Violent & Funky

Ah, the stuffy types like Pitchfork who deride the Chili Peppers for being obnoxious, attention whores who wanted fame too badly should really watch more clips like that one posted above. It's about the funk, and the attention (at least early on in their career) was part of their showmanship. It's what made them who they are. Somebody has to do it that way, and they are one of the best ever...

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sometimes I don't thrill you
sometimes I think I'll kill you
just don't let me fuck up will you
'cause when I need a friend it's still you

Necromancer

Come on Bro, the RHCP's are nothing more than 'noise' compared to real funk music and artist, they can get funky but I would in no way suggest that they are funk, they're not that good! lol..

That^is a good definition for describing Funk music.

Violent & Funky

Funk can't be "noisy"? Funk at its core is "dirty" and "noisy", not clean and overproduced...

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sometimes I don't thrill you
sometimes I think I'll kill you
just don't let me fuck up will you
'cause when I need a friend it's still you

Seltzer

Sorry, I meant funk rock (not funk). And like V&F says, funk (and especially funk rock) is inherently dirty and raw... once it becomes too slick, it's heading into disco territory. That's not to say that funk can't be smooth and well-produced as bands like Pleasure and the Brothers Johnson demonstrate - but even then, the funk is still undoubtedly there (see this track for example). That Kravitz video you posted strikes me a mildly groovy pop song and I don't see how you can consider him real funk while discounting RHCP who had songs like this:



Pretty much... and while RHCP is hardly the be all and end all of funk it really annoys me when elitists proclaim that they're not the real thing and should therefore be shunned. Would people honestly prefer it if they'd become just another generic funk band stuck in the 70s instead of bringing something new to the table as they did?


Ah, the Isley Brothers are fantastic and that song is no exception.

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Necromancer

I dont know what you mean by "Funk at its core is dirty and noisy", if you mean the RHCP's style, then yes, I consider the RHCP's are more of a Punk Funk/Rap Rock band anyway.
Artist like Lenny Kravitz, Prince, & Maroon 5, just to name a few that are classified within the Funk Rock genre are not dirty and noisy sounding, dont get me wrong, the RHCP's have done alot in helping to bring the Funk Rock genre more mainstream and I am not trying to discount the RHCP's music, I am only trying to point out that most traditional (Funk) is not noisy and dirty sounding as suggested.
But then on the other hand, you have Jimi Hendrix, (whom most consider him as one of the main innovators of the Funk Rock genre), what I find when most people are discussing the subject of Funk Rock, they mainly describe the Funk part and say nothing about the Rock aspect of the genre itself, would'nt Rock be where the noisy and dirty sound originates more so than the Funk aspect.