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Old 06-10-2011, 12:04 AM   #1041 (permalink)
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Yeah, I could see that. I loved Hasek as well, I remember I got a Blackhawks Jersey when he played for them for that short time, made up with his name and number, and like the day after they traded him.. Seems like people forgot that he started out with Chicago, I had some go.... "Hasek never played for the Blackhawks". Best thing he got traded, to think he would of just been a back up goalie for Belfour had he not been traded...

Makes me wonder how many amazing goalies spend their season behind the bench. that we just dont know about yet.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:10 AM   #1042 (permalink)
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Yeah Hasek is the best ever in my opinion. Alot of people say Brodeur or Roy, but no one can touch what Hasek did in his heyday.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:57 AM   #1043 (permalink)
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Yeah Hasek is the best ever in my opinion. Alot of people say Brodeur or Roy, but no one can touch what Hasek did in his heyday.
Hasek was good. Roy and Brodeur are better however. Hasek could make some amazing gymnastic saves and could carry his team for periods. But Roy and Brodeur are so gifted in the butterfly and flatout stop everything when it counts. Brodeur vs Roy is a tough call for me, i'd probably go with Martin though hes just so cool under pressure.
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:57 AM   #1044 (permalink)
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As long as you stop the puck, it's all that matters. Whatever goalie stops the most pucks (given level of difficulty, which is safe to assume Hasek had the toughest time with the teams he was playing on) is the best. When you start getting into stats, the comparison becomes almost laughable.

Save % in seasons playing 41+ games

Hasek: .930, .930, .920, .930, .932, .937, .921, .915, .925, .913
Brodeur: .915, .902, .911, .927, .917, .906, .910, .906, .906, .914, .917, .911, .922, .920, .916, .903
Roy: .900, .908, .912, .906, .914, .894, .918, .906, .923, .916, .917, .914, .913, .925, .920

While Brodeur and Roy are generally thought of as the big-game goalies, every single one raised their game in the Playoffs, and once again, look who has the highest save percentage in the playoffs. Hasek just never was on a very good team besides the Wings in '02. And I don't think we'll ever see a goalie carry a team like Hasek did in '99 again.
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:27 PM   #1045 (permalink)
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As long as you stop the puck, it's all that matters. Whatever goalie stops the most pucks (given level of difficulty, which is safe to assume Hasek had the toughest time with the teams he was playing on) is the best. When you start getting into stats, the comparison becomes almost laughable.

Save % in seasons playing 41+ games

Hasek: .930, .930, .920, .930, .932, .937, .921, .915, .925, .913
Brodeur: .915, .902, .911, .927, .917, .906, .910, .906, .906, .914, .917, .911, .922, .920, .916, .903
Roy: .900, .908, .912, .906, .914, .894, .918, .906, .923, .916, .917, .914, .913, .925, .920

While Brodeur and Roy are generally thought of as the big-game goalies, every single one raised their game in the Playoffs, and once again, look who has the highest save percentage in the playoffs. Hasek just never was on a very good team besides the Wings in '02. And I don't think we'll ever see a goalie carry a team like Hasek did in '99 again.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:17 PM   #1046 (permalink)
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As long as you stop the puck, it's all that matters. Whatever goalie stops the most pucks (given level of difficulty, which is safe to assume Hasek had the toughest time with the teams he was playing on) is the best. When you start getting into stats, the comparison becomes almost laughable.

Save % in seasons playing 41+ games

Hasek: .930, .930, .920, .930, .932, .937, .921, .915, .925, .913
Brodeur: .915, .902, .911, .927, .917, .906, .910, .906, .906, .914, .917, .911, .922, .920, .916, .903
Roy: .900, .908, .912, .906, .914, .894, .918, .906, .923, .916, .917, .914, .913, .925, .920

While Brodeur and Roy are generally thought of as the big-game goalies, every single one raised their game in the Playoffs, and once again, look who has the highest save percentage in the playoffs. Hasek just never was on a very good team besides the Wings in '02. And I don't think we'll ever see a goalie carry a team like Hasek did in '99 again.
Save percentage doesn't do much for me. I prefer wins and shutouts.

Most wins lifetime: Martin [602]
Most playoff wins: Roy [151]
Most wins season: Martin [48]
Most shutouts career: Martin [110]
Most 30 win seasons: PR AND MB [13]
Most 40 win seasons: MB [3]
Most shutouts playoffs: MB AND PR [23]
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:39 PM   #1047 (permalink)
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I just can't understand why people judge wins. The goalies aren't responsible for their defense's play, let alone their offense's play. Look at some of the names Marty and Roy played behind.
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I just can't understand why people judge wins. The goalies aren't responsible for their defense's play, let alone their offense's play. Look at some of the names Marty and Roy played behind.
Its not their fault their GM'S stepped up on Stanley Cup winning product. Winning is the ultimate goal no matter how great your save percentage is. Lindy Ruff actually put together some good teams in Buffalo.
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Its not their fault their GM'S stepped up on Stanley Cup winning product. Winning is the ultimate goal no matter how great your save percentage is. Lindy Ruff actually put together some good teams in Buffalo.
Lindy's better teams have come after the lockout which is weird since we went to the Cup in 99', but haven't been back since. We did win the President's Trophy back in 07', though that was year 2 of consecutive Conference Final exits. I like his Lindy's demeanor and if **** doesn't go his way, he'll let people know. I'm excited for the Pegula era to have its first full season.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:46 PM   #1050 (permalink)
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What a nerve wracking game tonight. We managed to get one by Thomas and our PK and tender did an unreal job of keeping Boston off the scoreboard. We're gonna have one hell of a task ahead of us to finish this series off in Boston. And I surely hope we do, because I dont think my heart could handle a game 7.
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