Which comes first, chorus or verses?

WeAreUnwritten · 06-01-2011, 04:56 PM

Acually, is this a question about order of writing (as in 'i thought up the chorus first') or about the structure of the song itself (as in 'it goes verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus)?
I think people are expressing conflicting views while answering a completely different question

Blarobbarg · 06-03-2011, 11:35 PM

Does "lyric block" fit into verse or chorus? Because most of my songs don't have verses or choruses, they just have several sections of lyrics.

VeggieLover · 06-03-2011, 11:41 PM

My songs generally tell a story or show an emotional progression, so the verse is almost always the place I start. My choruses are like my thesis statement, I usually write them last if at all so that they can encompass the idea of a song as a whole. I usually struggle with chord structure transitions from the verse to the chorus and bridges are particularly difficult, but the words aren't usually a problem. I agree, the most natural approach is probably going to produce the most listenable results... although I do like to write down random snatches of lyric that sound good while i improvise and then piece them together on paper so that I don't forget them. After all, how can I share my genius (ha) with people if I can't remember it?

~~Noah Bonez~~ · 06-07-2011, 04:40 AM

verse, or a bridge

Howard the Duck · 06-07-2011, 08:55 AM

when in doubt consult the epigrammatic Nirvana song Verse Chorus Verse

i write the Verse, Chorus, 2nd Verse, (repeat first Verse), bridge, (Chorus) in that order

djchameleon · 06-07-2011, 10:49 AM

I write chorus first to give myself a general idea of what I want the song to be about then I go through and write the verses.

Depending on the song I may use the first two lines of the chorus as an intro then go into verse 1 then the full chorus verse 2 small bridge then outro chorus.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 06-07-2011, 10:30 PM

Still say choruses are for weaklings.

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-08-2011, 10:29 AM

usually a verse is used to tell a story or something but the best or climactic beat is done in the chorus.

no matter which comes first (which is usually the verse), it should be meaningful

Howard the Duck · 06-08-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Virgin

usually a verse is used to tell a story or something but the best or climactic beat is done in the chorus.

no matter which comes first (which is usually the verse), it should be meaningful

um, hello? this is asking people who write music

~~[MERIT]~~ · 06-10-2011, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce

um, hello? this is asking people who write music

So when does your LP come out then?

View Poll Results: Which do you write first?
Chorus	5	27.78%
Verse	13	72.22%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

06-01-2011, 04:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
WeAreUnwritten Groupie Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4	Acually, is this a question about order of writing (as in 'i thought up the chorus first') or about the structure of the song itself (as in 'it goes verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus)? I think people are expressing conflicting views while answering a completely different question __________________ I'm watching the night sky as loneliness sinks in I don't know where I am or where I've just been...

06-03-2011, 11:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
VeggieLover Music?! Lets boogie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CO Posts: 215	My songs generally tell a story or show an emotional progression, so the verse is almost always the place I start. My choruses are like my thesis statement, I usually write them last if at all so that they can encompass the idea of a song as a whole. I usually struggle with chord structure transitions from the verse to the chorus and bridges are particularly difficult, but the words aren't usually a problem. I agree, the most natural approach is probably going to produce the most listenable results... although I do like to write down random snatches of lyric that sound good while i improvise and then piece them together on paper so that I don't forget them. After all, how can I share my genius (ha) with people if I can't remember it? __________________ "Not remotely! Because iocaine comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you."

06-03-2011, 11:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
Blarobbarg Do good. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 2,065	Does "lyric block" fit into verse or chorus? Because most of my songs don't have verses or choruses, they just have several sections of lyrics.

06-07-2011, 04:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
~~Noah Bonez~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 24	verse, or a bridge

06-08-2011, 10:29 AM	#28 (permalink)
~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	usually a verse is used to tell a story or something but the best or climactic beat is done in the chorus. no matter which comes first (which is usually the verse), it should be meaningful