Euro 2012

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

On both these occasions they had far superior players as well,l.

They also in Italia 90 just scraped through against, if memory serves Cameroon & Belgium and in one of those games or maybe the Semi against Germany they only got on the score sheet 'cause Lineker faked a foul to win us a pen!!!

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

^^ So what would you suggest England do for future tournaments then? Would you suggest they approach tournaments with a negative attitude? Wouldn't this just give you more ammunition to criticise them? Our national teams main criticism seems to be a perceived lack of heart and passion but even when we get stuck in and show some commitment we still criticise them, seemingly because they didnt go on to win the whole thing.

Also it's worth keeping in mind that in 120 minutes of football Italy werent good enough to beat us. You can analyse the performance but that is a fact. Any talk from the England camp about how they had the ability to play Italy and win was justified, in my opinion. They only got the job done on spot kicks.

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I don't think you can say Italy weren't good enough to beat us just 'cause they didn't convert the many chances they had. They hit the post at least once, or was it twice, and missed a couple of sitters. They were generally speaking...technically easily 'good enough' to beat us just as Barcelnoa and BM were easily 'good enough' to beat Chelsea. Funny old game as they say!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-25-2012, 04:13 AM

I've decided to take the advice of Flyingpig437 and Goofle11 into the domestic season.

Instead of getting behind my team and hoping that we win promotion again i'm going to get a Swindon Town season ticket, go onto the terraces every week and start chanting 'You're playing at the right level and won't go any higher, you're playing and won't go any higher'.

Seriously, there's nothing more boring than being lectured to about supporting a team by someone who supports some team who wins something almost every year.

I know England have limitations, hoping they play well isn't delusional, that's what real supporters do every week.

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:13 AM

The ****in' bbc are running a ticker across the screen bragging about the size of the audience like it's attributable to them!!!

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I've decided to take the advice of Flyingpig437 and Goofle11 into the domestic season.

Instead of getting behind my team and hoping that we win promotion again i'm going to get a Swindon Town season ticket, go onto the terraces every week and start chanting 'You're playing at the right level and won't go any higher, you're playing and won't go any higher'.

Seriously, there's nothing more boring than being lectured to about supporting a team by someone who supports some team who wins something almost every year.

Look. I'd have loved it if we'd have scraped through although I'd have still said we didn't play well. Just 'cause I think we played **** and usually do doesn't mean I want them to lose or anything. I'm just being honest!

Mojo · 06-25-2012, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingpig437

I don't think you can say Italy weren't good enough to beat us just 'cause they didn't convert the many chances they had.

Um, yes I can. This is what I mean. This is what I meant when I said you can over-analyse. You're thinking outside of the box and thinking in hypotheticals. You're analysing the squads, the strengths, the weaknesses and asking yourself who you think should win when the reality is it just happened, they just met, and in both 90 minutes and 120 minutes of football the Italians, even if they were the better side overall, werent good enough to beat us.

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:21 AM

"They had withstood almost unrelenting pressure and nobody could say the result was unjust. Not when Italy had accumulated 35 shots, compared to England's nine, and greedily kept 64% of possession."

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-25-2012, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingpig437

"They had withstood almost unrelenting pressure and nobody could say the result was unjust. Not when Italy had accumulated 35 shots, compared to England's nine, and greedily kept 64% of possession."

As a stat that just tells me Italy's forwards are 5 times worse than Englands.

Flyingpig437 · 06-25-2012, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Um, yes I can. This is what I mean. This is what I meant when I said you can over-analyse. You're thinking outside of the box and thinking in hypotheticals. You're analysing the squads, the strengths, the weaknesses and asking yourself who you think should win when the reality is it just happened, they just met, and in both 90 minutes and 120 minutes of football the Italians, even if they were the better side overall, werent good enough to beat us.

Technically you right I guess but in a broader sense they were good enough to beat us.

Mojo · 06-25-2012, 04:28 AM

What exactly is the broader sense?

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