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Dirty 10-21-2010 12:50 AM

Dirty's Lyrics and Songs
 
EDIT: DL LINK TO BUILT TO BE FILTHY MIXTAPE



I've been writing lyrics and recording my rhymes for about a year now. 90% of the time I use original beats, made by my friends and sometimes I use an instrumental. I try to be really diverse with the things I write, cover different topics, sometimes poetic and sometimes just blatant and straight forward. But I've found writing to be really therapeutic in dealing with my feelings and thoughts.

So I'll be posting some of my stuff in here... I think it's pretty obvious I didn't sign up to just promote my music, I came here after the music forum I was posting on basically became a ghost town and I have been contributing and plan to keep doing so. If a mod disagrees and thinks I signed up to spam, then so be it. I guess just remove any videos and whenever it's deemed I have been here long enough, I'll just post them again.


So with that, here's a song I wrote called 'Hollow.' Basically I had a 2.5 year relationship with a girl and it was really messy at a lot of different points. After we were broken up for awhile, she visited town for a mutual friends birthday and seeing her really brought a lot of different feelings to the surface. So the next few nights I wrote about it and made a song out of it. All three verses are different in that the theme of each verse kinda represents different stages of a breakup

Verse 1

When it ends, yes I still pretend we're meant to be
connecting dots, making plots of where my life should be
life is crazy, but maybe there's somethin better in this world for me to find
Is she the only one that really shines?
Probably not,
but my throat's stuck in knots,
cause she shines just like a ruby
the beauty in my broken movie
Wish that we could start fresh, but is it possible?
Forget about the past and the rest, lose the obstacles?
and everything that's trivial, we could live invisible and live in bliss
cause with this chick I felt invincible
Really feel me, how ya lose 2 years?
Try to pick up all the pieces, remain calm, and think clear?
I can't control it so I drink 10 beers
and send her up some drunk texts that were detailing my fears
of how I'd never be completed
and everything that's leading to the end was leaving
that chick was everything I ever needed


Chorus

I feel hollow
the emptiness is killing me so follow
me and all my feelings to this empty bottle
(X2)

Verse 2

Can we start again?
Our hearts will mend, I promise
and through the fog there is a calm beyond this
Can't we just be honest with ourselves?
Or are we jaundiced?
Strangers when we meet up in the streets
is this the way you really wanted it to be?
Can't we fight through the debris?
Or has it washed away?
It's black and white and I'm lost in grey
Can I fix it?
If not, I'm getting lifted cause it's too much to take
We break what we create most
Raise a toast in the glass with much ice
and I'm the jealous type
Maybe my fellas right,
it sounds trite
But as the calendar turns
I'm still burned, and bitter, broken, bruised
Standin guilty as the man accused
I'm confused at how it hurts so much
to watch your lust turn to love and then love reverts back to dust.

*CHORUS*

Verse 3

Was the lemon worth the squeeze?
Check the trees, cause I need some mary, scary how I freeze if I been drinkin
Thinkin, how do lovers make amends?
Can they still be friends without the benefits
and blend with all the rest of it?
Or is she caught in some pretentious ****?
and is she really gonna snub me in public?
Is she pretending it?
I never know, I put an end to my doubt
Grabbing pictures off my wall, now her face is blacked out
It's like the first days, they fade quicker
I only call her if I'm with her or I'm drinkin liquor
Walking lines of love and hate but never walk it straight
Because in time a perfect picture always seems to break
I watched it fade...


Dirty 10-21-2010 11:02 PM

Say What!
 
This is a newer song I just recorded... I wanted to make something intense and more high tempo. I don't believe in stuff like autotune. I'm out for lyrical talent and rhyme scheme and all that good stuff. A DJ from london sent me some awesome beats, this one features a great Pulp Fiction sample.

Verse 1

goin in headfirst on the verse
you heard it here first the dirtiest is dirty curt
and im back, swinging with my battleaxe
buckle up your chinstraps
cause i blow upon impact
its only mics that i kidnap,
hold em hostage,
give a **** what the cost is,
im goin all out,
im goin off route like i lost the map
im writin raps in the back of the laundromat
here it is, it isnt simple is it,
temperature is hitting triple digits when i hit the mic admit it
you didnt see it comin, the real renegade desperado
whos image it doesnt fit with his bravado but freaks beats,
whose lyrics bring the heat to the brain,
here come the beast, hes unchained
i dont stop
lock me in a box, nice try,
heroes are remembered but legends they never die, thats why
call me unkillable, not your typical rapper who isnt lyrical,
i kill you with syllables, what?
didnt expect this,
never listen wreckless,
its like a demolition when i start to wreck **** up
hop on the bus, take yall to school
since you think you know me well cause we talked once back in highschool
long as im livin then im givin yall a taste,
nobody goes harder on a mixtape,
what!!

*Chorus*


verse 2


what, what what, im not afraid, if you are get to stepping
cause i use my pen and pencil as my lethal weapon
dont like the heat get out the kitchin
ales im sippin, scales im tippin, n mics im grippin
only got an attitude towards the autotune cause what the ****!?
you need to autotune your **** that means you auto suck
like it or not that's my position, recite my compositions
when the clickin of my pen is my ignition for the track,
it's a fact,
there aint a definitative definition for the way that i rap
cause im original, ahead of the times,
somethin special, not your typical recyclin the rhymes
when every song is too predictable their soundin the same,
too many rappers that im hearin tryin to be lil wayne,
devils raise hell, i raise Kane, i came to kickass, ya came to take names,
they call me superman but go no lois lane
aint got no kryptonite, mixin sprite with 100 proof,
im not the same, i change my jumpsuits in phonebooths
so try to hassle me ill put you in a headlock,
i blow a smoke ring then blow the speakers out your boombox
protect your neck, better yet protect your system,
im ready for attack the 520s got my back, yo its like that
you think im bluffin place your bets, battle anybody then erase em like an etch a sketch, what!


benjamin21open 10-21-2010 11:21 PM

you have a good talent in writing song dirty.
I like your songs, im just sad i cant play your video here.
I admire your poetic side of writing.

someonecompletelyrandom 10-22-2010 12:22 AM

Awww YEAH! Finally another emcee up in this joint! I was bobbin the whole time man. nice lyricism in them lines too. I loved Hollow.
If you ever wanna collab, I'm down.

Dirty 10-22-2010 02:52 AM

I'd love to. I listened to your song in the Dylanist thread... Loved it. Most stuff I hear I don't really feel but I was diggin your stuff. Nobody in my area ever wants to collabo. Nobody here even likes rap, its sad. The only guys that rap don't have much skill and are really bad lyrically and flow wise. They sound like they've all been listening too much to Drake and Wayne. Glad to see another rapper around here.

I just recorded last weekend actually, my dude Nasty N8 is mixing everything and by this weekend I should have out a mixtape of 10-12 songs. I'm really happy with how most of them turned out. The first 10ish songs I made weren't real great looking back, most of them were just stoner rap stuff and my flow and lyrics were elementary, but i think these new tunes show my improvement. Before I release the mixtape though I was thinking about turning the vocals down on Say What! Opinion on that?

Here's two that I recorded this weekend too. These beats are original. (I'll post lyrics tomorrow)

All Scientific


Untitled

someonecompletelyrandom 10-22-2010 12:51 PM

That song in the Dylanist thread isn't really my best work., but thanks. Give me a heads up when your tape drops. The vocals on Say What could be turned down. I think it'd make for a better mix, they seem to distort a bit at the volume they're at.

I just dropped a tape not long ago, should be in here somewhere http://www.musicbanter.com/soundtrac...e-catalog.html

Unfortunetly the producer and I had major artistic differences so it's only 7 songs of varrying production quality. Most of it is actually in a different direction then I'd liked to have taken. I'm far more influenced by country, folk, and jazz music then what's on that tape... but it didn't turn out too bad.

As for these two songs, I'm digging em. Nice beats, I liked the samples you used. Your flow was on point, emotion was right for this type of track. Your style, even when your doing basic bragging, is very philosophical sounding. You've got a tone about your voice that sounds like your teaching. Of the two I prefer All Scientific because the hook pretty memorable. Good work.

Also, two Kobe references = win.

Dirty 10-22-2010 05:23 PM

I have a lot of different metaphors and references in my stuff. I'm a sports junkie at heart. My old stuff had a lot of filler, but on these newer ones, every rhyme means something. nothings there just for the hell of it.. the 520 references refer to the address where all my friends live: 520 Holmes Street. Some of it is more on a local level and other stuff is pretty obvious. If you listen to the Wu or Nas you'll defintely see some double meanings in some of my stuff referring to them "protect your neck", "bring the ruckus", "it aint hard to tell". And like half of my beats for this mixtape either feature a Nas sample or I used a Nas instrumental.

I'll give your tape a DL here tonight. Any music you wanna send me, feel free to hit my inbox. I've always been a music head, but never really had the patience or talent to learn guitar or keyboard or drums, or anything really. I just lucked out 2 years ago and lived with a kid who made beats and I thought I could make much better stuff than the amateur rap i was hearing on youtube and whatever. Some kind I kinda know has a band with a pop-punk/hardcore sound and he wants me to do something with his band. I kinda have that yelling type of rap voice, so im excited to try it out and see how it sounds, im always up for anything creative and out of the box.

Progalist 10-24-2010 01:23 AM

wow dude i am diggin this. did you record this stuff yourself?

Dirty 10-24-2010 06:38 AM

My dude said the entire mixtape would hopefully be done by Tuesday. He's juggling full time working and bein a full-time student so hopefully he can get some spare time these next few days and get everything done... but I decided I'm gonna turn the vocals down on some of these tracks before I put em all out there.. Just thinkin i'm comin in too hard off the intros and chorus.

Thanks dude, glad you're feelin this. and yeah, we do everything by ourselves. My dude Nasty has a keyboard and a portable Yamaha studio... For like the first 10 songs I made I was testing the waters out. We'd roll up some herb and he'd sit there and make beats on his keyboard and I'd just flow rhymes. Then I'd just throw on the headphones and record it, and he would master everything and edit it on his laptop. So it's just us two doing everything from our apartment, not like we get real studio time or anything like that. So considering it's all a do it yourself type thing I think the quality and all that sounds real nice.

All Scientific and Say What! and all these other songs I just recorded were beats from a dude in London. He somehow heard some of my original stuff on Youtube and just got at me and sent me some beats and i was blown away. Just really feelin that style with a lot of crisp samples. and we're both 90s hip hop heads, into the same artists and stuff, and when i heard the beats he was sendin me i just couldnt believe it. So i took some time and wrote to em, perfected em best I could, then drove the 5 hours to my boy Nasty's house and recorded them. Everything from these are completely from scratch and just done by us.

People don't get it though... I aint tryin to be signed or be rich with these. I'm just tryin to be nice on the mic, cause to me it sounds like everyone out there is following the same mold and I just wanna make rap music that I love to listen to and has a style to it. I don't feel the rappers that rhyme slow and use autotune and all that, im not about that. So I'm just tryin to go in hard on my music and try to do something different that doesn't sound like anyone else. People I know in real life just aren't grasping that concept that I'm not making music that I think everyones gonna like.

Anyways, here's the first song I ever recorded (featuring Nasty). I feel like you can really see the improvement I've made in the past year if you listen to this and then listen to a new song of mine. Cause before I was just reachin for rhymes and it was all stoner-rap stuff and i evolved since. But this is In Weed We Trust, first song we ever did. Kinda wanna go back to my old stuff and take the beats and just make new songs over em, just sounds so elementary and basic now.


cLumZe 10-26-2010 01:12 AM

Damn bro, i'm really feeling your ****

VEGANGELICA 10-28-2010 09:24 AM

Dirty, I listened to all the songs in your thread so far, and agree with Conan that although three of your songs ("Dirty Curt," "All Scientific", "Untitled,") seem to be basic bragging about your rap style and skills, your lyrics do sound very philosophical, and you have a nice flow:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan (Post 946507)
Nice beats, I liked the samples you used. Your flow was on point, emotion was right for this type of track. Your style, even when your doing basic bragging, is very philosophical sounding.

One thing I like about your lyrics is that they actually make sense. Some rappers I've heard put words together apparently almost randomly, just for the sound, not for the sense, and I much prefer there to be a concept beneath the words.

Since you wrote that you are just writing and making music that you like and not to be competitive in the market, plus that you want to be original, my recommendation would be to avoid songs that go on about how original your rapping is...because don't a lot of rappers do that? The impression I get is that a big part of rapping is this competitive "I'm the better rapper" idea. I haven't listened to much rap, though, so that may not be valid.

I was most interested in your first song, because the topic of a breakup and the emotions it causes is a tough one to describe without it getting all mushy and melodramatic sounding. I was also a little surprised by the song because I don't usually think of rappers talking about relationship issues without using the word "whore," so that was refreshing.

I especially liked the following lines (in bold) in your lyrics for "Hollow," because you use a lot of metaphors to make your point, and the song is both introspective, analytical, and emotional. I've also wondered occasionally if the lemon is worth the squeeze, because sometimes after a relationship and all the trying to make it into a good one (the "squeeze") you just end up with a sour taste and a bad relationship (the "lemon"). There's no lemonade, no sugar. So, I especially liked that metaphor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 945993)

"Hollow" song

When it ends, yes I still pretend we're meant to be
connecting dots, making plots of where my life should be

cause she shines just like a ruby
the beauty in my broken movie

I'm confused at how it hurts so much
to watch your lust turn to love and then love reverts back to dust.

Was the lemon worth the squeeze?
Thinkin, how do lovers make amends?
Can they still be friends without the benefits


Dirty 11-03-2010 05:21 AM

Quote:

Dirty, I listened to all the songs in your thread so far, and agree with Conan that although three of your songs ("Dirty Curt," "All Scientific", "Untitled,") seem to be basic bragging about your rap style and skills, your lyrics do sound very philosophical, and you have a nice flow:


One thing I like about your lyrics is that they actually make sense. Some rappers I've heard put words together apparently almost randomly, just for the sound, not for the sense, and I much prefer there to be a concept beneath the words.
Thank you VEGANGELICA for giving my stuff a listen. I appreciate the compliments and critiques. Even when it's straight bragging/metaphorical stuff, i try to be original and true to myself. Like I don't talk about my swag or any **** like that, especially with these newer songs I tried to erase all the filler.


Quote:

Since you wrote that you are just writing and making music that you like and not to be competitive in the market, plus that you want to be original, my recommendation would be to avoid songs that go on about how original your rapping is...because don't a lot of rappers do that? The impression I get is that a big part of rapping is this competitive "I'm the better rapper" idea. I haven't listened to much rap, though, so that may not be valid.
A huge part of rapping is boasting on the mic about your skills. And if you aren't confident in your rhymes, it comes off as lame. You gotta believe what you're sayin, I think... But I hear what you are saying about being diverse and I thought of that before I recorded this mixtape. All Scientific, Say What!, and Untitled are the only 3 on the 10 song mixtape that are boasting type of songs. I think people will really appreciate the variety and diversity I show on these new songs. There's a lot of poetic lines, i cant wait til they are produced so I can hear the final product, it's a lot of stuff that you just don't normally hear.


Quote:

I was most interested in your first song, because the topic of a breakup and the emotions it causes is a tough one to describe without it getting all mushy and melodramatic sounding. I was also a little surprised by the song because I don't usually think of rappers talking about relationship issues without using the word "whore," so that was refreshing.

I especially liked the following lines (in bold) in your lyrics for "Hollow," because you use a lot of metaphors to make your point, and the song is both introspective, analytical, and emotional. I've also wondered occasionally if the lemon is worth the squeeze, because sometimes after a relationship and all the trying to make it into a good one (the "squeeze") you just end up with a sour taste and a bad relationship (the "lemon"). There's no lemonade, no sugar. So, I especially liked that metaphor.

Thank you! Hollow is definitely my favorite song of myself... I was kickin around some beats and then one night I ran into my ex and so many feelings just hit me, so I spent the next day writing and recording. It's hard to make music about relationships without sounding cheesy, corny, or recycled. So I tried to make it more poetic and real...A few songs from this new mixtape are similar and relate to relationship stuff, and i impressed myself with the writing cause I didn't think I had it in me to make a decent relationship song.


So... new songs still not produced :bonkhead:
But here's an older one i made last year. More of a political song. I really like my 2nd verse on this. MF Doom fans will recognize the beat instantly.


Arya Stark 11-03-2010 11:07 PM

Ohhh shiiiiiit.
Listening to "All Scientific" and definitely impressed.

Dirty 11-05-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 952060)
Ohhh shiiiiiit.
Listening to "All Scientific" and definitely impressed.

Awesome :afro: Glad you are feelin it.

New songs still not produced :mad: so here is another old one. We found a girl singing into her webcam on youtube and sampled it and made a beat around it. This is one of my favorite beats ever. My rhyming is ok, but it was one of my first songs. probably gonna take the beat and do another song around it at some point.


Enjoy

Stay Strong

Dirty 11-14-2010 10:51 PM

Mixtape is finally done! :thumb:

Built To Be Filthy.rar

14 songs, majority are original beats, a few instrumentals. This is really diverse and has a lot of variety to it, I didn't want to make the stoner rap I started out doing so I took things to another level with this. All info is in the .txt document after download. Please download and drop any comments you have.

Enjoy


Peace!

VEGANGELICA 11-15-2010 08:44 AM

^ Dirty, I tried to download your songs but had troubles with mediafire. I clicked on "download" once and it opened up an ad. I clicked on it a second time and it opened up a *different* ad. I clicked on it a third time, and nothing happened. I temporarily allowed popups from the site, but still it didn't work.

When the "download" button did finally lead to another screen, the screen said that, "The website declined to show this webpage; HTTP 403 access forbidden."

To see if there is a site problem, I tested out a mediafire link that someone sent me in a private message to check if it still works, and it did. So, it seems to me that there is something about your link or upload settings that makes my computer unable to proceed to the download. I don't know why, but if I'm having this problem perhaps other people are, too.

Could you perhaps use MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service I've had great success with them! And I'd like to hear all your 14 songs.

Dirty 11-15-2010 02:08 PM

ANOTHER DL LINK TO MY MIXTAPE

I think what happened was i reached the DL limit for my free account on there cause when I woke up this morning there was like 40 downloads and it wouldnt let me download it anymore. grrrr. So there's a megaupload link, hopefully it works. I want to put it on datPiff.com but it recognizes two of the Nas instrumentals as the real song and it's copywritten so it wont include them and they are two of my favorite songs and I don't wanna leave them out of anything.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-15-2010 04:49 PM

Had no problems with Mediafire. Can't wait to here this man :beer:

Dirty 11-15-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan (Post 956826)
Had no problems with Mediafire. Can't wait to here this man :beer:

Not sure why mediafire works sometimes and doesn't other times :mad: Let me know which songs you are feelin... My personal favorites on this mixtape are 'If I Could Feel,' 'Dirty,' and 'All Scientific.' And 'Hollow' even though I made that awhile ago. Least favorite is probably 'You Wanna Battle.' Kinda went half assed on the end of that one, i was just so tired from writing and recording and don't have the luxury of hitting the studio on any type of regular basis.

Dirty 11-18-2010 09:17 PM

Since I know a lot of people won't download the entire thing, here's one of my personal favorites from my mixtape. It's a Nas instrumental of Surviving the Times. Basically it's just about people feeling pain in different ways, and how i wish i could take that pain from them. 2nd verse to this song is probably my favorite verse of mine I've written. Lyrics after the vid.



If i could feel for a second the pain of all the mothers of the earth whose sons are layin slain
in foregin countries, battlefields, explosions, kids chosen
for the front lines stayin low n outta the mix,
hopin praying, face to the ground bullets flyin, sprayin,
tryna to maintain, i wanna feel th pain
of all the kids, names unknown,
from families of broken homes,
with angry daddies who be brusin their bones,
pain is real - somebody gotta feel and eventually i think about it
starts to get to me how
im the priviliged, kids are livin life without the guidance,
surviving in the times with all the violence
got no positives, try to be a man and do the opposite all because their father wasn't their
now they grow up do the same ****,
beatin their wives,
tellin ties,
get in fights its unfair
that they gotta go alone unprepared
they wanna raise up above dont know how and their scared
you know i wanna feel the pain so yall dont have to, i stand before you
gimme every ounce of your pain, ill feel it for you

Chorus

All the pain that you're carrying
give it to me, i say lets bury it
you know that i would
cause all the hurt you've been carryin
its doin no good
you know id feel every ounce of your pain... if i could

All the pain that you're carrying
give it to me, i say lets bury it
you know that i would
cause all the hurt you've been carryin
its doin no good
you know id feel every ounce of your pain... if i could


in some places, smiliin is erased and gets replaced with a grimace
aint nobody knows the struggle, they dont live it they just watch it
on their televisions, when its happenin down the street whos gonna stop it, shocking aint it when its in your neighbors house, boulevards,
development, times are tough and hard it isnt elegant its evident to me...
we're killin each other, bunch of pregnant mothers
smokin cigarrettes who light up another,
their not protectin what they got in the womb,
i think its twisted, mystic like the stars and the moon
and yet it happens in suburbia to projects, ghettos, rural areas its nonsense, i wanna make the pain past tense
cause the world is such an ugly place, it's like a beautiful person who hates the world deep inside despite a pretty face
news distortion, reportin just a portion of the facts,
people supported by eating scraps from the trash
is this the world you wanna live in, grow to raise kids in,
if every day is just a gift that gods given us then whys there all the pain,
its never gonna end wish i could take it all away, yeah

Chrous

Dirty 11-21-2010 01:52 AM

Another personal favorite of mine off this mixtape. Basic theme here is me telling a girl from a relationship to just remember the good times and that we're still cool. I had no plans to make this song but the night before i was gonna record, i threw on this beat and everything just started flowing and it ended up being one of my favorite songs. Killer Nas sample too, can't say enough about the beats on this entire tape. Really like my lyrics and flow with the beat in this one. Also, I broke my Enter key on my keyboard :mad: so ill hold off on posting the lyrics cause they are gonna be in a weird format. But they are all pretty clear.

Dirty 11-23-2010 06:15 AM

This song was just a peaceful type of song. I love the tone the beat sets. Some great speech samples. Kinda long, verse doesn't start til about 1:30 into the song and its a rather short verse. Just love the feeling to this one, and I think my lyrics are great.

Souljah Of Peace

Nick Knox 11-23-2010 09:34 AM

Lmao

Dirty 11-23-2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Knox (Post 959957)
Lmao

Someone a little bitter I don't like their rhymes?

Nick Knox 11-23-2010 09:44 AM

nope. plenty of ppl dont like my music, don't think your special. nuff ppl like it too. so thats w.e

i was literally laughing my ass of at what i heard..

Dirty 11-23-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Knox (Post 959966)
nope. plenty of ppl dont like my music, don't think your special. nuff ppl like it too. so thats w.e

i was literally laughing my ass of at what i heard..

Yeaaaaah :rofl:

Bye bye kid.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-23-2010 11:03 AM

That's immature.

I haven't heard his music, but I'm assuming from what everyone else says it sucks. Even if it was brilliant, he's kind of just been bragging about himself and talking about himself everywhere. Kinda spamming. Why isn't this fruit-brownie banned yet?

Dirty 11-23-2010 11:37 AM

He;s one of those dudes who gets off to his hit counter on his website. Pretty much all his posts are about his own music. I just youtubed him to see what he had, and its really weak and basic stuff. Nothin worth anyones time to be honest. Also conan, thanks for listening to my mixtape, I am glad you liked it... I always forget there are wall messages or whatever they are called on this forum

teknoaxe 11-28-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 945993)
I've been writing lyrics and recording my rhymes for about a year now. 90% of the time I use original beats, made by my friends and sometimes I use an instrumental. I try to be really diverse with the things I write, cover different topics, sometimes poetic and sometimes just blatant and straight forward. But I've found writing to be really therapeutic in dealing with my feelings and thoughts.




Awesome! That's some good talent right there and I'm so glad I get to hear the lyrics to a beat! *bookmarked*

FaSho 11-28-2010 05:40 PM

Wow, you ****ing own. Love the mixtape. I really dig sophisticated rap, which is definately what you're putting out.

Dirty 11-29-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 961943)
Wow, you ****ing own. Love the mixtape. I really dig sophisticated rap, which is definately what you're putting out.

Thank you, kind sir. Thanks for downloading the mixtape, i was trying to make something a little more sophisticated lyrically, i'm pretty stoked that is what you got out of it too. :D


:pimp:

otik68 12-04-2010 10:15 AM

I think your the next eminem?

VEGANGELICA 12-07-2010 10:02 AM

Finally, my review of your mixtape
 
Hi Dirty,

I finally listened to your whole collection of songs that I downloaded several weeks ago. I am writing to give you my feedback on each song. I typed up my impressions as I listened, thinking they may be helpful in telling you what features in your songs stand out especially to me:

Mixtape: “Built to Be Filthy” by Dirty Curt

(1) “All Scientific.” This is the second time I’ll listen to the song, so I’m curious what I’ll think now. Here we go! I wonder who is talking in the sultry clip. Is he some famous singer I should know? Nice beat at 1:30. Ah yes...this is a song about your rap prowess! Nice rhythm, rhyming and flow of syllables...for a white guy! ;) I wish you didn’t have all the “mother****ers” and “****s” in the song because they seem overused. I don’t understand the relationship between the lyrics about your abilities to rap and it being all scientific. But the overall song is pleasant. I like the little tinkling notes...rather like stars twinkling in the sky, so the sound seems appropriate since you mention stars in the song.

(2) “Dirty.” Again a sort of sultry beginning. The vocal clip is about racial issues...a comedian. The song is about your mic skills. Ah..so I think the reason you used the clip, which is about derogatory racial stereotyping of black people, is to show how you, as a white man, face racial stereotyping when it comes to your rap music: people don’t expect you to be a proficient rapper because of your ethnicity. Like I wrote before, very good bragging! “I’m a turtle; you all are rabbits. It’s a tortoise race.” That line stuck out for me because I thought it was cute. “Magic mushrooms and peanut butter bread”– that line startled me and so I liked it. Uh-oh. Another “mother****er.” Why not ever “father****er?” I think you should write a song with “father****er” in it, because if you don’t, I think I will! “If you want to be a pussy, hit the litterbox!” Ha ha! That one made me laugh! That was rather clever. However, as the owner of a pussy, I might take slight offense, because women are among the strongest people I know. Is most rap misogynist? “Here I am, clean up on the surface, but dig deep, you’ll see I’m dirty as a wordsmith”– that’s a nice line, since you used assonance rhyming with the words “surface,” “dirty,” and “wordsmith.” I also like the repetition of d’s in dig, deep, and dirty.

(3) “Drunk By Myself (I Miss Ya Kid)” - again, a sultry sound. A sweet song about missing someone, a friend and comrade. Ah. He died. Nice rhyming again. “It’s just another sour shot to blur up my vision as I waste another hour sittin’ drunk reminiscin’ about the good times, the sunshine, the ways that we felt.” Nice lines, those. So, the song is a memorial song. Very moving sentiments. And not a single “mother****er!” ;)

(4) “Goodbye.” Again a sultry beginning. Arghhhhh! More “mother****ers!” Now I KNOW I’m going to do a “father****er” song. :D The soft memories creeping in. I like the romantic introspection in this song. “I saw the world’s reflection in the dark of your eyes”– nice line. “Now I’m ****ing others but I’m calling out your name – it’s not the same” – I like the honesty of this line. “Love will set you free, they say; with me you were in prison, but anyways I hope you get to fly” is a nice summary of the song, I think...you wish someone well and regret that it didn’t work out because the person didn’t have the feelings that could sustain the relationship. The female vocals clip seems very appropriate for the song.

(5) “Hollow” ...I like the beginning; it is flashier than the others. This is the second time I’ve heard the song, and I commented earlier on the lyrics in your thread. I like the violin! I also like it that you layer quite a few musical details (instruments and sounds) in the song. Like I wrote before, many of your songs are about your state of being and are introspective. My favorite line is still, “I’m confused at how it hurts so much to watch your lust turn to love and then back to dust. Was the lemon worth the squeeze?” So far, this is my favorite song on your mixtape, probably because the state it describes isn’t one to long for and you describe it so well. There is a self-centeredness to some of the songs that I thought I’d mention: they seem so inner directed somehow. Most of them are written in first person. I’m curious if you will do any songs that are story songs in 3rd person: “he was a...” etc.

(6) “If I could feel” - once again, the beginning sounds like soul music. Nice vocal clip...very appropriate for the song. Ah! It’s a song about the sadness of war and violence! This must be the song you thought I’d like. The song is about people releasing their pain to free themselves. And you are wishing you could help them do so. I like these nice lines especially: “All the pain that you carrying, give it to me. I say let’s bury it. You know that I would. All the hurt that you’ve been carrying is doing no good. Know I’d feel every ounce of your pain, if I could.” Also, these lines stick in my mind: “It’s evident to me, we’re killing each other. Bunch of pregnant mothers smoking cigarettes who light up another, they’re not protecting what they’ve got in the womb. I think it’s twisted.” (I agree!) So, the song is about how people hurt each other due to the pain people store from the past. Your song is trying to encourage empathy and let people feel free to treat each other well instead of perpetuating a cycle of cruelty and disregard. I like the song and your views in it! So, Dirty, I see we agree on at least *one* thing. ;)

(7) “In God We Trust” - nice pitter-pat of drums at the beginning. Kind of scratchy sounding. The song plunges right into all the horrors in life. I love these lines of yours because they are so blunt and, I feel, true: “The Bible is fictional. Wasn’t meant to be taken by people literal. So let me sat it straight. The real version: Mary was a ****in’ ho with a kid. She’s not a virgin. They’re lying in your preacher’s sermon. Yes, we’ve all been deceived. People die young from rare disease as their prayers go unanswered.” Also, I like the sarcasm and irony in these lines: “Your god is loving but I guess he forgot about the people who used to live in a box. Where is your god again?” And then I was amused by this line: “So suck on my nuts!” You’re so crude! You’re so...dare I say...dirty! :D I like how you end with “ha.” I’d say now that THIS song is my favorite, because you state so boldly that you feel it makes no sense when people claim a god will take care of everything when the world is in such a mess. I’d like to listen to this song more than once.

(8) “Just Remember.” You’ve got some of that scratchy record sound...sorry, I can’t remember the name! You know, when you wiggle the record back and forth. It’s a dead relationship song. “Keep emotions on your sleeve, you ruin shirts” – I like that line. It’s as if you acknowledge that you want to keep emotions on your sleeve, but sometimes doing so isn’t practical, because people will hurt you when you do. “Remember all the ugliness was beautiful once” - another nice line. I like how you discuss the lessons learned and wish the girl well: “I hope you’re doing well in the world...if you ever feel just like you’re falling under, don’t ever hesitate to call me up. You’ve got my number. These are the things I hope you’ll remember.” Those are very comforting lines. The song seemed to end too abruptly, I felt. I like it that many of your songs are very supportive of others.

(9) “Only in America” - partly about people avoiding prison by proving insanity. This song troubled me somewhat because I know of some people who actually *are* suffering from mental illness and face criminal charges. I felt the topic of this song wandered around a little too much, targeting many problems and looking only on the bad side of situations rather than the good side. For example, people with mental illnesses are fortunate when the law treats them less harshly. If you did something awful while suffering from paranoia with delusions, I would hope your sentence would be less than that of the rational person who does the awful deed knowing full well that, say, a drowned child was a child and not a demon from hell. You have very strong views, and I like that you express them, though I think I don’t agree with all the ones you talk about in this song, but I should listen to it again.

(10) “Say What” - this is the second time I’ve heard this song. I like the bouncy beat that comes in around 0:25 ...very peppy. Ah yes...a bragging song. “Writing wraps in the back of a laundry mat” - I liked that line because I find myself writing snatches of this and that in odd places. GAA! The audio clip had *another* mother****er!!! Why do people love the “mother****er” idea so much!? Maybe it’s because they like mothers so much. I suppose, as a mom, that isn’t a bad thing. I agree with you that songs can be too predictable. Your lyrics are clever. “I’ll erase them like an etch-a-sketch.” That line still amuses me.

(11) “Souljah Of Peace.” A tranquil beginning. You like bell-like tones. “I hope every man will examine his conscience” says the vocal clip. “And the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened” – a nice quote with which I agree. Who is the speaker? He must be from the 60s? Ahh...President Kennedy’s murder is mentioned. 1:42 your voice enters...about the arguments and fights, violence, war, loved-ones causing the most pain. “We need to take blame and not excuses” - I like that line. Being strong enough to acknowledge blame and responsibility for wrongs committed is one of the qualities I admire most in people...and governments. “I’ll be a soldier of peace until I die.” That’s a very lovely sentiment, and I see how through your music you are trying to do that, and you are not light-handed about it. I think some people may find your message to be too straight-forward and obvious...but I like that you say what you mean and don’t mince words. You are, I feel, a social activist in your music and aren’t trying to hide that.

(12) “Stay Strong” - YUM! I liked the strong beginning the best of all your songs. I don’t care for the voice that enters, but I like the instrumentals very much. I’d get rid of that whiney voice. Your vocals when they come in are a little faint, I think. 1:08 - arghh! That vocal clip comes in. Please, please, please get rid of it!!!!! Phew! 1:26 and you’re rapping again. The torture ends. Dirty, I can’t stand the vocal clip. I don’t know if that came across strongly or not in my review. ;) Maybe it’s partly because the voice is just slightly out of tune with respect to your music. I like the heavy, somber piano very much because it gives the song intensity, even ferocity. I can’t really follow the meaning of the vocals. Too much reverb? Too faint? And at 3:00 the vocal clip again. I can’t understand what she is saying...but I wish she’d stop saying it!!!!!!!!

(13) “We Be Shining” - a bragging song again. The boasting is pretty boastful, that’s for sure, since you say you’re like the sun! :D So, that’s pretty good bragging. “Bitch.” I noticed that word. I feel there may be too much reverb on your voice. I wish it were a bit crisper. “I shine like the divine.” Ooo! “You suckers should start praying.” Since you said a big part of rapping is bragging, I can’t find fault with the bragging. I didn’t realize until the end that you were in a duo! Your voices sound very similar to me, so they blend well.

(14) “You Wanna Battle.” The song has a nice, lilting soul-like feeling. “I’ll disembowel you right now” - the lyrics seem in odd contrast with the almost happy-sounding song! Maybe it shows how rapping is peaceful war. Ooo! “I admit it I’m a pussy, but you are what you eat!” Clever line! You admit to the other rappers that you are supposedly weak, but then stick it to them by saying you’re that way because you have a lot of sex, supposedly an achievement among competing young males. I like how you take a potential putdown and turn it into something you feel is positive about you. The song ended too abruptly, I feel.

Overall summary: I enjoyed listening to the songs, Dirty. Your playful, creative rhyming makes me think I may not be as indifferent to rapping as I thought I was. Have you ever considered breaking up a song by inserting sections where you actually sing? I felt the songs became fairly repetitive musically. Your lyrics were always interesting, but once a song started with a certain beat, or a certain set of sounds, it usually retained them to the very end, and so I found myself wanting more changes or musical development within a song. Thanks for sharing your music! I haven’t listened to much rap, but I felt yours surpassed many rap songs that I’ve heard because of the complexity and messages of your lyrics.

MoonlitSunshine 12-07-2010 02:35 PM

I'm gonna be brutally honest here because... well, there's no other way to be really, no point in mixing your words, eh? (though the irony of such a phrase in this thread isn't lost of me :P)

When I first saw this thread, I opened it with the intention of seeing if I was right about the kind of person you are. In general, I find your posts to be kind of annoying; you seem to enjoy provoking a reaction more than actually contributing to any discussion, and revel in aggravating people. You are quite often brash, uncaring, brutish and callous, but I can't quite figure out if it's because you don't care, you're really like that, or you're just joking around because you find it fun.

I expected rhymes about how awesome you are, about how women should know their place and come back with a goddamn sandwich, things said in order to raise a reaction from as many people as possible.

I found a series of well formed, (fairly) well produced (I have my qualms, which I will come to!), and surprisingly insightful and thoughtful subject matter. yeah, you have your fun every now and then, but I enjoyed listening to every track, and they have a mellow... optimism, to them, that I wasn't expecting. I downloaded the Tape, and I'm listening to it for a second time now cause it makes exceptional background music :)

In some of the tracks, the vocals are too prominent; they stand out so much that it doesn't sound natural at all. "Hollow" to me has the right balance, whereas Scientific, for example, isn't. All however as still very much enjoyable, and insightful, and I'm glad I took the time for read and listen to this thread, if not for the reasons I thought!

Dirty 12-08-2010 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 966521)
I'm gonna be brutally honest here because... well, there's no other way to be really, no point in mixing your words, eh? (though the irony of such a phrase in this thread isn't lost of me :P)

When I first saw this thread, I opened it with the intention of seeing if I was right about the kind of person you are. In general, I find your posts to be kind of annoying; you seem to enjoy provoking a reaction more than actually contributing to any discussion, and revel in aggravating people. You are quite often brash, uncaring, brutish and callous, but I can't quite figure out if it's because you don't care, you're really like that, or you're just joking around because you find it fun.

I expected rhymes about how awesome you are, about how women should know their place and come back with a goddamn sandwich, things said in order to raise a reaction from as many people as possible.

I found a series of well formed, (fairly) well produced (I have my qualms, which I will come to!), and surprisingly insightful and thoughtful subject matter. yeah, you have your fun every now and then, but I enjoyed listening to every track, and they have a mellow... optimism, to them, that I wasn't expecting. I downloaded the Tape, and I'm listening to it for a second time now cause it makes exceptional background music :)

In some of the tracks, the vocals are too prominent; they stand out so much that it doesn't sound natural at all. "Hollow" to me has the right balance, whereas Scientific, for example, isn't. All however as still very much enjoyable, and insightful, and I'm glad I took the time for read and listen to this thread, if not for the reasons I thought!

Well regarding my posts... I'd describe some of my posts as taking my true thoughts and opinions on things and cranking them up a little bit. I don't take the internet so seriously. So I can see how some people would get the wrong impression, but I think a lot of it is just jumping to assumptions and conclusions by other MB members. Somehow not being attracted to hairy women equates to me thinking women are less than human or something.

But thank you very much for the response and critique. I agree with what you have to say about the vocals. They were actually even louder in most of the songs and then we turned them down somewhat. I don't think the beat and words gel as well as they could, but we aren't professionals or anything. We are two guys who just record and produce everything on a portable studio in a garage, so all things considered I think the production and everything sound pretty good. If I had a real studio to record in and some more people who know what they are doing production wise I think it would sounds even better, but it's not like I'm trying to get a record label or anything so I'm pretty happy with the product (even though on a few songs I rushed the endings lyrically cause I was running out of time).

Dirty 12-08-2010 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 966356)
Hi Dirty,

Overall summary: I enjoyed listening to the songs, Dirty. Your playful, creative rhyming makes me think I may not be as indifferent to rapping as I thought I was. Have you ever considered breaking up a song by inserting sections where you actually sing? I felt the songs became fairly repetitive musically. Your lyrics were always interesting, but once a song started with a certain beat, or a certain set of sounds, it usually retained them to the very end, and so I found myself wanting more changes or musical development within a song. Thanks for sharing your music! I haven’t listened to much rap, but I felt yours surpassed many rap songs that I’ve heard because of the complexity and messages of your lyrics.

Vegan, i can't say how much I appreciate your full critique and opinions of the songs :thumb:Thank you very much! Not many people have really told me what they did and did not like and I appreciate your honesty. If I Could Feel was the song I thought you would like the most as it touches on a different topic lyrically than a lot of rap... Which is what I was trying to do with a lot of the songs on this mixtape. I'd really like to mix up musically like you said, I just don't have a good singing voice. I've been hoping to have a female on my tracks to add some variety, but I've mainly just been using samples from other songs to mix things up. I want to do more creative things though, so I'm going to see what I cna come up with. One thing I have tentatively planned for the future is a collaboration with a local hardcore band. Gonna try to do something with some heavy guitar and drums and rap, we'll see how it turns out.

The part in bold is exactly what I hoped many people would gather from these tunes so that makes me happy :D Thank you for giving it a chance Vegan :clap:

Also looking forward to hearing your "fatherfucker song

Janszoon 12-08-2010 07:39 AM

Hey Dirty, I'm really digging the songs you have on here. I'm going to have to download that mixtape I think.

Dirty 12-08-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 966958)
Hey Dirty, I'm really digging the songs you have on here. I'm going to have to download that mixtape I think.

:hphones:

Go for it :bringit:... Even for me, there are songs that are hit or miss. I don't really like We Be Shinin, You Wanna Battle, and I should have redone Stay Strong (one of the first songs i ever made)... But it's like that with pretty much every CD or mixtape or whatever. But I think there are at least a few song sont here for everybody.


Vegan, in case you were wondering in Souljah Of Peace, the beginning speech sample is Ted kennedy I believe.. Follow by the news report of John F. Kennedy being shot.

Hollow is my favorite song I've ever done. I wrote and recorded it before any of the other songs on the mixtape except Stay Strong and Only In America and I just love it, perhaps because it was really personal to me.

Janszoon 12-08-2010 07:59 AM

Just downloaded it. Is there an actual defined sequence to these tracks? If so, can you post it so I can tag them appropriately? Right now they're just in alphabetical order.

Dirty 12-08-2010 08:03 AM

I had an order that I liked but when my buddy uploaded them it went all alphabetical. I'm not at my laptop so I can't remember the exact order I had them. So I guess the short answer is no.


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