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Old 05-21-2009, 02:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't know if you've ever been told this, but basketball is a 5 man sport.

So far you have yet to mention a single other name on the Cavs team besides LeBron

I'm not bothering to debunk another post of yours. Even if the Magic do win, I can still see you being too stubborn to admit their the better team. I'll be more than ready to admit it if the Cavs close them out, but as of now I think it will be the Magic. Nothing we say will change the outcome, so I say we shut up and watch for something new to happen in the series
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know if you've ever been told this, but basketball is a 5 man sport.

So far you have yet to mention a single other name on the Cavs team besides LeBron

I'm not bothering to debunk another post of yours. Even if the Magic do win, I can still see you being too stubborn to admit their the better team. I'll be more than ready to admit it if the Cavs close them out, but as of now I think it will be the Magic. Nothing we say will change the outcome, so I say we shut up and watch for something new to happen in the series
Basketball is a five man sport, but only the star or stars are relevant to who wins a title. Two teams in NBA history have won a title without an elite superstar as their clutch scorer; the 1978 Sonics and the 2004 Pistons, the Magic's superstar is not their go-to-guy. They have no chance.

If I am wrong, I'll admit it, I just know (based on 35 years of watching the sport) I won't be.

All I am saying to you is that your reasoning for why the MAgic will win has no precedent outside of the '04 finals of happening.
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Old 06-01-2009, 08:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Basketball is a five man sport, but only the star or stars are relevant to who wins a title. Two teams in NBA history have won a title without an elite superstar as their clutch scorer; the 1978 Sonics and the 2004 Pistons, the Magic's superstar is not their go-to-guy. They have no chance.

If I am wrong, I'll admit it, I just know (based on 35 years of watching the sport) I won't be.

All I am saying to you is that your reasoning for why the MAgic will win has no precedent outside of the '04 finals of happening.
Ready to be a big man and own up to my predictions?
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Ready to be a big man and own up to my predictions?
It takes a HUGE, GIGANTIC Man to admit when he's wrong, and I am that man. But Obviously the Magic can't win the title right?
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A few major issues

Lebron is not streaky from mid-range he was in the top 5 in contested FG% inside the arc and outside the paint, so that's just wrong.

If the Cavs aren't as good, how come they've played better all season? The Cav's had a better winning percentage against the West too, so don't give me any weak conference stuff. Plus a better average margin of victory and way better 4th quarter numbers.

The Lakers have more talent and a better coach, but they do not have Lebron and he is on another level now.

The 1990's Bulls never had the best team, but they had MJ and thus they never lost once he reached that level.

The Salary cap prevents you from having great "teams" like the Lakers, Pistons and Celtics of the 1980's, you need the best player more often then not.

Off course something strange could happen, heck I thought the Lakers were shoe-ins last season against the Celtics, but Kobe no showed and his team mates couldn't pick up the slack, The Cavs of '09 are way better then the Celts of '08, so what makes you think the Lakers can beat them?

Here's some evidence to support my theory

Years Best Player in NBA Titles for his team
2003-2007 Tim Duncan 3 of 5 ('06 likely fixed by officials)
2000-2002 Shaquille O'Neal 3 of 3
1999 Season Lockout Spurs win title w\Duncan& Admiral
1996-1998 Michael Jordan 3 of 3
1994-1995 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 of 2
1991-1993 Michael Jordan 3 of 3
1989-1990 Transitional Period Bad Boy Pistons win back-to-back
1980-1988 Magic and Bird 8 of 9 (Dr.J and 76ers win in '83)


Odds are in my favor is all I am saying
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A few major issues

Lebron is not streaky from mid-range he was in the top 5 in contested FG% inside the arc and outside the paint, so that's just wrong.

If the Cavs aren't as good, how come they've played better all season? The Cav's had a better winning percentage against the West too, so don't give me any weak conference stuff. Plus a better average margin of victory and way better 4th quarter numbers.

The Lakers have more talent and a better coach, but they do not have Lebron and he is on another level now.

The 1990's Bulls never had the best team, but they had MJ and thus they never lost once he reached that level.

The Salary cap prevents you from having great "teams" like the Lakers, Pistons and Celtics of the 1980's, you need the best player more often then not.

Off course something strange could happen, heck I thought the Lakers were shoe-ins last season against the Celtics, but Kobe no showed and his team mates couldn't pick up the slack, The Cavs of '09 are way better then the Celts of '08, so what makes you think the Lakers can beat them?

Here's some evidence to support my theory

Years Best Player in NBA Titles for his team
2003-2007 Tim Duncan 3 of 5 ('06 likely fixed by officials)
2000-2002 Shaquille O'Neal 3 of 3
1999 Season Lockout Spurs win title w\Duncan& Admiral
1996-1998 Michael Jordan 3 of 3
1994-1995 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 of 2
1991-1993 Michael Jordan 3 of 3
1989-1990 Transitional Period Bad Boy Pistons win back-to-back
1980-1988 Magic and Bird 8 of 9 (Dr.J and 76ers win in '83)


Odds are in my favor is all I am saying
You're right actually, the team with the best player usually wins. Difference is, the team with the best player typically has another superstar. Difference is, the team with the better player didn't get destroyed by their most likely opponent in the finals during the regular season. You have history on your side, but history doesn't account for any reasoned, objective comparing of the Lakers and Cavs gives the Lakers the edge in both matchups and talent.
Edit: Ok, I guess you're right about LBJs jumpshooting, I was just going on what I've seen personally.
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God, that last jump ball was disgraceful, three blown calls in 0.1 seconds.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Wow.

Just... Wow.
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Greatest ****ing shot EVER!

I went totally crazy!
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It's amazing that with 1 second left he took a formed shot and didn't just throw up a prayer. I'm so ****ing happy. We have toasted literally 10 shots to LeBron James already tonight.
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