from now on. Look at other people's songs and make slight variations and then release it together and see if anybody notices!
Yes! And instead of stealing it from songwriters we respect and adore let's steal them from songwriters who I've openly shamed on the forum and said I thought were shit time and time again!
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes! And instead of stealing it from songwriters we respect and adore let's steal them from songwriters who I've openly shamed on the forum and said I thought were **** time and time again!
Did I ever say you plagarized from them? No, I only noted the similarity.


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Just read "Prison Sex", besides male rape I don't see many comparisons -- different stylings, the vocabulary set is completely different, the point of view from the teller of the story. The complete lack of setting in Tool's song... the strong use of metaphors contrasts with our blatant imagery...
Did you ignore the part where the protaganist turns things around at the end and "gets the last laugh" (not exactly what I mean, but couldn't think of anything better). And how the beginning of the song is structured the same as the end of the song on both.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The beginning of the song, is structured the same... as the END of the song... on both? Whaaaat? I want to explain the difference - but maybe I'm missing something... can you show me the how it is the same at all structurally between the songs, at both the beginning and the end?

And also the "Getting the last laugh" is... well not accurate. They come to terms with the situation in completely different ways -- Tool's guy continues the rape cycle, while our boy kills his father and tries to fall asleep next to his dead body with his brother. This "last laugh, turn around" ending is not unique to Tool. It spans the full spectrum of literary mediums. So while it is "similar" to the Tool song that I've never heard, it's also "similar" to most Shakespearean tragedies, Batman comics and Days of Our Lives. Again the only strong similarity is the male rape... and maybe the stained youth. Tool's song reminds me of the movie, Sleepers. Mm hm.
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yes! And instead of stealing it from songwriters we respect and adore let's steal them from songwriters who I've openly shamed on the forum and said I thought were **** time and time again! < So you'll stop stealing my shit then? :-P
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:50 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Since FaSho bumped this, I feel compelled to say that despite my personal feelings (/lackof) for Ethan, this was ****ing awesome. Love the blunt subject matter, the style. I think the title's just fine. Candor, ftw.
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