Agree 100%

Oh, and dac, while Lebron may love Cleveland, do you really think he'll stay? When you're 25 (As he'll be) and a superstar is that really where you want to be?

If I was him, yes. Nothing as important to me as loyalty, even at that age.

His hometown? Yeah. He's LeBron. He's bigger than NY or Chicago. He can make more money in Cleveland. As of right now, Cleveland gives him a better chance to win than any of his other potential suitors. His reputation and loyalty will be questioned if he leaves, tainting a pretty much perfect reputation. There is really no reason to leave.

I just hate dirty players is all. I depise Bruce Bowen and Kobe (and several others) as well. If you're out there trying to hurt someone then you're not playing the game right in my opinion. Hopefully he'll get what's coming to him though.


For a more interesting discussion, what are everyone's top 5 favorite NBA players that DON'T play for your favorite team?

Mine:
- Dirk
-Tony Parker
- Mike Miller
- Hedo
- Aaron Brooks

Agreed. What I love most about physical games are, like you said, the hating each other (a respectful hate) and the pace the game works at. When the refs are tooting their horns every 30 seconds no player is going to be playing their best. Physical = intense and exciting.
Kobe isn't a dirty player, he's an intense player with a killer instinct. I find it odd that you actually LIKE games that are safe and boring, where everyone plays nice and pats each other's asses. That's not a fun game to watch at all.

I also find it interesting that you go out of your way to point out Kobe's "dirty plays", but when Dahntay commits TWO dirty plays in back-to-back games, I don't hear a peep from your biased mind.

By the way, glad to see you love the whities of the NBA! :laughing:

Mine:

- Chris Paul
- Joe Johnson
- Chris Bosh
- Hedo Turkoglu
- Mehmet Okur

Don't hold me to that list!

For all the Nuggets lovers and Laker haters out there: http://rumorsandrants.com/2009/05/th...r-nuggets.html

Dwayne Wade
Brook Lopez
Brandon Roy
Paul Millsap
Trevor Ariza

Two lol? Seriously though, the whities are hilarious because they always look so awkward and unathletic.


I think Kobe is definitely a dirty player. Is he intense and does he have a killer instinct? Yes, more so than probably any other player. But he's not shy about throwing elbows either.


And here's my favorite dirty play of all time:

Dac

Do you think Michael Jordan and Larry Bird were dirty players?

I haven't watched enough of them to make an assessment.

Also: FML

I would give a kidney right now for a Cavs championship, no questions asked.

Stumbled across this, thought some of you all might get a kick out of it:
http://i40.tinypic.com/15nugb6.png

Hedo Turkoglu's metalcore outfit? Im a fan.

I didn't know Chuck Norris Played basketball.

So JJJ, looks like I was right, eh? *rubs face in dirt* :)

Ben Wallace says he's probably going to retire
Joe Smith is a free agent
Varejao is going to ask for 10 million
And Z will be another year older

This offseason is going to be really important to see if the Cavs will remain contenders. If they let Varejao walk, it's over. Don't even bother watching the Cavs next year.

Well, Lebron could always average 50, 10 and 10...

... And solidify his place as the greatest player to never win a championship.

So, thoughts on the finals? I'm thinking Lakers in 6.

There is a first time for everything

If only you were so quick to point out all the times you're wrong.

Ok...I wasn't serious but ok...

I just don't use smileys

My apologies. I'm used to too many smilies, your style is refreshing.

Ready to be a big man and own up to my predictions? :)

Magic in 7. Going to be a great series.

Backup pick is Lakers in 5.

Heh. So the first is like your fantasy?

No. I just have absolutely no idea how the Lakers will play against Dwight. I think the Lakers will make it close no matter what, but if Bynum doesn't have a big series, I see the Magic winning it.

I don't think Bynum needs a big series, he just needs to stay on the court. Kendrick bloody Perkins held him in check, so if Bynum doesn't get cheap fouls he should be able to do the same.

That's a very big "if" going off of the what we've seen so far and how we've seen the refs handle Dwight.

It takes a HUGE, GIGANTIC Man to admit when he's wrong, and I am that man. But Obviously the Magic can't win the title right?

Kendrick Perkins is a much better defensive center then Bynum.

Howard doesn't scare me in the post as much as he does on the boards.

I realize that and I agree about Howards limited offensive game. If the Lakers can hold him to 12-13 boards a game and make sure those are mostly defensive they'll be fine.

Yep, offensive rebounds will hurt them, that'll lead to Howard dunks and Bynum\Gasol foul trouble.

The question for me is can LA play Bynum, Gasol, Odom together. Who guards Turkaglu and Lewis if they do that?

Any thoughts?

I say put Gasol at center and Odom at the 4. Double off Alston when Howard gets it in the post. Odom can guard Lewis, Ariza can at least slow down Turk and the Magic backcourt shouldn't be a problem. On offense Gasol will eat up Howard and Odom should have his way with Lewis. But that's the backup plan. If Bynum plays at least decently then you match his minutes with Howards as much as possible, and put Gasol at the 4 and Odom at the 3. Yes, I know what you're thinking, the THE MATCHUPS!!! But that works both ways. Lewis on Gasol (Or Bynum)? Turk on Odom? But I'd actually prefer to put Odom on the second unit. Start Bynum/Gasol/Ariza/Bryant/Farmar.

Hah, it's fine bro, I'm just messing with you.
To be honest, I don't think Turkoglu has been much of a threat as of late. He's wildly inconsistent, even though it pains me to say it as I have much respect for him. If Lakers play like they did game's 5 & 6 they'll probably have no trouble cleaning up the Magic. Game 1 will be a big indicator of which Laker team shows up

Lakers in 7

I also think the Cavs losing the Eastern Conference Finals puts to rest any rumors that the NBA is corrupt (no doubt a Cavs-Lakers Finals would bring the ka-ching far more than Magic-Lakers Finals)

I dont want Bynum to start. LO should start the game on Hedo and Ariza should be the one chasing Rashard off all those screens.

In all honesty I think Lee Evans is going to have to be the Pietrus of this series. He has to keep Kobe honest and matter of fact I think Pietrus should be the starter for this series.

If Pau outscores Dwight, which is very possibe, then I think the Magic will struggle.

That's a lot to expect from a Bills wide reciever...

Pau better outscore Dwight. He's good because of his offense, not his defense and rebounding.

Magic vs. Lakers

game 1 tonight...

Predictions?

I think Magic surprise the Lakers in game 1 by a narrow margain, maybe 3 points.

Kobe dominates game 1. Dwight is a no show.

You could be right. I have to say as much as I don't care about either team, I am getting excited to see what wil happen.