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Mucha na Dziko 12-31-2021 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2195580)
let's do this

I've sent the e-mail

There's three tracks, each with a different vibe, cause you didn't give me any guidelines

I hope you like at least one of them

I'm trying my best to play the trumpet in the last one, so if that's the one you like, but the trumpet not so much, then I have a version without it too

Mucha na Dziko 12-31-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195567)

What format do you want the tracks in?
MP3?

Tristan_Geoff 12-31-2021 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2195631)
What format do you want the tracks in?
MP3?

Wav please!

Mucha na Dziko 12-31-2021 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195634)
Wav please!

oops, I've just sent one with mp3s

Wait a sec

Mucha na Dziko 12-31-2021 09:50 AM

I've just sent you the correct one

Tristan_Geoff 12-31-2021 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2195638)
I've just sent you the correct one

Received, really liking Dancing in the 50s

Mucha na Dziko 12-31-2021 10:26 AM

yeah, me too

thanks

Marie Monday 01-01-2022 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2195629)
I've sent the e-mail

There's three tracks, each with a different vibe, cause you didn't give me any guidelines

I hope you like at least one of them

I'm trying my best to play the trumpet in the last one, so if that's the one you like, but the trumpet not so much, then I have a version without it too

Thanks man! Things are busy now but I'll get to it asap

Mucha na Dziko 01-01-2022 09:11 AM

Will it be possible for you Tristan to mail me one of these cassettes once you do them?

Tristan_Geoff 01-01-2022 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2195818)
Will it be possible for you Tristan to mail me one of these cassettes once you do them?

Yes! If u played on it I’ll mail u one for free, also I’ll try to split profit 4 ways between us all

Tristan_Geoff 01-02-2022 03:52 PM

Hey btw Mucha, what genres would you say influence your music on these tracks? I'm particularly interested about No Samym Połundnia! The guitar strumming reminds me of MPB for example but I figure that it's probably not where you found your influence. Some of these tracks are more psychedelic rock or raga rock but Dancing in the 50's is unfamiliar to me as well genre wise but sounds more beatles-esque and waltzy.

I love these tracks and the different instrumentation in them, really dreamy and will put you daydreaming off in a hazier, possibly forlorn but more accurately bittersweet yet nostalgic place.

Tristan_Geoff 01-02-2022 04:01 PM

https://i.imgur.com/wbvE2te.png

Current j-card update

Tristan_Geoff 01-02-2022 04:01 PM

btw whats the font for this site?

Mindfulness 01-02-2022 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195913)
https://i.imgur.com/wbvE2te.png

Current j-card update

:love:

Tristan_Geoff 01-02-2022 04:12 PM

Oh I meant to say!! Partial of the cover art is credit to Mindfulness!

Tristan_Geoff 01-02-2022 09:44 PM

btw new deadline is jan 30th

Mucha na Dziko 01-07-2022 04:45 AM

Hi, I'm sorry for the delay
I went with my parents and my little sister to a cabin in the woods, down by the seaside, so I hadn't much internet there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195912)
Hey btw Mucha, what genres would you say influence your music on these tracks?

You know, usually I don't think in terms of genres, especially when talking about inspiration. Usually I'm just making music, inspired by a song, or a feeling, or a situation I've been in, etc.
When I think too much about the music I'm making then I'm not making much music at all.
And that's what's happening to me for the last 2-3 months or so. That's why I have far less tracks coming out on my soundcloud account.

I like to think of the songs I make as belonging to the genre "Gustaw Witomski"

But, I'll try to decipher the basic influence




Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195912)
I'm particularly interested about No Samym Połundniu!

That's a funny one actually.

You see, my parents bought an apartment in the south of France a couple of years ago.
In a lovely town called Sète.

(it was home to George Brassens – a French poet and musician, I don't know whether you know him for not [if not: check him out]).

Last year, I've thought of inviting some friends over there. Me and my girlfriend were staying there for over a month, and people where allowed to come in and out whenever they wanted.
I've invited my best friend (who also happens to be the guitarist of my band) and his girlfriend, my friends from high school, and among them - Winceny (Vincent).

We were great friends back then (not so much currently, and not so much when I was recording the track), and he was supposed to come during the last week of my stay there.

He wasn't much of a musician.

During those holidays I was playing around with some chords, that I didn't know where to put, and on the first day Wincenty came he said he wanted to learn to play reggae (so, you know, we could smoke a joint and play some reggae).

So I taught him the basic thing of hitting on the one and on the off-beat, and as he couldn't play the chords, I played guitar and he played bass. He was struggling to play, so I told him to just play the root notes.
And I started to play the chords that I had laying around.

And then it happened. We had just two-three chords, but the joy we had from playing that thing was just otherworldly. We spent the whole week playing just this one song.

It didn't have much to do with Reggae.

Because he came right at noon, and we smoked a joint before playing it, we called it "Na Samym Południu" (which is a wordplay in polish on the title of the film "High Noon". In polish the movie is called "W Samo Południe" (which means "Right at Noon" while "Na Samym Południu" means "On The Far South", so...where we were at)

Afterwards I went back home, to where I've then lived – Paris (I hated to live there. It was an emotional nightmare).
At the time I've listened to a lot to "Analog Africa" (the label) and Ananda Shankar.
In the original recordings we played it on electric bass and acoustic guitar, and the only part that exited so far was the third one (The Am to Emaj loop).

I wrote the Dmaj and Emin parts alone, and then arranged (acoustic guitar; classical guitar; sitar; piano; electric bass; tambourine; tape loops) and recorded the song.

So, what it was supposed to be was reggae, but then it turned into jam music, and then I turned it into what it is now after listening to a lot of 70s African recordings.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195912)
The guitar strumming reminds me of MPB for
example but I figure that it's probably not where you found your influence.

I have no idea what's MPB, so I guess that's not where I've found my influence.
Is it worth checking out?
What kind of music is it?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195912)
Some of these tracks are more psychedelic rock or raga rock but Dancing in the 50's is unfamiliar to me as well genre wise but sounds more beatles-esque and waltzy.

I wrote it after discovering you can play the whole guitar neck down with chords half-step apart.
I really liked how it was adding this jazzy feel to progressions, so I started playing around and what came out was the part with the „you look for someone” line.

I think it’s that half-step walk down that gives the track it’s „beatle feel”. Maybe also the Bmin chord at the near end of each loop.
Anyway, I’m a massive Beatles fanatic, so no wonder they influence probably anything I do.

Then I added the II-V-I part that comes afterwards.

The thing started to sound to me like something you could do a slow dance to during prom in the 50s, but felt a bit jazzy at the same time, and I wanted to really make it seem that way with the guitar solo.
Strangely enough I recorded it in 3 takes if I remember correctly, which is one hell of a feat for me, as usually I need more like 20-30 takes to get a nice solo done.

Needless to say, I’m pretty happy with the effect.

So basically the song has the „slow dance late at night somewhere during the 50s” (imaginary) genre influence.


Mine Are Fine

My then-girlfriend was a shoegaze/new wave/grunge fan, and she never really enjoyed the music I was making at the time.
I mean, yeah, sure, she did like it occasionally, but in a general matter...I wasn't her favourite artist.

So basically I wanted to make myself a challenge of making a song that would fit her taste in music.

Anyway, I just got my first delay pedal, and I managed to acquire two additional amps with built in distortion.
After listening to some ****ty modern rock music, I turned up the delay and distortion and started to slide my fingers up and down the fretboard to find something cool sounding, and what came out pretty instantly was the final riff.

The rest was fairly easy. Apart from the solo, which, as mentioned above, I've spent 30 or something takes to get right. I'm very proud of it though, especially compositionally wise, as it was the first time I've consciously changed keys in a song.

Long story short, she did like it, but she dumped me anyway 6 months ago, after three years together.
There's still this cool song though

So the influences would be shoe gaze and 2000s rock I guess


まだ !

Here I actually have two artists who specifically influenced the song.
Just before writing it I discovered Donovan (I knew he existed, but prior to this I've never particularly listened to him), and at the same time I discovered Shintaro Sakamoto (a Japanese musician, he had a cult band in the 80s an 90s, and in the early 2000 he started a solo career - miles ahead of his previous work - if you don't know him, I highly recommend you check out his album "Love If Possible" and then work your way from there).

The bassline was the first to get made. I was amazed at myself that I can write such a weird thing, and it's feel reminded me of Donovan's work somehow.
So I wanted to make the whole song sound "donovanish", but after recording the whole instrumental thing I thought it might be better to go the Sakamoto way and I improvised a vocal line that was supposed to sound "Japanese".

It wasn't supposed to mean anything, just have this Japanese feel, but it turns out some of the words actually do mean something, like "まだ" (the title, "mada") that means "more".

All in all, Sakamoto and Donovan.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195912)
I love these tracks and the different instrumentation in them, really dreamy and will put you daydreaming off in a hazier, possibly forlorn but more accurately bittersweet yet nostalgic place.


Thanks

I guess my default state of mind is bittersweet and nostalgic.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2195851)
Yes! If u played on it I’ll mail u one for free, also I’ll try to split profit 4 ways between us all

Oh, that’s cool

:beer:

Tristan_Geoff 01-13-2022 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2196167)
Hi, I'm sorry for the delay
I went with my parents and my little sister to a cabin in the woods, down by the seaside, so I hadn't much internet there.



You know, usually I don't think in terms of genres, especially when talking about inspiration. Usually I'm just making music, inspired by a song, or a feeling, or a situation I've been in, etc.
When I think too much about the music I'm making then I'm not making much music at all.
And that's what's happening to me for the last 2-3 months or so. That's why I have far less tracks coming out on my soundcloud account.

I like to think of the songs I make as belonging to the genre "Gustaw Witomski"

But, I'll try to decipher the basic influence






That's a funny one actually.

You see, my parents bought an apartment in the south of France a couple of years ago.
In a lovely town called Sète.

(it was home to George Brassens – a French poet and musician, I don't know whether you know him for not [if not: check him out]).

Last year, I've thought of inviting some friends over there. Me and my girlfriend were staying there for over a month, and people where allowed to come in and out whenever they wanted.
I've invited my best friend (who also happens to be the guitarist of my band) and his girlfriend, my friends from high school, and among them - Winceny (Vincent).

We were great friends back then (not so much currently, and not so much when I was recording the track), and he was supposed to come during the last week of my stay there.

He wasn't much of a musician.

During those holidays I was playing around with some chords, that I didn't know where to put, and on the first day Wincenty came he said he wanted to learn to play reggae (so, you know, we could smoke a joint and play some reggae).

So I taught him the basic thing of hitting on the one and on the off-beat, and as he couldn't play the chords, I played guitar and he played bass. He was struggling to play, so I told him to just play the root notes.
And I started to play the chords that I had laying around.

And then it happened. We had just two-three chords, but the joy we had from playing that thing was just otherworldly. We spent the whole week playing just this one song.

It didn't have much to do with Reggae.

Because he came right at noon, and we smoked a joint before playing it, we called it "Na Samym Południu" (which is a wordplay in polish on the title of the film "High Noon". In polish the movie is called "W Samo Południe" (which means "Right at Noon" while "Na Samym Południu" means "On The Far South", so...where we were at)

Afterwards I went back home, to where I've then lived – Paris (I hated to live there. It was an emotional nightmare).
At the time I've listened to a lot to "Analog Africa" (the label) and Ananda Shankar.
In the original recordings we played it on electric bass and acoustic guitar, and the only part that exited so far was the third one (The Am to Emaj loop).

I wrote the Dmaj and Emin parts alone, and then arranged (acoustic guitar; classical guitar; sitar; piano; electric bass; tambourine; tape loops) and recorded the song.

So, what it was supposed to be was reggae, but then it turned into jam music, and then I turned it into what it is now after listening to a lot of 70s African recordings.




I have no idea what's MPB, so I guess that's not where I've found my influence.
Is it worth checking out?
What kind of music is it?





I wrote it after discovering you can play the whole guitar neck down with chords half-step apart.
I really liked how it was adding this jazzy feel to progressions, so I started playing around and what came out was the part with the „you look for someone” line.

I think it’s that half-step walk down that gives the track it’s „beatle feel”. Maybe also the Bmin chord at the near end of each loop.
Anyway, I’m a massive Beatles fanatic, so no wonder they influence probably anything I do.

Then I added the II-V-I part that comes afterwards.

The thing started to sound to me like something you could do a slow dance to during prom in the 50s, but felt a bit jazzy at the same time, and I wanted to really make it seem that way with the guitar solo.
Strangely enough I recorded it in 3 takes if I remember correctly, which is one hell of a feat for me, as usually I need more like 20-30 takes to get a nice solo done.

Needless to say, I’m pretty happy with the effect.

So basically the song has the „slow dance late at night somewhere during the 50s” (imaginary) genre influence.


Mine Are Fine

My then-girlfriend was a shoegaze/new wave/grunge fan, and she never really enjoyed the music I was making at the time.
I mean, yeah, sure, she did like it occasionally, but in a general matter...I wasn't her favourite artist.

So basically I wanted to make myself a challenge of making a song that would fit her taste in music.

Anyway, I just got my first delay pedal, and I managed to acquire two additional amps with built in distortion.
After listening to some ****ty modern rock music, I turned up the delay and distortion and started to slide my fingers up and down the fretboard to find something cool sounding, and what came out pretty instantly was the final riff.

The rest was fairly easy. Apart from the solo, which, as mentioned above, I've spent 30 or something takes to get right. I'm very proud of it though, especially compositionally wise, as it was the first time I've consciously changed keys in a song.

Long story short, she did like it, but she dumped me anyway 6 months ago, after three years together.
There's still this cool song though

So the influences would be shoe gaze and 2000s rock I guess


まだ !

Here I actually have two artists who specifically influenced the song.
Just before writing it I discovered Donovan (I knew he existed, but prior to this I've never particularly listened to him), and at the same time I discovered Shintaro Sakamoto (a Japanese musician, he had a cult band in the 80s an 90s, and in the early 2000 he started a solo career - miles ahead of his previous work - if you don't know him, I highly recommend you check out his album "Love If Possible" and then work your way from there).

The bassline was the first to get made. I was amazed at myself that I can write such a weird thing, and it's feel reminded me of Donovan's work somehow.
So I wanted to make the whole song sound "donovanish", but after recording the whole instrumental thing I thought it might be better to go the Sakamoto way and I improvised a vocal line that was supposed to sound "Japanese".

It wasn't supposed to mean anything, just have this Japanese feel, but it turns out some of the words actually do mean something, like "まだ" (the title, "mada") that means "more".

All in all, Sakamoto and Donovan.





Thanks

I guess my default state of mind is bittersweet and nostalgic.




Oh, that’s cool

:beer:

No worries, I've been at the beach so sorry for late response getting back to this. It's really cool where you gained your inspiration from these songs and how you combined all these elements to make something incredibly unique!

Mucha na Dziko 01-23-2022 03:16 PM

So what's the news?

Did anybody else send their tracks?


It feels kinda empty here:

You don't hear anything from the other people who wish to be on the compilation

Did you do or send your tracks already?
What tracks are they?
Can you link something you did?


I'm just curious of the musical talents and choices

Mucha na Dziko 01-23-2022 03:20 PM

:dj:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2194600)
I could upright just sign you to my label if you wish.

Don't I need to sign some contract actually?

:bonkhead::love::afro:

Marie Monday 01-23-2022 03:45 PM

I still haven't set myself to writing :(

Tristan_Geoff 01-23-2022 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2197453)
So what's the news?

Did anybody else send their tracks?


It feels kinda empty here:

You don't hear anything from the other people who wish to be on the compilation

Did you do or send your tracks already?
What tracks are they?
Can you link something you did?


I'm just curious of the musical talents and choices

I set a deadline but not really sure if the others are gonna submit in time or at all yet, but I can share what I did in a few minutes thru the mb bandcamp page.

As far as the signing you to my label thing goes we do a release to release basis type thing but theres no contract as we are a shoestring budget label lol. Just PM me and I’ll work it out with you.

Tristan_Geoff 01-23-2022 05:33 PM

Btw Mucha, would you care if I uploaded your tracks to our bandcamp page as well? Then everyone on here can see what we have so far of the compilation

YorkeDaddy 01-24-2022 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2197453)
So what's the news?

Did anybody else send their tracks?


It feels kinda empty here:

You don't hear anything from the other people who wish to be on the compilation

Did you do or send your tracks already?
What tracks are they?
Can you link something you did?


I'm just curious of the musical talents and choices

I've sent Tristan a few tracks, I'm just kinda letting him choose if or which tracks he wants to use from the selection.

Mucha na Dziko 01-24-2022 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2197462)
Btw Mucha, would you care if I uploaded your tracks to our bandcamp page as well? Then everyone on here can see what we have so far of the compilation

Sure, no problem

Tristan_Geoff 01-24-2022 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2197506)
I've sent Tristan a few tracks, I'm just kinda letting him choose if or which tracks he wants to use from the selection.

Alla dem!!

Tristan_Geoff 01-24-2022 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2197515)
Sure, no problem

https://artistsofmb.bandcamp.com/alb...ember-showcase

YorkeDaddy 01-24-2022 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2197518)
Alla dem!!

lol, Sudden Drop Off and Blind Jump are my personal picks for inclusion

Tristan_Geoff 01-24-2022 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2197519)

Here's all the tracks that have been submitted thus far

Frownland 01-24-2022 05:01 PM

Still working on my track, hoping to slide in beneath the deadline.

Tristan_Geoff 01-24-2022 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2197550)
Still working on my track, hoping to slide in beneath the deadline.

If you wanna use previously released tracks that’s ok too, you have a bit less than 15 minutes (correcting from the earlier 30 minute claim) to fill up

Plankton 01-27-2022 08:16 AM

I'll throw this on the pile if there's room:

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10320406

YorkeDaddy 01-27-2022 09:26 AM

Holy **** I love Frown’s track lmao

Tristan_Geoff 01-27-2022 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2197753)
I'll throw this on the pile if there's room:

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10320406

No room anymore sorry, we made it into a 4 way split album

Plankton 01-27-2022 10:40 AM

Okee dokee smokee

Mucha na Dziko 01-28-2022 02:56 AM

You can always cut one of my tracks to fit Plankton’s

The more, the merrier

Tristan_Geoff 01-28-2022 04:41 AM

Okie actually plankton sorry for being stingy earlier I can fit you in, just at the expense of Frown’s second track. Sorry Frown.

Tristan_Geoff 01-28-2022 04:55 AM

Cool now that the cassette is filled up (and here's the tracks for it: https://artistsofmb.bandcamp.com/alb...ember-showcase ) I can start dubbing tapes and I'll probably properly release this through my label February 1st.

Our cassettes don't sell very well heh so I was wondering if payment for y'all could be as simple as receiving a free tape? If not we can work out a 5-way payment system in the event that any of them sell but I expect people off the forum to be the ones buying it anyways.

YorkeDaddy 01-28-2022 05:45 AM

Homie even if this does make money don’t send me any, this ain’t about the money it’s about the tunes

Plankton 01-28-2022 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2197852)
You can always cut one of my tracks to fit Plankton’s

The more, the merrier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2197857)
Okie actually plankton sorry for being stingy earlier I can fit you in, just at the expense of Frown’s second track. Sorry Frown.

Aw, thanks guys. No worries man, I know the struggles of project managing these things. It's all good and thank you for 'wiggling' me in.

I'm with Yorke on the $$ thing too.


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