ProggyMan

and PSU gets to travel to their fancy hotel every night...That's a pretty stupid point.

Funny, I seem to recall someone named Jason White on that team...I could have sworn he won the Heisman or something, just for throwing the football.

What's your point? They've lost to 2 bad teams since 2003, how horrible.

Leinart would have scored anyway, look it up on youtube. The call did decide the game, that was 4th down, USC got the ball back with time for 3 plays on on the 30 something, if the correct call had been made USC could have kneeled and run the clock out.

Which are? I count two. USC losses since 2003:
To Cal in triple ovetime, Cal went on to win the rest of their games that year.
To Texas, on a blown call in the NC game.
To Oregon State, who finished the season 10-4 and beat Missouri in the Sun Bowl.
To UCLa, one of the bad losses.
To Stanford, second of bad losses.
To Ducks, would have been in the NC if Dennis Dixon hadn't been injured in the Cal game.
To Oregon State, beat a ranked team in the Sun Bowl without their two best players...

thegoldlaw

You're serious right? Have you ever been to a hotel before? No matter how fancy they are, they begin to suck after 3 days. I know i've been in a $400 per day one, and hated it by day 2.

Winning the heisman is a curse, both in NC games and the NFC. More are bad in both game/league then are good.

Now to the GAME, THE TIME RAN OUT!, thats the first BLOWN call.. then when reggie pushes him. The play ends +15 yard pent and its GG ND win!

ProggyMan

So? The players may not enjoy but don't act like they're fatigued from travel or that it actually has any effect on the game.

He still put up huge numbers...Matt Leinart won the Heisman that year and USC still won the NC. You're grasping at straws and you've derailed this argument so far from it's original premise I don't know why I'm still talking to you.

Fair enough. But USC was still the best team in the country.

thegoldlaw

ND win thats game, USC doesnt get its 2nd NC.. Last I knew Texas has a pretty impressive run of their own. If texas got the breaks USC did, they'd be playing in 3-4 NC games by now. They got shafted this year too.

dac

So how about this Alabama-Utah game...? I love this stuff.

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ProggyMan

**** it, you ignore half my post every time and have basically conceded my original point. I'm done.
@dac: yeh, Nick Saban must be furious.

thegoldlaw

I havent even figured out what you're trying to say here. When you spend a month away from your family, friends, your house it begins to wear on you.


I think this decade only 2 heismans have won the NC game. So as mentioned before being the heisman doesnt mean much. Also doesnt help they always get it wrong. Vince Young should have won it the year they beat USC and Mcfadden should have won it in 07. and White was soo overly hyped, dude put up huge numbers on junk teams and did horrible vs half decent teams.

And this part I already answered and said Texas in my mind has done better and would have shown given the AP didnt hate texas so much. They ranked Texas 5th!! at the end of the year.. are you kidding me ?!

So as you can see everything in this post I've said before and just reworded it. The reason I dont reply to half the stuff you say it because its always redundant.

thegoldlaw

Every dog has their year. Look @ boise st, They looked insanely good vs Oklahoma and a bit lucky and this year looked sub-par. I hate Saban and I give him props for the good season he had so far. They were really bad last year and turned out pretty good this year. I think within 2 years he'll win a NC with alabama, so long as he stays there for 2 years haha.

ProggyMan

Lol, yeh, I bet the Penn State guys were really bummed out at being away from their frat house for so long. I hope you're joking about their families, because they're in college.

Jason White still put up huge numbers and Oklahoma was a far cry from a pure running team.

Oklahoma beat more and more highly ranked opponents, end of story.

I repeat myself because you ignore what I say.

thegoldlaw

You mean Oklahoma played basically the same schedule as texas did? Minus the fact Texas played the toughest 4 teams in a row, whereas oklahoma had 2, bye and then 1 of the games. Also the fact Oklahoma lost to Texas by 10 shows me texas is the better team and given you dispute this logic I'll use it against you everytime you say USC beats a team and then loses to a junk team. The only lost Texas had was last second on an amazing play by crabtree.

You know most athletes go to the college within their state? There are always going to be exceptions but for the most part they like to stay home due to family and friends. Because of this traveling 2k+ miles to go to a game for a month would suck.

Jason white was the most overhyped POS, which i've said in 3 post before So i dont feel I should have to repeat myself. And you say they didnt rely on the running game? LMFAO tooo Funny.. you ever watch them play without AD. It was like watching the 08 lions.