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Old 01-05-2010, 01:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Default poem...

Very early one, this one...

Beautiful World

Sight seeing, a sight to see
How bright is the bright blue sea?
This beautiful world for all,
makes us proud, makes us tall
With vast colours, shaded here and there…
Yet fenced off and separated everywhere

A childs nervous hand reaches for the wire
to be shot at with a round of fire
Leaves the hundreds lined, with crying eyes
Anyone whom touches the fence surely dies
With fear, inside their hearts’ burn
With every single heartbeat upon this worlds turn
Pushed back, freedom only in dream
for enough of this world they have seen
Now they wait for tomorrow when
their eyes witness this tragic scene again

But this scene is so wrong
all the time
Subjecting a group to think
‘living’ is a crime
This ‘beautiful world’ for all
makes us scared, lets us fall
Shaded with the bloodstains here and there
But no one is listening…
do they even care?

Maybe we can figure this out
Make the promise,
listen to their plea and shout:
“Problems lie not with them but with the world!
let them in! let them live!
Let them escape into their beautiful world!”
They will not fear waking everyday
They will never forget what you took away
Their life…
Their family…
Their hope…
Their entire world…

Now, just let them live, knowing they can cope
and they not only have the right to see
but that they have the right
To be
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Default song...

Last Hope (Tainted Memory)

- INTRO -
Breaking the experience away...
Experience the breaking away...

- VERSE 1 -
The bloodied skies breath, slowly taking from me
Breaks the strain in the everyday
Brings the pain in a different way
The darkened clouds rise, drifting in their demise
Bloodied skies breathe taking from me...

- CHORUS - (x2)
Lost, twisted and tainted memory
Investing in a lost time...
The only time, I can make it mine

Found, wasted while I waited
Investing in a lost time...
Only this time, I'm losing my mind

- VERSE 2 -
The desperation seems, now a part of me
Crimson rains and I start to pray
Feeling the pain on a different day
The liberation clear, I see why, now I'm here
Experience the breaking away
Experience this breaking today

- CHORUS - (x2)

- OUTRO -
I'm losing my mind...
I'm losing my mind...
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Pure Faith

- INTRO -
The Fixtures
Painted... (pained with black)
The Figures
Moving... (turned your back)

- VERSE 1 -
You've got a 'Pure Faith'
in the unknown
I'd like to tell you, but you don't know
You're losing what (you make-believe...)
I'd like to show you, but you wont see

- CHORUS 1 -
Yesterday
called again tomorrow...
too long, too long
You hold your head and pray to...
your God, your God
and damn you for believing...
it's wrong, it's wrong
So don't hold their hand and say...
Dear Lord
Dear Lord

- VERSE 2 -
So about this... (Pure Faith in the Unknown)
There's no miracle... (now I've been told)
I'll tell you
You wont see
This can't be happening...
Right in front of me...

- CHORUS 2 -
Yesterday
called again tomorrow...
too long, too long
You hold your head and pray to...
your God, your God
and damn you for believing...
it's wrong, it's wrong
So don't hold their hand and say...
Dear Lord
Dear Lord...

Yesterday
called again tomorrow... Today
Too Late... To hold His hand and say
Dear Lord, Dear Lord
Damn you for believing... anymore
Damn you for believing... anymore
So don't hold my hand and say...
You're God...
You're God...
(my God..)

- BRIDGE -
(my God... my God...)
What are we doing?
Where are we going?
Things we keep saying
We aren't knowing

My God
My God...
Where are you going?
What are you doing?
Things you're saying
I never hear you anymore...
...anymore

- CHORUS 2 -

- VERSE 3 / OUTRO -
You've got a Pure Faith in the Unknown
I'd like to show you but you now know
I wont tell you what you now see...

The Fixtures
Fading... (fell in black)
The Figures
Leaving... (call them back)
Hi DiSTANToblivion,

I find songs about faith issues interesting, and so would like to learn what "the fixtures fading (fell in black)" and "the figures leaving (call them back)" mean. I understand the basic idea of the song as being that the singer feels the woman who believes in god is wrong...but perhaps the singer feels the woman is losing her faith and can't help her? I can't tell the viewpoints of the singer, but would like to. Also, what is it that the singer "can't believe ... is happening?"

I like the line, "You've got a Pure Faith in the Unknown" because that, for me, summarizes what religion is...except that those who are religious feel the "unknown" is known.

I'm confused by all the different time references. You make frequent references to time in the song, so I know it must be important, but I'm not sure why:

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Yesterday called again tomorrow... Today
Too Late... To hold His hand and say
Dear Lord, Dear Lord
Looking at all your songs and poems together, I feel they deal with serious, weighty personal issues. They feel very troubled.

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Old 01-11-2010, 11:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi DiSTANToblivion,

I find songs about faith issues interesting, and so would like to learn what "the fixtures fading (fell in black)" and "the figures leaving (call them back)" mean. I understand the basic idea of the song as being that the singer feels the woman who believes in god is wrong...but perhaps the singer feels the woman is losing her faith and can't help her? I can't tell the viewpoints of the singer, but would like to. Also, what is it that the singer "can't believe ... is happening?"

I like the line, "You've got a Pure Faith in the Unknown" because that, for me, summarizes what religion is...except that those who are religious feel the "unknown" is known.

I'm confused by all the different time references. You make frequent references to time in the song, so I know it must be important, but I'm not sure why:



Looking at all your songs and poems together, I feel they deal with serious, weighty personal issues. They feel very troubled.

--Erica
I like your interpretation of the song. Thank you.

I might ramble a bit here, sorry.

Basically the song is about living your whole life being a non-believer, but forgoing that when the worst happens. You are faced with dire circumstances so you change every idea that you've ever believed or not believed in to save yourself. I don't have any strong religious beliefs myself but I don't see how people can do that. Being scared because you're facing these things and deciding that you need to believe in something you never have. Seems really false, like you're really lying just to save yourself.

In that sense the singer is kind of jaded; thinking that those who believe all along are wrong. Like they don't have the right to believe in something they themselves don't know is real. I wanted to have the song from the perspective of someone who lost someone recently. After something horrible like that you wouldn't know what to believe, worse if you've been brought up differently to everyone else around you. Everything that the singer is saying about this person is alien to him. He can't share the beliefs of the other person and will not conform to when the end comes.

What the singer cannot believe is that in the end he himself is searching for something to believe in. He is at a point where his attitude towards religion has backed him into a corner, he actually needs to feel some sort of faith when the worst comes to him.

He doesn't believe in what his partner believes in (from the way he was brought up?) and dismisses the fact that people find an easy answer when faced with the end. But after it all he does conform, he doesn't want to lose his partner. When she is suffering and he is going to lose her he may understand why people need faith, he isn't finding an easy way out, he understands. I don't know if he takes the revelation well though, he isn't at peace with himself after it, he doesn't know what to believe after she is gone forever.

The fixtures fading could be a couple things:
- it could be his partner, whom had been with him for a long time
- it could be his religious views
The figures leaving can be taken physically or spiritually.

Most songs and poems I write are not entirely personal, but yes I see what you mean. Some of them are very personal from when I wasn't feeling the best. 'Burning Bridge' is very personal and 'Looking Through'. But everything is okay, I'm perfectly fine, I write mostly when I have a problem about something going on.

Phew... I'll shut up now. lol
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You've got great, deep lyrics, can you put up some links?
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You've got great, deep lyrics, can you put up some links?
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You mean links to this thread? I'm flattered... Yes you can, thankyou again.
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I like your interpretation of the song. Thank you.

Basically the song is about living your whole life being a non-believer, but forgoing that when the worst happens. You are faced with dire circumstances so you change every idea that you've ever believed or not believed in to save yourself. I don't have any strong religious beliefs myself but I don't see how people can do that. Being scared because you're facing these things and deciding that you need to believe in something you never have. Seems really false, like you're really lying just to save yourself.What the singer cannot believe is that in the end he himself is searching for something to believe in. He is at a point where his attitude towards religion has backed him into a corner, he actually needs to feel some sort of faith when the worst comes to him.
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Most songs and poems I write are not entirely personal, but yes I see what you mean. Some of them are very personal from when I wasn't feeling the best. 'Burning Bridge' is very personal and 'Looking Through'. But everything is okay, I'm perfectly fine, I write mostly when I have a problem about something going on.

Phew... I'll shut up now. lol
Thanks for sharing the background behind the song lyrics, DISTANToblivion. I like to hear them because they remind me of what I like best about lyrics: they are a succinct description of the more complicated human reality underneath.

It is also hard for me to imagine shifting my worldview...and when I meet people who do (such as a religious person becoming atheist) I'm always curious about what that "revelation" or realization was like for them. I know a few people who go from agnostic or atheist to religious and I'm never quite sure what triggered the shift...what unfulfilled need or desire results in them being open to what to my brain/logic system seems so unlikely.

I suppose even I (like the person in your song) might not be immune during a time of crisis (in the midst of an accident, say) to pray something like, "If there is any supernatural force, please stop this from happening!" However, since millions of religious people die in unfortunate accidents all the time, I see no reason to think that, even if there were a supernatural being, this being would ever come to anyone's physical aid.

I think your song topic is probably correct, though, that people in different circumstances will do things they never expected they would. A concrete example: captive, starving soldiers in a war prison camp filtering through human sewage in latrines to find tiny grains of undigested rice to eat. True story. Would I do that? Hard to imagine based on my current situation, but I probably would.

I feel your song lyrics do capture part of what you wrote the song about. My preference would be for the song to drop a few more hints to show what is going on, although I understand you perhaps want the song to be very open to interpretation so that people can take away different ideas from it!

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Thanks for sharing the background behind the song lyrics, DISTANToblivion. I like to hear them because they remind me of what I like best about lyrics: they are a succinct description of the more complicated human reality underneath.

It is also hard for me to imagine shifting my worldview...and when I meet people who do (such as a religious person becoming atheist) I'm always curious about what that "revelation" or realization was like for them. I know a few people who go from agnostic or atheist to religious and I'm never quite sure what triggered the shift...what unfulfilled need or desire results in them being open to what to my brain/logic system seems so unlikely.

I suppose even I (like the person in your song) might not be immune during a time of crisis (in the midst of an accident, say) to pray something like, "If there is any supernatural force, please stop this from happening!" However, since millions of religious people die in unfortunate accidents all the time, I see no reason to think that, even if there were a supernatural being, this being would ever come to anyone's physical aid.

I think your song topic is probably correct, though, that people in different circumstances will do things they never expected they would. A concrete example: captive, starving soldiers in a war prison camp filtering through human sewage in latrines to find tiny grains of undigested rice to eat. True story. Would I do that? Hard to imagine based on my current situation, but I probably would.

I feel your song lyrics do capture part of what you wrote the song about. My preference would be for the song to drop a few more hints to show what is going on, although I understand you perhaps want the song to be very open to interpretation so that people can take away different ideas from it!

~ Erica
You always have the best replies Erica. You knew exactly what I was trying to convey and had some very educated words for me, thank you.

I did want to leave it open for interpretation but I'm starting to wonder about making it more clear. I may repost that one to revise it, I'd like to have your input as well, if it's okay?

I'll need to get back into writing as I haven't done anything in a while. Burning Bridge was something new but I can't find the right words anymore. Like you replied earlier about lyrics and poems written when you're younger, having more raw emotion within them, I think I need to try going back to basics. Plus there is a story that I've been writing, that I've had writers block with for months now and it's upsetting. I may post some of that too, I'm not sure yet.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This mist, the fever and its embrace,
mind easing in its calm retrace
This tale lies
Woven within, seeping through,
it begins…
It ends with you

This mist, a comfort now replaced
Dismiss,
to enter this saving grace
Your dream, the story unfolds


^^^ wish i could finish this.
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I don't think that the last one needs to be that much longer. There are some really, really good songs which have very, very minimalist lyrics.

Let's take "Is there Anybody Out There" by Pink Floyd.
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