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CHCl3 05-10-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1051238)
I love how The Heat 'dig deep' when one of our starting 5 has no arm, due to the opposing team playing filthier than the Italians in the World Cup. The Celtics are not comprehensible to clowns who listten to sports radio.

I think the series is over now too, but this has a lot to do with Rajon missing a ****ing arm.

Seriously? It's not like the Celtics had any advantage with injuries against the Knicks or anything. :rolleyes:

The Knicks were missing Chauncey for 3 out of 4 games and Amare was playing injured for most of it as well. I'm not saying that the Knicks would have won the series had Amare and Chauncey been 100% fine but it sure as hell wouldn't have been a sweep (They got robbed in Game 1 but that's a whole different topic). It's just how the playoffs goes sometimes.

TheBig3 05-10-2011 09:09 AM

A lot of people are giving me the rolly-eye emoticon lately. I'll take this as a sign that I'm dominating the discussion.

Just like the Celtics.

Before the heat tried to snap Rondo's arm in half.

midnight rain 05-10-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CHCl3 (Post 1051214)
Not surprised about those two being included. Their clownish behavior, during the closing moments of Game 4, embarrassed the Lakers organization. Besides the Magic Front Office can at least say they got something in return for Dwight Howard.

Bynum's a classless and unappreciative punk, always has been always will be. The Laker's have put way too much faith in him.

Signed,
A Lakers Fan

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1051394)
A lot of people are giving me the rolly-eye emoticon lately. I'll take this as a sign that I'm dominating the discussion.

Just like the Celtics.

Before the heat tried to snap Rondo's arm in half.

We've been hoping you'd wake up and smell the coffee: you're not as smart as you think you are :pssst:

Garnett is probably my least favorite player in the league for the record.

Dirty 05-10-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1051396)
Bynum's a classless and unappreciative punk, always has been always will be. The Laker's have put way too much faith in him.

Signed,
A Lakers Fan

Bynum is extremely immature but I still think he could be a stud and they would be stupid to let him go for anything less than Dwight Howard. He's been in the league awhile but I think he's still 23. Like I said many times, on any other team he is an all-star, he just isn't given much opportunity with the Lakers since they have other veteran scorers. As far as protecting the rim and rebounding, he's one of the best. His size and wingspan is ridiculous and I'm still big on Bynum but I just don't see him getting many chances with Gasol, Kobe, and Odom around him. Even the times he was dominating this season or playoffs, they would stop feeding him because guys like Kobe need the rock.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1051394)
A lot of people are giving me the rolly-eye emoticon lately. I'll take this as a sign that I'm dominating the discussion.

Just like the Celtics.

Before the heat tried to snap Rondo's arm in half.

Dey see me trollin, dey hatin?

Well at least the Celts are dominating something since they definitely aren't dominating the Heat :rofl: The fat lady is clearing her throat for the Boston series. And Doc might not come back next year. I forgot that he hesitated before coming back this year and he could be done which would just be brutal for Boston since Thibodeau left last year and is now coaching the Bulls and turned them into the best defense in the league

CHCl3 05-10-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1051396)
Bynum's a classless and unappreciative punk, always has been always will be. The Laker's have put way too much faith in him.

Signed,
A Lakers Fan

How good is he at running & playing defense? We will take any center right now.

Could we also take one of your assistant coaches? Preferably one that can bring over some defense to replace the dogma of "score 120+ points per game and hopefully the opponent will only score 119 points".

Signed,
A Knicks Fan

TheBig3 05-10-2011 10:59 AM

Haters gon' hate. The series isn't over yet. We'll see. If they lose, well...i guess I'll have to settle for just the Bruins winning it all this season. bummer.

derek 05-11-2011 08:00 PM

Thank goodness the Fakers and Smelts are gone this year. A new champ will be crowned!!

crash_override 05-11-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1051430)
Haters gon' hate. The series isn't over yet. We'll see. If they lose, well...i guess I'll have to settle for just the Bruins winning it all this season. bummer.

So umm, 'go Bruins' it is then?

TheBig3 05-12-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1052237)
So umm, 'go Bruins' it is then?

Yeah, I mean. Its good fortune really. I can't walk around this city without running into some championship trophy. Its getting absurd.

Where did you say you were from again?

debaserr 05-12-2011 02:20 PM

I guess I'd be angry too if my NBA and NFL teams were considered favorites to win it all and drastically underachieved.

FRED HALE SR. 05-12-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1052465)
I guess I'd be angry too if my NBA and NFL teams were considered favorites to win it all and drastically underachieved.

You mean like the Colts?

TheBig3 05-12-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1052468)
You mean like the Colts?

ahahahahhahahahahahahaha. sick. burn.

I'm not angry about much. You should have replaced NFL with MLB though.

debaserr 05-12-2011 02:43 PM

the Colts were pretty down this year...

MLB? didn't the season just start? I don't really follow it.

TheBig3 05-12-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1052475)
the Colts were pretty down this year...

MLB? didn't the season just start? I don't really follow it.

Yes, and the Red Sox are sucking the joint out.

CHCl3 05-12-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1052677)
Yes, and the Red Sox are sucking the joint out.

When it comes to the Red Sox and the Yankees don't worry about it. They will always pull a winning streak out of their asses whenever they are in trouble and be fine.

Then again I pay attention to the MLS more than the MLB so don't take my word for it. It's just a trend I notice from years of watching ESPN.

TheBig3 05-13-2011 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CHCl3 (Post 1052696)
When it comes to the Red Sox and the Yankees don't worry about it. They will always pull a winning streak out of their asses whenever they are in trouble and be fine.

Then again I pay attention to the MLS more than the MLB so don't take my word for it. It's just a trend I notice from years of watching ESPN.

Not this time.

At this point, they may still have the the worst record in their region/conference/section/idon'tknowwhatthehellbaseballcallsit

CHCl3 05-13-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1052774)
Not this time.

At this point, they may still have the the worst record in their region/conference/section/idon'tknowwhatthehellbaseballcallsit

It's only the beginning of the year.

Nope. You are tied with Toronto for the worst record in the AL East.

Bloozcrooz 05-13-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1051357)
Oh lord...how am I going to sleep now? Boozin thinks I'm a not credible source. Good luck with the Mavericks.

?
? Refresh my memory here man? Just what are you talking about?

I do know the more I watch Derrick Rose the more this guy amazes me. Im not sure if they can beat the heat or not but ill be rooting for them. As much as I dont want the heat to win I just dont see them matching up. Even if they play lights out on deffense and keep Lebron and Wade on the perimeter and hope their jump shots dont fall. The heat can just as easily double up on Rose and still be able to keep Bosch defending the paint. At any rate should make for an interesting series.

debaserr 05-13-2011 11:44 AM

^

he was responding to my post. apparently he misread something.

Bloozcrooz 05-13-2011 04:14 PM

Oh well Happy 50th birthday "The Worm" Heard he celebrated in true Rodman fashion and was spotted at the Strip Club...lol. Carry on man
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...nis_rodman.jpg

CHCl3 05-13-2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1052982)
Oh well Happy 50th birthday "The Worm" Heard he celebrated in true Rodman fashion and was spotted at the Strip Club...lol. Carry on man
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...nis_rodman.jpg

I've always wanted to see inside that guy's mind. It must be one crazy place.

BTW, did anyone else find it funny that The Pistons retired his jersey on April Fool's day?

Bloozcrooz 05-15-2011 08:47 PM

Man I know its only one game and it was on their own home court but the Bulls Manhandled the heat. I hope its a sign of things to come in the rest of the series. Honestly I didnt think they would match up well with the heat. A couple of early lbj steals and I was starting to think yeah they are going to make this look easy. However once they got goin the overall scheme they had drawn up looks to pay dividends in the end if they keep it up. Maybe tweek a couple things like not falling for wades and james pump fakes and stay down. I noticed a few times they fell for that trick and the heat got the foul call but overall good solid d from them. A couple other guys stepped up on offense and Rose got his usual. Which could mean they could possibly make this a interesting series.

Dirty 05-15-2011 11:52 PM

Well i wouldn't say manhandled, it was tied half way through the third but the Bulls stepped up down the stretch and Miami didn't. I hate when the Heat go into isolation mode and LeBron gets the ball and holds it for literally 5 seconds. I wanna see him get the ball and do something quick, good things happen when he does. He stands there with it and gives the defense time to adjust, it always pisses me off when watching it. Heat will be hungry game 2, and the silver lining is Bosh dominated the Bulls big men. This loss was all on LBJ and Wade, they played horrible down the stretch.

debaserr 05-16-2011 12:05 AM

they both played pretty badly for the majority of the game. it may just be a case of the bulls D keying on them and letting everyone else get off. if that's the case(and I hope it is), this series could be over quick.

1 - both LeBron and Wade really need to improve their play off the ball, they should be getting way more slashing dunks(assisted from one of the big 3) in half court sets. who can keep a body on them around a screen?

2 - I'm kinda worried LeBron is happy with his game as it is. it seems like he has been basically the exact same player the last few years. his game is excellent and he is possibly the best player, but he could be so much better. if he took some time to perfect his footwork and improve his post game, he would be unstoppable.

I doubt the Heat can win a title without improving on at least one of these areas as currently constituted. however, they have a mid level exception for next season, so they will probably underpay some stud big to create a dynasty.

another note, they kinda hamstrung themselves financially last summer. I understand giving LBJ/Wade max deals, but they probably should have held off on Bosh and collected a bunch of people willing to sacrifice pay to play for a championship. in addition, they over-payed Miller and possibly Haslem(he is fairly old). it's like they wanted a championship this year at all costs. we'll see if the strategy bites them later.

Dirty 05-16-2011 12:20 AM

Yeah, I know Miller was hurt a lot of the year but he doesn't even play. Honestly their most valuable guy other than the Big 3 is Joel Anthony. That dude works his ass off to get boards, play defense, and keep balls alive. Well, James Jones is pretty good too. He's silky from 3.

I don't see LBJ working on his game anytime soon. Maybe he'll follow in the steps of MJ and Kobe and really finetune a fadeaway or post game after his athleticism declines with age. I think the Heat would be fine if they didn't start going isolation in the 4th quarter. LBJ just stands out there and gives everyone time to set up and wastes the whole shot clock. I feel like he's always trying to create this epic moment and it always backfires. Holy hell, you'r 6 foot 8 and over 250 pounds, get the ball and go to the rim. I think there's only a handful of point guards that are better passers then Bron too.

We'll see what the new CBA is like, but yeah the Heat are creating a dynasty. They'll do exactly what you said and underpay someone who is chasing a ring to come in and help them down low. What do you think about Spolstra? I'm starting to not like him much, why the hell weren't wade and lebron covering Rose all game?

TheBig3 05-16-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1054144)
Yeah, I know Miller was hurt a lot of the year but he doesn't even play. Honestly their most valuable guy other than the Big 3 is Joel Anthony. That dude works his ass off to get boards, play defense, and keep balls alive. Well, James Jones is pretty good too. He's silky from 3.

I don't see LBJ working on his game anytime soon. Maybe he'll follow in the steps of MJ and Kobe and really finetune a fadeaway or post game after his athleticism declines with age. I think the Heat would be fine if they didn't start going isolation in the 4th quarter. LBJ just stands out there and gives everyone time to set up and wastes the whole shot clock. I feel like he's always trying to create this epic moment and it always backfires. Holy hell, you'r 6 foot 8 and over 250 pounds, get the ball and go to the rim. I think there's only a handful of point guards that are better passers then Bron too.

We'll see what the new CBA is like, but yeah the Heat are creating a dynasty. They'll do exactly what you said and underpay someone who is chasing a ring to come in and help them down low. What do you think about Spolstra? I'm starting to not like him much, why the hell weren't wade and lebron covering Rose all game?

Its about time someone recognized my contributions. Step out the lane, son.

Bloozcrooz 05-16-2011 04:55 PM

Yeah the Heat seem to be at their best in transition rather than slowing things down and going isolation. I mean right at the beginning they were attacking more and it looked to be an affective approach. If I was a Heat fan id be upset with the scheme Spolstra is trying to take. Im not so sure about keeping the guys of size on the bench either. The Bulls were fairly efficient getting offensive boards throughout the game. Certainly disappointing for heat fans if coaching is the cause for a blown series.

As for the Bulls im sure they are hoping for another performance from Gibson like the one he had in game one. He definatley turned out to be their.....( overly used term) "x-factor" Along with the play of the Chicago bench which proved to some that the Bulls shouldnt be taken lightly imo. I always thought that if the big 3 for Miami couldnt get enough done to win the game. Then their bench help would surely do enough to lose it for them. At any rate im anxious to see game 2 and im certain miami will come out a lot more aggresive. Regaurdless of who wins the series its exciting to watch prob the 3 best players off the dribble in the world do their thing on the court. (Rose,Wade,James)

Dirty 05-16-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1054464)
Yeah the Heat seem to be at their best in transition rather than slowing things down and going isolation. I mean right at the beginning they were attacking more and it looked to be an affective approach. If I was a Heat fan id be upset with the scheme Spolstra is trying to take. Im not so sure about keeping the guys of size on the bench either. The Bulls were fairly efficient getting offensive boards throughout the game. Certainly disappointing for heat fans if coaching is the cause for a blown series.

As for the Bulls im sure they are hoping for another performance from Gibson like the one he had in game one. He definatley turned out to be their.....( overly used term) "x-factor" Along with the play of the Chicago bench which proved to some that the Bulls shouldnt be taken lightly imo. I always thought that if the big 3 for Miami couldnt get enough done to win the game. Then their bench help would surely do enough to lose it for them. At any rate im anxious to see game 2 and im certain miami will come out a lot more aggresive. Regaurdless of who wins the series its exciting to watch prob the 3 best players off the dribble in the world do their thing on the court. (Rose,Wade,James)

I think I heard on ESPN radio this morning that it was the most offensive rebounds the Heat have given up all year. I don't know if big ole Ilgauskas is hurt or not, but if he is healthy I don't know why he wasn't in the game. Bulls are one of the few teams that cna bring in 2 big men off the bench who will rebound and score (Gibson).

I've watched enough NBA to know how the script goes... Two pretty evenly matched great teams... Game 1 to team X, so game 2 goes to game Y. The more desperate team always comes out extra hard. Gibson had two crazy great dunks last night. Tonight blows, no games on tv. Only sports on is the Phillies and I hate them

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1054221)
Its about time someone recognized my contributions. Step out the lane, son.

:rofl::rofl:

Bloozcrooz 05-17-2011 09:57 PM

How bout Dirk tonight? ****in 24 out of 24 from the freethrow line(which is an NBA record) and 48 points? Man this must be Dirks year i guess to shine and try an carry his team to the finals. Mavs are hot and had like 9 days off to rest so they should be plenty rested for the series. Man what a performance though from Dirk. Guy takes 15 shots and ends up with 48 points.

Dirty 05-17-2011 10:20 PM

That was seriously the greatest playoff performance I've ever seen. Guys were playing great defense but he was just hitting unbelievable shot after unbelievable shot and drawing fouls. It was amazing to watch tonight. I'm pretty much speechless.

debaserr 05-17-2011 10:52 PM

youth never wins in the NBA playoffs.

thats why my finals pick is now:

Mavs>Heat

CHCl3 05-18-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1055084)
youth never wins in the NBA playoffs.

thats why my finals pick is now:

Mavs>Heat

Remember what happened in 2006. I have a sneaky feeling that the Heat are going to get some assistance against the Mavs just like last time.

Also does anyone else think that the Cavs got two picks in the top 5 to make Gilbert STFU. I remember him threatening to get a private investigator against Lebron and the Heat a while back for tampering.

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 02:54 PM

Let Cleveland have their time in the spotlight man. Maybe now they can channel all the energy and time they spend hating the Heat and Lebron to something positive. I think they've been screwed over and shoved to the back of the line long enough. The city as a whole doesnt have anything to root for sports wise. Maybe this will ease the pain of losing LBJ and give them a lil hitch in their giddyup again. Im happy to see them prosper a lil bit and finally be able to turn the page.

To touch on Dirks performance from last night..some are calling it the best playoff game in NBA history. Woody Page from around the horn to be specific but I strongly disagree. Was it outstanding? Yes..but its almost like its the best meaningless performance in a playoff game to me. If it were game 7 and their was a lil more urgency to win cause its due or die time then maybe. Still ive seen Jordan hit bigger clutch shots and Reggie Miller as well just to name a couple. Albeit 24/24 from the freethrow line is just phenominal and unheard of...hell doing that in practice is unheard of much less in the playoffs. Granted the magnitude of the game isnt a game 7 or must win yet but still. Good job Dirk but is it worthy of being called the best playoff game in history? No...no. Greatest individual effort in a playoff game...possibly.

Tonights game two of the heat and The Bulls and im looking forward to it. In a way im leary because i know the heat have made adjustments and they will definatley come out swinging. Wade and james should be way more aggressive and be out for blood this game. I was impressed with the Bulls d on them in game one but I seriosly doubt thay will have that luxury again. As far as them being passive and not attacking and just settling for trying to get something out of isolation.

Dirty 05-18-2011 03:29 PM

I think Heat win tonight. I have a feeling Wade and LeBron will live at the foul line tonight. They will be extra agressive and the refs will cater to them. Nobody here should fool themselves into thinking the refs aren't a huge part in determining who wins games. The NBA wants every series to go 7 game if possible. Unless the Heat absolutely come out and flop dead, I don't think they can lose this game.

CHCl3 05-18-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1055444)
Let Cleveland have their time in the spotlight man. Maybe now they can channel all the energy and time they spend hating the Heat and Lebron to something positive.

They had the spotlight when Lebron James was there carrying them deep in the playoffs.

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I think they've been screwed over and shoved to the back of the line long enough.
They had the best record in the fucking league the 2 previous years. They couldn't get it done with the best player in basketball so he left. They have no one else to blame but themselves.

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The city as a whole doesnt have anything to root for sports wise.
Bullsht.

The Cleveland Indians have the best record in baseball right now.

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Maybe this will ease the pain of losing LBJ and give them a lil hitch in their giddyup again. Im happy to see them prosper a lil bit and finally be able to turn the page.
Or they could stop being bitches.

Buffalo has had a worse sports history than Cleveland yet you don't see people over their whining nearly as much as Cleveland fans.

Dirty 05-18-2011 05:08 PM

I'm happy Cleveland got the top pick (and the number 4 pick). Nothing will ever be a conslation for losing LeBron James. That will seriously haunt that city forever. Human freaks of nature who are 6 foot 8 and 250 pounds who are from Akron don't come along...ever. It's the Cavs management's fault though. They never put a great team around LeBron and they had plenty of time to do it.

Cleveland is a terrible sports city, but their running back is on the cover of Madden this year (yeah that's not anything amazing like a superbowl but it's something), and yes the Indians are 1st place right now even though i highly doubt they win the division. I view Cleveland as just a really shitty and depressive town. So I am glad things look better for them.

I'm sure they'll take Kyrie Irving with the 1st overall pick. If not, consider them retards. It's the worst draft in a decade, but there's still talent at the top. I don't know what they'll do with the #4 pick, maybe trade it for a big man. With Irving, JJ Hickson and whoever they draft at 4 or trade the pick for, they have 3 young legit guys to build around. The east sucks ass so I don't think they are like lightyears away from the playoffs or anything.

debaserr 05-18-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1055513)
It's the Cavs management's fault though. They never put a great team around LeBron and they had plenty of time to do it.

I'm sure they'll take Kyrie Irving with the 1st overall pick. If not, consider them retards. It's the worst draft in a decade, but there's still talent at the top. I don't know what they'll do with the #4 pick, maybe trade it for a big man. With Irving, JJ Hickson and whoever they draft at 4 or trade the pick for, they have 3 young legit guys to build around. The east sucks ass so I don't think they are like lightyears away from the playoffs or anything.

Yep.

They should take Irving and trade the #4 for something useful(future picks or players). This draft is crap after the top two or three, I have no idea about Kanter.

I think the Heat win tonight, it's a must win for them.

Dirty 05-18-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1055522)
Yep.

They should take Irving and trade the #4 for something useful(future picks or players). This draft is crap after the top two or three, I have no idea about Kanter.

I think the Heat win tonight, it's a must win for them.

I think foreign guys are always the biggest risk/reward type of players. Most flop in the NBA, and everyone hopes they land the next Dirk or Ginobili. In reality, most teams get Darko Milicic. If I were a GM, I'd just stay away from a guy like Kanter. He's young, big, skilled, but American hoops is a lot different than foreign hoops and the Cavs can't be risking so much on someone with such a good chance of being a bust. I don't really know what the value of the #4 pick would be though. Maybe they can find a team who overpays. They might as well cut Baron Davis, I'm not sure why any team would really want him on their roster to be honest.

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CHCl3 (Post 1055498)
They had the spotlight when Lebron James was there carrying them deep in the playoffs.



They had the best record in the fucking league the 2 previous years. They couldn't get it done with the best player in basketball so he left. They have no one else to blame but themselves.



Bullsht.

The Cleveland Indians have the best record in baseball right now.



Or they could stop being bitches.

Buffalo has had a worse sports history than Cleveland yet you don't see people over their whining nearly as much as Cleveland fans.

The short time LBj was there was just enough tease for them to suffer twice as bad when he left. Cause then they realize just how hopless Cleveland is without him. Getting lead to the playoffs only to see them lose doesnt exzactly stand out in your mind as one of your citys better moments either. Not to mention Micheal Jordan couldnt have won a ring with the cast of players they surounded LBJ with. I wont get into the whole him leaving and reasons crap again. As far as the Indians im not up to par with baseball so i cant really say. However if they were keeping the citys head above water hopes wise I dont think LBJ leaving would have stung quite so bad man.

Then theres the Browns and I dont even have to say anything there I dont think. Jim Brown and that was how many years ago since he played? But thats just my opinion..cut the underdog city some slack. Its not a major market city with endless amounts of money and choices to choose from.

CHCl3 05-18-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1055539)
The short time LBj was there was just enough tease for them to suffer twice as bad when he left. Cause then they realize just how hopless Cleveland is without him. Getting lead to the playoffs only to see them lose doesnt exzactly stand out in your mind as one of your citys better moments either.

Depends. When the Knicks were a great team in the mid-late 90's I rather enjoyed those times even though they never won squat. Hell I look at those times with fond memories.

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Not to mention Micheal Jordan couldnt have won a ring with the cast of players they surounded LBJ with.
That's not anyone else's fault but the Cleveland Cavaliers. They couldn't get the job done and paid the price.

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As far as the Indians im not up to par with baseball so i cant really say. However if they were keeping the citys head above water hopes wise I dont think LBJ leaving would have stung quite so bad man.
WTF?

How in the hell is a team playing right now supposed to retroactively make people feel better a year ago?

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Then theres the Browns and I dont even have to say anything there I dont think. Jim Brown and that was how many years ago since he played? But thats just my opinion..cut the underdog city some slack. Its not a major market city with endless amounts of money and choices to choose from.
The Browns sucking is only the fault of the Browns.

Also no I will not be cutting them some slack (except for baseball due to whole no salary cap thing). They need to stop sucking. The end.


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