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League Goals for the last 4 seasons;
2009/10 Apps: 32 Goals: 26
2010/11 Apps: 28 Goals: 11
2011/12 Apps: 34 Goals: 27
2012/13 Apps: 17 Goals: 10 (so far. also top in assists)

How can you even argue with that? Do the stats/hard facts above suggest a player who is overated and inconsistent? No it doesn't!
He has games where he isn't in top form. Big deal, he's human. Even then he always gives 100% and his overall consistency is as good, if not better than any other player in the Premier League.

Admit it. You're just a bitter, lemon sucking ABU...

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I can't believe you criticise a player for scoring loads for a few weeks, then non for a month.
Stop being a knob!

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

How is that bollocks? Rooney's goals come in patches for a start, he scores loads for a few weeks then none for a month. Repeat. His career has constantly been like that, shifting between playing well and playing awful and the latter is more frequent.

If Rooney got back to back seasons where he was consistent, in the same sort of form he had in 2009/10, then there would be no doubt he is world class. Van Persie, Messi, Xavi, Ronaldo, you name the truly world class players... They have all been consistently good at the top level. Rooney hasn't.

Rooney's always been a consistent player, it just so happens when he goes through a dry spell in scoring goals, the whole world seems to notice. His game has always been much more than just scoring. Also the Rooney that plays for Utd is a very different player at times than the one in an England shirt, but then again England has a history of great players falling short when playing for the national side.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by right-track

League Goals for the last 4 seasons;
2009/10 Apps: 32 Goals: 26
2010/11 Apps: 28 Goals: 11
2011/12 Apps: 34 Goals: 27
2012/13 Apps: 17 Goals: 10 (so far. also top in assists)

How can you even argue with that? Do the stats/hard facts above suggest a player who is overated and inconsistent? No it doesn't!
He has games where he isn't in top form. Big deal, he's human. Even then he always gives 100% and his overall consistency is as good, if not better than any other player in the Premier League.

Gives 100% effort? Did you not watch the Euros?

2011 his head was in a mess because he's a knob who cheated on his wife. 11 league goals is not good enough for a world class striker. Was Kevin Philips world class when he scored 30 in 2000? I think the fact you're arguing against him being inconsistent but then proceed to post stats where his goal return reads 26, 11, 27, 10 merely proves my point.

Admit it. You're just a bitter, lemon sucking ABU...

Hardly an ABU...

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Those are all in the United end btw. I've seen United play home and away in the league, Champions League and both Cups, not even including games I've not got stubs for like Inter 2-0 in 2009 and Blackburn away where Evra did the Rafa salute and the league was all but won.

ABU

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Rooney's always been a consistent player, it just so happens when he goes through a dry spell in scoring goals, the whole world seems to notice. His game has always been much more than just scoring. Also the Rooney that plays for Utd is a very different player at times than the one in an England shirt, but then again England has a history of great players falling short when playing for the national side.

Rooney offers goals and not much else. He has always been hot and cold. These are not even up for debate.

He's a very good player with consistency problems.

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11 goals in 28 appearances isn't good?

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Wayne Rooney suffers a temporary loss of form, which doesn't reflect his overall ability as a footballer and you're all over him.
Fool.
It seems to me you desperately want him to fail for the thinly veiled reason included in your posts.
Truth is you just don't like him. It has nothing to do with his ability!

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by right-track

11 goals in 28 appearances isn't good?

How many other 'world class' strikers average a goal every 3 games?

Van Persie - no
Falcao - no
Villa - no
Ibrahimovic - no
Cavani - no

Rooney isn't world class.

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So a ratio of almost 1 goal per every 2 games for a footballer who isn't an out and out striker isn't good enough, despite the fact that was his worse return in 4 seasons?

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

Those are all in the United end btw. I've seen United play home and away in the league, Champions League and both Cups, not even including games I've not got stubs for like Inter 2-0 in 2009 and Blackburn away where Evra did the Rafa salute and the league was all but won.

ABU

And you support who now?