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Son of JayJamJah · 12-10-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Its hard when you have 3 Qbs who easily could be a starter on half the NFL teams. Big 12's offense is far superior to any other conference. Doesnt hurt 4 out of the 5 heisman people are Big 12.

This post is riddled with evidence of how little we agree on about college football.

I'll bet you anything of Harrell, Bradford and McCoy there are less then 4 combined pro bowls. I'd guess only one (McCoy) becomes a starter. The offenses are great, but they defenses suck just as much.

I like the Buckeyes to upset Texas (might regret this one) and like Florida by three touchdowns.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 01:11 AM

What sucks, is I think you're right but its only because a good QB will go to a terrible team.

And I know on this topic it sounds like I'm huge for the Big 12, when in reality I'm not really. I just think the Big 12 in the last couple of years has been really good. If i had it my way I'd be reppin Miami and Michigan.. but neither have been that great this year so I have no arguement with them.

ProggyMan · 12-10-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Thats awesome.. the Pac 10 is BAD so I really would hope USC's OOC was the toughest. Its 1 game out of their 12-13 game schedule. In the big 12 the top 3 teams have played 3 harder games in conference then USC this year has played OOC.

And haven't you preached the whole time "It doesnt matter what happened last year?"

It doesn't, but you're ragging on USC for previous year's accomplishments. Which is ridiculous since they're 6-1 in BCS bowls, but whatever. USC's beaten two top 20 teams in dominating fashion. Yet again, you ignore most of what I said.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 12:08 PM

We all saw what happened when Oklahoma had 2 weeks to prepare for tech tx. If Texas had the same amount of time for tech texas it would have been the same result (Texas winning by 30+). As it was Texas had 3 hard weeks in a row and THEN had a short week vs Texas tech and lost on the last play of the game. Also could have won it prior if Gidian would have caught the INT.

How you can argue USC having a good schedule is beyond me. In the Pac 10 there is only 1 team with 10 wins. In the big 12 you have 3, SEC you have 2. Doesn't hurt Pac 10 is the ONLY conference with a winless team. I don't know where your sick bias for the pac 10/USC deleloped but I'd love to know where this blindless faith came from.

ProggyMan · 12-10-2008, 07:50 PM

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We all saw what happened when Oklahoma had 2 weeks to prepare for tech tx. If Texas had the same amount of time for tech texas it would have been the same result (Texas winning by 30+). As it was Texas had 3 hard weeks in a row and THEN had a short week vs Texas tech and lost on the last play of the game. Also could have won it prior if Gidian would have caught the INT.

Er ok, don't know who this is directed at.

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How you can argue USC having a good schedule is beyond me. In the Pac 10 there is only 1 team with 10 wins. In the big 12 you have 3, SEC you have 2. Doesn't hurt Pac 10 is the ONLY conference with a winless team. I don't know where your sick bias for the pac 10/USC deleloped but I'd love to know where this blindless faith came from.

Texas Tech is overrated, if they'd played anyone out of conference they'd be exposed. Harrell is a product of the system and the biggest offensive line in College Football. They shouldn't be in the top 10. But anyways, the Pac-10 isn't as good as either the SEC or Big 12 this year, but USC still has played a decent schedule and beaten several solid teams in conference. Just because the Pac-10 is down doesn't mean USC is, they have the best defense in the country by far and a solid, balanced offense. The Big 12 hasn't done anything to prove themselves out of conference, neither has the SEC (Which has the same amount of good teams as the Pac-10). USC dominated the only 10 win team they played, which you discount because you say they haven't shown up in their two big games this year. Which is bull**** because one of those games was lost on a freshman mistake by 7 points, the other being the game against USC. I'm not going to argue that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC/Big 12, but the gap is closer than you'd like to believe and USC is just as good as any team in the country. Oregon is just as good as Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, Cal is almost as good, Oregon State is about the same.

dac · 12-11-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Er ok, don't know who this is directed at.

Texas Tech is overrated, if they'd played anyone out of conference they'd be exposed. Harrell is a product of the system and the biggest offensive line in College Football. They shouldn't be in the top 10. But anyways, the Pac-10 isn't as good as either the SEC or Big 12 this year, but USC still has played a decent schedule and beaten several solid teams in conference. Just because the Pac-10 is down doesn't mean USC is, they have the best defense in the country by far and a solid, balanced offense. The Big 12 hasn't done anything to prove themselves out of conference, neither has the SEC (Which has the same amount of good teams as the Pac-10). USC dominated the only 10 win team they played, which you discount because you say they haven't shown up in their two big games this year. Which is bull**** because one of those games was lost on a freshman mistake by 7 points, the other being the game against USC. I'm not going to argue that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC/Big 12, but the gap is closer than you'd like to believe and USC is just as good as any team in the country. Oregon is just as good as Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, Cal is almost as good, Oregon State is about the same.

I think the Mountain West's performance against the Pac 10 this year showed that it is indeed weak Proggy, and the only two teams worth mentioning from it are USC and OSU.

thegoldlaw · 12-11-2008, 06:06 AM

And I forgot to mention on Texas' ONLY lost was to Texas Tech without their #1 WR Cosby AND the defense player of the year Orakpo.

And for texas tech it doesnt matter if the QB is a product of the system. The Team is good reguardless. The only significance would be if we were talking heisman which I don't recall being part of this convo. And if we were It should be either Mccoy or Crabtree.

ProggyMan · 12-11-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

I think the Mountain West's performance against the Pac 10 this year showed that it is indeed weak Proggy, and the only two teams worth mentioning from it are USC and OSU.

Oregon and Cal...The SEC has Georgia, Ole Miss, Bama, and UF. Same amount of good teams. I agree the conference is down this year, but not a down as people make it out to be.

ProggyMan · 12-11-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

And I forgot to mention on Texas' ONLY lost was to Texas Tech without their #1 WR Cosby AND the defense player of the year Orakpo.

And for texas tech it doesnt matter if the QB is a product of the system. The Team is good reguardless. The only significance would be if we were talking heisman which I don't recall being part of this convo. And if we were It should be either Mccoy or Crabtree.

No response to 9/10ths of my post?

thegoldlaw · 12-11-2008, 08:01 PM

Last I knew I have responded to every one of your post

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12-10-2008, 01:11 AM	#42 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	What sucks, is I think you're right but its only because a good QB will go to a terrible team. And I know on this topic it sounds like I'm huge for the Big 12, when in reality I'm not really. I just think the Big 12 in the last couple of years has been really good. If i had it my way I'd be reppin Miami and Michigan.. but neither have been that great this year so I have no arguement with them.

12-10-2008, 12:08 PM	#44 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	We all saw what happened when Oklahoma had 2 weeks to prepare for tech tx. If Texas had the same amount of time for tech texas it would have been the same result (Texas winning by 30+). As it was Texas had 3 hard weeks in a row and THEN had a short week vs Texas tech and lost on the last play of the game. Also could have won it prior if Gidian would have caught the INT. How you can argue USC having a good schedule is beyond me. In the Pac 10 there is only 1 team with 10 wins. In the big 12 you have 3, SEC you have 2. Doesn't hurt Pac 10 is the ONLY conference with a winless team. I don't know where your sick bias for the pac 10/USC deleloped but I'd love to know where this blindless faith came from.

12-11-2008, 06:06 AM	#47 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	And I forgot to mention on Texas' ONLY lost was to Texas Tech without their #1 WR Cosby AND the defense player of the year Orakpo. And for texas tech it doesnt matter if the QB is a product of the system. The Team is good reguardless. The only significance would be if we were talking heisman which I don't recall being part of this convo. And if we were It should be either Mccoy or Crabtree.

12-11-2008, 08:01 PM	#50 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Last I knew I have responded to every one of your post