Mike Vick (American Football Player.)
 

So I hear some rumors floating around about this guy. For those who don't know who he is, he is the football player who got in trouble for dog fighting.

The things i have heard are that he is out of prison now. He has to do 30 days on house arrest. (Basically stuck in your house for 30 days where your not allowed to leave and they put a gps on your leg to find where you are at all times.)

After this house arrest he will be working for a construction company for 10 dollars an hour. (Not to mention 2 years ago this guy was making million a year.)


He will also be working to reach out against dog fighting.


After all of this he is going to try to re-apply for the NFL. Rumor has it that the Cleveland Browns are going to take him. That is'nt really saying anything because the Cleveland Browns would take ANYBODY they just want to win atleast 1 game.

What are your guys and gals thoughts on Mike Vick going back into the football league? Do you think he should be allowed?


I think that he has done his time in prison. He is now doing house arrest. So when all of this gets over with he did his time. So i think since he did do his time and got out of prison on good behavior he should be able to go throw around some footballs.

im a big fan of his work

yeah it's not like he was doing anything wrong in relation to the sport. he was just a dog killing moron. let him tryout like any other athlete.

sport?

football? at least the american version. the one with an oval ball that gets thrown around and refrigerator sized guys try to stop a skinny dude from running across a field.

that's why he's famous and why his association with dog fighting / dead dog disposal got so much media attention.

He served his time (most of it), hasn't started a fuss and hasn't insulted anyone...he seems really apologetic even though I know he really isn't. Let him back

He is an America Football player that is widely known for how fast he can run and his incredible throwing arm. He can throw that ball the whole feild plus some.




I totaly agree. He is doing his construction job. Which is amazing that he is even attempting because it will pay him $10.00 /hr and he was makign millions a year. Also, he served his time in prison and got out on good behavior. All of this by the way does not PARDON what he did, but it does make it look a bit better.






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What kind of press do you think this guy is going to get when he is out working on the construction job?

Ha, where are you from, the South Shore?

I never know what the hell people are thinking with these moral issues. We have prison in this country as a repayment of the social debt you've incured for ****ing up.

The issue people always yammer about is that "these guys are role models" and "what will the children will think?"

1. The problem is that these guys are role models. We shouldn't be working to uphold that.

2. Children screw up far too many things. I bet more lives are ruined because of Children than God, or Satan combined.

3. As previously stated by Mr. Dave, he didn't screw up in Football, and it was only a story because he was a football player. If I start a dog fighting business, no ones going to care when I get arrested except the readers of Dog Fancy.

Question: Wasn't he only a financer, and didn't really engage in the fighting? Thats what I recall anyway.

I heard that he had dogs that were in bad health and he had a fighting pit on his property that was stainded with blood.

well right, but thats what I meant by financing it. Was he present for the fights?

I would think so. I would be.

but you don't know? You started this topic, didn't you?

The news said they did'nt know if he was absent or not when the fights took place. All they knew was that there was dead or wounded dogs and a fighting pit on his property.

Let him come back. It would be a great story and maybe even a movie starring Mark Wahlberg someday.

Did he ever actually get convicted on the dog fighting charges? His stint in jail was for participating in illegal interstate commerce. That said, he deserves to return. It's not the NFL's business, he served his time and dealt with the legal aspects.

*disclaimer* I go to Virginia Tech and worshiped him when he was there. *disclaimer*

Yiou go to V tech? Where you there for that crazy shooting?

Yes

Michael vick also helped kill the dogs....

Point is he wasn't convicted of it.

I vote for the Vikings to sign Favre at QB and sign Vick at wide receiver and play them together.

Donte Stallworth killed a human being and he has a chance to play in the NFL this year

Mike Vick killed dogs, served two years in jail for it, and he still might be disallowed to play this season

I think there may be "morals clauses" in some contracts and if someone breaches their contract by getting convicted of a felony and/or brings negative attention to the sport they can be released.

Michael Vick?...the worst kind of sociopath.
Anyone chicken**** enough to purposely hurt and torture animals shouldn't walk the streets. Too ****ed up in the head to trust with other humans.

Yeah animals are much cuter than humans.

Stallworth ****ing killed a guy, and is walking with 30 days. Thats the point. Vick was never directly found guilty of ever even taking part in any of the 'events', they just happened on his property. Your veiwpoint is clouded with ignorance and propaganda. Please check your facts and try again.

Wrong. Vick admitted in court personally killing by hanging, drowning and electrocution of the dogs that were injured or "under performed".He denied everything until he realized he was caught. He lied to the investigators and got caught perjuring himself, he failed a drug screen while he was out on bond.

Stallworth stopped immediately, called the police and (stupidly) admitted he had been drinking. He accepted responsibility and recognized what he did was wrong and pleaded guilty.The guy is still dead, though.

The commissioner of the NFL wrote about Vick:

"You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's personal conduct policy," Goodell told Vick"
Stallworth will soon hear the same words.

That's a morals clause.

Stallworth won't be playing in the NFL. Same reason.


Neither of these guys should be playing.Neither ever will again.

The point is they should play again. Both of these guys accepted what they did, and are willing to do whatever they can to make it right. I'm not even a Vick fan, in fact I've hated him most of his career, but christ let him come back already. Stallworth is getting off way too easy for his crime. Bottom line, people are way too up in arms about animals, and the legal system is all up on their ****s about it.

I can accept your opinion on that. No problem.

I disagree, though, because I think, even though it's show business, they have acted in an uncivilized and immoral way..both of them...and since it is such a high profile occupation that is based on a GAME that most children play, watch on TV and are familiar with they should be (and are) held to different standards than joe the carpenter.

Kinda like politicians...So what if they cheat on their wives?...
Well, I think if they can't control themselves and lie about it, then they aren't qualified to govern other people and they can't be trusted.

Of course we all fall short, but there has to be some sort of minimum standards upheld by the NFL.If people get the perception that it's a bunch of thugs and gangstas the revenue will decline...and it's all about perception...and money...

I guarantee both will play again. And MV7 was never convicted of dog fighting.

Yes he was. Where are you getting your info? He plead guilty to dog fighting charges in the state of Virginia and in return had the charge of animal cruelty dropped.

Ahhh touche hadn't paid much attention to the state charges, which seemed to go on forever in a day with his attorneys trying to get it done early. Had to plead guilty to one count. Regardless, the time of his "indefinite" suspension was before that conviction.

Ta hell with the nay-sayers. Vick is back. I can't wait to see what hee looks like in his probationary pre-season games. Assuming sometems actually start showing interest in him. He wasn't being looked at last I heard. Anybody know anything?

I watching the Steelers per-season game the other night and they interveiwed Mike Tomlin they asked him if considered picking up Michael Vick, he said they were friends but said no, he didn't complicate things since his own quarter-back had his own troubles.

Michael Vick is signed to the Philadelphia Eagles, with a one year contract. He is to work with animal rights organizations as part of his rehabilitation.

Michael Vick To me personally, is a DECENT football player, I feel like Miami's Pat White is MUCH better than Vick. Pat White really impressed me during his Senior Bowl Performance. I think in a like a year or so with the Phin's he will be much better than Henne or Pennington.

Michael Vick can run with the football but to me, he is like a Darren McFadden always at QB.

Welp, Vick is back in the NFL.. and was putting up MVP type numbers before his injury. He's coming back this week I think, I am pretty excited to see what he does. I became an Atlanta fan when they drafted Vick and always rooted for him. He was always an under rated QB in Atlanta... Everybody was in awe of his skills but he never got credit for being as good as he was because he didn't fit a specific mold for a QB. If Vick would have had better coaching that allowed him to utilize his strengths, he would have been an absolute monster. Instead, Vick got criticized for running too much, and his coaches tried forcing him into a pocket passed, which made no sense at all. As his passing numbers improved, his team got worse. He took Atlanta to the NFC Championship and lost to Philly, and those ATL teams he were on were not very talented at all.

With the whole dog fighting thing... What he did was wrong. I find animal cruelty disgusting, but you have to understand that everyone has different upbringings and cultures. He definitely knew it was wrong, but you become desensitized to the horror of some things because of the situations you are brought up in. He served his time, paid his dues, and I have no problems with Vick now. I root for him every weekend that he plays.

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Mike Vicks paid his time, its all good
let him do what he does best

If I had anything to do with it he wouldn't be allowed to play anymore.

I was pretty embarrassed to call myself an Eagles fan the day they signed him. I really wish Roger Goodell had not let him back into the league even though he is making the Eagles a Super Bowl contender this year.

I know the Mike Vick story is always talked about and stuff, but what he is doing this year is one of the most impressive things I have ever seen in sports. How do you go to prison for 2 years, then come back and even better quarterback? 15TDs and zero turnovers right now. Are you kidding me? That is insane numbers. I can understand lifting in prison and maybe coming back and being great another position, but QUARTERBACK??? He is just playing lights out football right now and it's unbelievable. Eagles murdered the Redskins on Monday night, I haven't seen a massacre like tha tin primetime TV in a long time. This week they got the Giants, this should be a great game.

This is my starting FF QB. Im on his nuts so hard right now I'm considering slitting the throats of pit puppies.

Vick looks GREAT with the Eagles and i believe they will extend his contract.Dogfighting has gone on in america for years,it isnt new,and it hasnt stopped.He did his time,he's living with it and he's playin great.He's a football player,that's how i see him.

I couldn't agree more.