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YorkeDaddy 01-30-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1411778)
I am talking about for the mass majority as an overall league. I am not talking about for those few exceptions. You know just as well as I do that players jump from team to team more than what they have in previous eras.

Clyde the Glide moved to the Rockets. Dennis Rodman moved to the Pistons' biggest rival. Bill Walton moved around nonstop. Shaq moved to the Lakers. Oakley moved to the Knicks. Payton and Kemp went all over the place. My man Dominique moved all over the place after leaving the Hawks. Parish left the Celtics. Ewing left the Knicks and played for two other teams. Barkley played for 3 different teams. Horry moved around everywhere too. Hakeem the Dream ditched the Rockets at the end of his career. Dr. J and Wilt both moved to try and further their careers. Jordan even went to the Wizards AND left his team in the trash heap for two years so he could pursue baseball for god sakes. Please do some research. All of this is basic knowledge of NBA history. Players move around just as much today as they did in the 80s and 90s.

Soulflower 01-30-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1411779)
No, I was talking about use of the English language.




It would either be "lazier" or "more lazy" :)

Ooo lol thanks

YorkeDaddy 01-30-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1411786)
Ooo lol thanks

nice response to your entire argument getting totally torched

FRED HALE SR. 01-30-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1411797)
nice response to your entire argument getting totally torched

Well actually she was right about the hall of famers on the 80's teams. The argument regarding talent pool is a bit off base. The NBA has never had a better group of talent to pull from. It really started with the influx of europeans. Also anybody that doesn't acknowledge that Lebron James is the best player in the NBA, can't be taken seriously in a debate.

YorkeDaddy 01-30-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1411801)
Well actually she was right about the hall of famers on the 80's teams. The argument regarding talent pool is a bit off base. The NBA has never had a better group of talent to pull from. It really started with the influx of europeans. Also anybody that doesn't acknowledge that Lebron James is the best player in the NBA, can't be taken seriously in a debate.

She was also arguing that players were more loyal or something in the 80's and I proceeded to list like 80% of the stars from the 80's and 90's and every single one of them moved teams. Also, I listed multiple recent teams with 3+ hall of famers, which apparently counts for nothing.

What bothers me the most is the blatant disrespect for Dwyane Wade. His career stats are basically identical to Kobe's, he has 3 rings, a Finals MVP, a scoring title, has been amongst the best defensive guards in basketball his whole career, and has made 10 all-star games. That someone can try and say he's not one of the greatest ever is just being a pure, immature, biased hater, through and through.

FRED HALE SR. 01-30-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1411804)
She was also arguing that players were more loyal or something in the 80's and I proceeded to list like 80% of the stars from the 80's and 90's and every single one of them moved teams. Also, I listed multiple recent teams with 3+ hall of famers, which apparently counts for nothing.

What bothers me the most is the blatant disrespect for Dwyane Wade. His career stats are basically identical to Kobe's, he has 3 rings, a Finals MVP, a scoring title, has been amongst the best defensive guards in basketball his whole career, and has made 10 all-star games. That someone can try and say he's not one of the greatest ever is just being a pure, immature, biased hater, through and through.


Free agency has been a big boon since the early 80's I agree with your assessment. There is no denying that D-Wade is a first ballot hall of famer when he hangs it up. Even with diminishing skills he is certainly in alot of top 25 players in the league discussions. Add to that his knack for playing his best in big games and there really is no argument. I don't see Miami missing the Finals again this year, they still have way too many weapons in a 7 game series.

butthead aka 216 01-30-2014 01:47 PM

Id respond more frequent n in depth if I wasn't on mobile. Wade is incredibly disrespected when ppl think of all time greats.

Lebrons the best player. Its not close.... durant will win mvp but if u watch the games lebron is tge best. He will be the best player ever imo. Hes just incredible

Wpnfire 01-30-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1411806)
Id respond more frequent n in depth if I wasn't on mobile. Wade is incredibly disrespected when ppl think of all time greats.

Lebrons the best player. Its not close.... durant will win mvp but if u watch the games lebron is tge best. He will be the best player ever imo. Hes just incredible

I can fill in the rest for you. Dwyane Wade/Flash/D-Wade is a top 5, all-time Shooting guard. Anyone who says they can guard Wade is lying: when Wade is on his game he is just as dangerous as KD (he also has a scoring title). Defensively, he is also the leader in blocks among all players 6-4 and under (and this is 11 years into his career at age 31!) The guy's blocked Dwight Howard NUMEROUS times.

By far LeBron is the best player in the league. A few years ago he reminded me of Andre Igudola in that he can do basically everything except shoot outside, but last year he rectified that BIG TIME. 40% on three's, with over 200 attempted–are you * me!?! He really made San Antonio pay in game 7 last year for leaving him open out there. Yeah so there's no longer any possible doubt he's the best (in reality, he's been the best since he came to Miami, and possibly a few years before that too).

YorkeDaddy 01-30-2014 02:34 PM

I honestly believe Durant has evolved into a better scorer than LeBron at this point. I fully believe LeBron could still average 35-40 a night if he wanted to but thats not his game or personality. Durant is just automatic from ANYWHERE its honestly incredible. He could become the greatest pure scorer of all-time, but he still doesn't quite have the impeccable complete two-way production that LeBron has perfected.

butthead aka 216 01-30-2014 02:42 PM

Durant has been the bettet scorer for a few yrs imo. Lebrons passing tho is incredible and really sets him spart offensively from everyone in the league


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