InterGender Sports

djchameleon · 10-17-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Deej they have had success in women's competitions. If you want to make a point about success you need to have the women's team play in the same competition.

Also don't move the goalposts. I don't care about wages and that's not your argument.

Also as I mentioned before, maybe you didn't read my post but you and I both don't know what would be the outcome of all female vs all male match because it hasn't been done yet. The only female vs male match that I can think of off the top of my head was that battle of the sexes tennis match that happened in the 70s? I think

I didn't bring up wages to move goal posts. I was just letting you know what I know about the sport. It wasn't me moving goal posts or using it to create a new argument.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

Yes because the Canadian men don't even qualify lol. The US men are more than capable players.I don't really know where else to go with this arguement, there's a reason why sports are seperate. I watch a fair bit of women's football (soccer) and I would hate to see the players either not have a job or just be forced to sit on the bench for a living.

I am challenging that so called reason why sports are separate. Why do they need to be seperate in this day and age. They used to be seperate between the races. Black people have taken over basketball and football for the most part and their size advantages of being physical weren't an issue enough to keep the races seperate so why should that argument work for women?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I like Jansz's point. What sport's would this work in?

I think anything non-contact is perfectly reasonable, but when you get into football/rugby or MMA territory, eh? I mean honestly, if a woman is talented enough to make it onto a pro-male team I think she should have the option, but how realistic is it?

I'd also be interested to see the statistics on the male/female ratios in sports and leagues that do not have restrictions. I know in eSports, female competitors are practically non-existent or form all female teams. Sexism? Perhaps. I'm not fully convinced though.

Why aren't you convinced that it is sexism? Also the only reason why it isn't realistic is because of people's attitude towards seeing men compete with women. It might not be inherently sexism but there is definitely some outdated cave man thinking at play.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

The Men's US Soccer team would beat the Women's team by about 30-0 DJ.

I don't follow Golf enough to know the comparative handicaps for men and women, but it's fair to assume the Men generally hit the ball a lot further, which is a major advantage. As for tennis, I'd guess that pretty much every male pro in the top 200-300 would beat Serena Williams.

No ****ing way with your Serena claim. The entirety of your post is BS.

**Goofle** · 10-17-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

No ****ing way with your Serena claim. The entirety of your post is BS.

I'm assuming she would have to play the full five sets? Also what else was wrong with my post? 30-0 may be over the top, but it would be an absolute annihilation.

DwnWthVwls · 10-17-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Why aren't you convinced that it is sexism? Also the only reason why it isn't realistic is because of people's attitude towards seeing men compete with women. It might not be inherently sexism but there is definitely some outdated cave man thinking at play.

That was eSports specific. Why in a sport where women are welcome to compete vs men and along side them, do they seldom do it, and when they do, it is with other women instead of mixed?

I think the problem starts with women wanting to prove to men that they can out compete them so there is a tendency to bond together instead of dispersing themselves among the majority. Sexism is most likely to blame for this mentality to begin with, but that still doesn't change the fact that when given the choice the majority of women choose to ignore the option. Again, this is strictly from an eSports perspective as idk fuck all about "real" sports.

The Batlord · 10-17-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That was eSports specific. Why in a sport where women are welcome to compete vs men and along side them, do they seldom do it, and when they do, it is with other women instead of mixed?

I think the problem starts with women wanting to prove to men that they can out compete them so there is a tendency to bond together instead of dispersing themselves among the majority. Sexism is most likely to blame for this mentality to begin with, but that still doesn't change the fact that when given the choice the majority of women choose to ignore the option. Again, this is strictly from an eSports perspective as idk fuck all about "real" sports.

I tried finding reputable sources, but I really don't know any of the sites I saw when I Googled "men and women's reaction speeds", but all of the ones I glanced at agreed that women did not have as good reaction speed as men, and I'm sure with any sport that difference would be crippling, and eSports would be no different.

StarCraft players peak around their mid-twenties and then decline shortly afterward, which is an even quicker turnover than tennis, where you can at least make it to thirty before being forced to retire. And much of that is due to reaction speeds deteriorating around that age, and the sites I looked at also suggested that women maintained peak reaction speeds for a shorter period of time than men.